Subject: RE: more on Trapwire |
From: "Jay Leiderman" <jay@leidermandevine.com> |
Date: 8/15/12, 21:05 |
To: "'Barrett Brown'" <barriticus@gmail.com> |
No worries. This is a fresh slate here. We have an opportunity to lay a new base of legal protection. Now that the media spotlight is mostly off Anon, perhaps we can encourage folks to be a bit more thoughtful all around, and maybe not break so many laws, or at least not break them in such a reckless manner. One is no good to a movement from inside a cell for many years.
So any thoughts you have about how folks can safely and securely reach out to us are very welcome.
JAY LEIDERMAN
CERTIFIED CRIMINAL LAW SPECIALIST
CALIFORNIA BAR BOARD OF LEGAL SPECIALIZATION
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-----Original Message-----
From: Barrett Brown [mailto:barriticus@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:39 PM
To: Jay Leiderman
Subject: Re: more on Trapwire
Great, I liked working with O'Neill briefly on this, other than my exception to their request that I somehow just "hand" them "right" to defend every single Anon, which Heidi instigated, after which I also got a call from Center for Constitutional Law asking same thing, and apparently they all hate Cohen and he hated all of them. And three of the kids from Anonops were assholes to me. One forgave me profusely later and was mostly just drinking and scared and young-ish, the other is whatever, other is Mercedes, who has recently claimed on her Twitter that she's only Anon I assisted, that I "wanted to go to prison for a book deal" that didn't exist when I was supposed to have said it (to Stanley Cohen!), and several other really terrible things, and in the direction of @YourAnonNews with intent that it be retweeted. I was really hurt by that, even after developing a thicker skin.
Also, apologize for giving you so many complaints, but again, there are few people I'm comfortable talking about some of these things with who is also involved in them, etc. Thanks again. Also we got our Trapwire coverage rolling at NBC, etc.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Jay Leiderman <jay@leidermandevine.com> wrote:
> Hey Barrett;
>
>
>
> Thanks for the kind words. Funny that you bring that up. Grainne
> O’Neill and I are working on trying to set up an NLG adopt-an-Anon
> program where we can get folks the name and number of an attorney
> BEFORE they need one, just in case. I’ve not had the time to sit down
> and figure out how, exactly, we can work that, so any thoughts you may have are welcome and appreciated.
>
>
>
> JAY LEIDERMAN
> CERTIFIED CRIMINAL LAW SPECIALIST
> CALIFORNIA BAR BOARD OF LEGAL SPECIALIZATION
>
> LEIDERMAN DEVINE LLP
> 5740 RALSTON STREET SUITE #300
> VENTURA, CALIFORNIA 93003
>
> TEL: (805) 654 0200 ext.24
> FAX: (805) 654 0280
>
> EMAIL: jay@leidermandevine.com
> WEB: www.leidermandevine.com
>
> FOLLOW US ON TWITTER: @LEIDERMANDEVINE
>
> The information contained in this email is intended for the person or
> entity named above. It may contain information that is privileged,
> confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you
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> delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby
> notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this
> message, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. If you have
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> Thank you.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barrett Brown [mailto:barriticus@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:17 AM
> To: Jay Leiderman
> Subject: more on Trapwire
>
>
>
> Hey, man-
>
>
>
> Just wrote this. Have gotten a couple outlets interested in reviewing
> these accumulated facts, but it's such an uphill battle to get real
> attention to any of these things; HBGary got even the examination it
> did because of the still-novel "TEEN HACKERS BEAT SECURITY COMPANY AND
> ONE OF THEM IS PRETENDING TO BE 16" shit, plus a lot of combined media
> outreach by several people with a lot of experience and contacts.
>
>
>
> I was never that tremendous of a journalist when I still did that
> "full-time," and only sometimes clever as a media critic/political
> humorist/whatever, so it's not a huge thing, objectively, for me to
> say that this is probably the most important thing I've had the
> occasion to write, in terms of what it clarifies and in terms of the
> important information that I've gotten much of from other activists
> with things like Telecomix and Anon. Please do read it and send it to
> anyone else you know who might perhaps be able to make use of the
> links, facts therein. Obviously parts are silly but that's not the
> fault of the people who just spent their day digging up tax filings,
> merger papers, etc. Also, wanted to again just thank you in general
> for the time you've given to all of this, as well as to myself and
> many others; you were probably more personally responsible for
> matching clients with pro bono folks than anyone else in the legal
> community, and in a more just world you'd be getting tremendous recognition for that whether you wanted it or not.
>
>
>
> http://barrettbrown.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-facts-on-cubic-and-trapwi
> re-abraxas.html
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Barrett Brown
>
> 512-560-2302
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Regards,
Barrett Brown
512-560-2302