Re: Seeking comment about TrapWire
Subject: Re: Seeking comment about TrapWire
From: Josh Peterson <josh@dailycaller.com>
Date: 8/15/12, 22:23
To: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>

Alright, sounds good - I'll try him. Thanks for the new info. 

At times, I am surprised that other publications won't pick up these kinds of stories, but I think you may be right in some respect with regard to most journos lacking imagination, or just general disbelief. I think the speed of modern journalism intimidates a lot of them from tackling and unraveling the larger, more in depth and incredibly confusing stories.

I'd love to do more on the Romas/COIN stuff - I'm pretty familiar with the idea/tactic of persona management, although I didn't realize it had a name until recently. I was actually planning on working on some stories about that issue. The implications are incredibly terrifying.

I don't know if you were following the cybersecurity legistation debate over the past couple of months. There was some talk about how regulation was needed to "help" different cyber and critical infrastructure companies compete with one another. I wonder if any of these types of companies were part of the lobbying effort. Thoughts?

I also want to see how far TrapWire goes. This isn't the first type of system of its kind, but these types of stories really do need to be told. Any story in this realm that can expose real threats to our liberty, I'm game.

Has Cubic/Abraxas/TrapWire tried contacting you?

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't have e-mail can give out for them but best thing would be to hit up Jacob Applebaum, who is @ioerror on Twitter. The new information is compiled here  http://barrettbrown.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-facts-on-cubic-and-trapwire-abraxas.html  and here:  http://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Trapwire You scooped NBC on this:  http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/technology/technolog/trapwire-surveillance-really-spying-americans-939948 

Have appreciated your work on this, not a lot of journos are willing to jump in on some of these nat sec stories, not even usually due to pressure but more like some kind of weird lack of imagination or something. Let me know if you'd like to talk by phone or have other written questions. Also, you should take a glance at Romas/COIN, which few bothered to do other than Der Spiegel and Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer:  http://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Cubic 


On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Josh Peterson <josh@dailycaller.com> wrote:
Saw your tweet. I have a separate piece coming out that talks more about the doxing. As to the WikiLeaks bit, I was going off what was in that statement. You said that there is new information?

Do you have an email for a WikiLeaks contact by any chance?


On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Josh Peterson <josh@dailycaller.com> wrote:
Ah, okay. That makes sense. I just know that after the whole SOPA ordeal a bunch of anons retaliated against UFC President Dana White for his organization's support of the bill by trying to dox him, but hit some elderly woman in Las Vegas instead.

Thanks for the clarification.


On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to give you a sense of how this works, this is partial dox for Dan Botsch, president of Abraxas. Just called his residence, wife picked up and at first acknowledged it was the Botsch home and then changed her mind. 

  1.  Daniel R Botsch
  2.  Location: Round Hill, VA
  3.  Summary
  4.  
  5.  Personal Information
  6.  Aliases:     Robert D Botsch
  7.  Robert D Botsch
  8.  Robert D Botsch
  9.  Robert Botsch
  10.  Dan R Botsch
  11.  Daniel Botsch
  12.  Daniel R Botsch
  13.  Dan Robert Botsch
  14.  R D Botsch
  15.  R Daniel Botsch
  16.  Robert Um Botsch
  17.  Age:    49
  18.  Phone:    540-338-3886
  20.  715-2531
  25.  Property
  26.  
  27.  Address History
  28.  10    Addresses
  29.  Found
  30.  #    Address    Last Seen Date
  31.  1    PO BOX 703, ROUND HILL, VA 20142     10/2009
  32.  2    8 E LOUDOUN ST, ROUND HILL, VA 20141     06/2008
  33.  3    1642 E 56TH ST APT 815, CHICAGO, IL 60637     01/2001
  34.  4    46689 CRYSTAL CT, STERLING, VA 20164     12/1999
  35.  5    117 SENECA CHASE CT, STERLING, VA 20164     06/1995
  36.  6    1947 SAGEWOOD LN, RESTON, VA 20191     07/1993
  37.  7    7510 PARKWOOD CT APT, FALLS CHURCH, VA 22042     03/1985
  38.  8    140 BAILEY ST, CANTON, MA 02021     03/1985
  39.  9    PO BOX, ROUND HILL, VA 20142    
  40.  10    3055 SLEEPY HOLLOW RD, FALLS CHURCH, VA 22042    

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Likely that was the reason. Doxing is very surefire when you start with enough data on the subjects, and when you have people who know what they're doing, both of which is the case on this one. I'm overseeing the doxing directly and will be verifying the info in same fashion as I did when I was a journalist. Every war brings collateral damage; my grandfather bombed entire towns in Germany to help defeat totalitarianism, so I'm not too bothered by someone's aunt or son having their name be written down on the internet in relation to some relative I'm targeting. The intelligence contractors are in many ways above the law, as the HBGary incident demonstrated, being state collaborators in the process towards covert governmental pseudo-omnipotence. Having had a chance to see the mentality by which these people operate, I know that appeals to liberty don't quite cut it; only to the extent that their own lives are disrupted will such people refrain from moving the process forward in ways that will be near impossible to roll back.


On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Josh Peterson <josh@dailycaller.com> wrote:
I know in the past "doxing" has yielded results that has created a lot of collateral damage. Is there any way to verify the personal info gathered during the dox? Is that why the page was scrubbed? So as to cover their tracks?


On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Should note that we've just decided to intensely "dox" the execs at Abraxas Apps - compile great amount of  personal information - and publish it at Echelon2.org and elsewhere. This is a tactic that some of us have pursued before against firms that strip the public of their privacy with support from the state, and of course we have a number of experienced doxers, some with very unusual resources. Presumably the firm was worried over this exact thing, as they tried to scrub their web page of this:  http://imgur.com/8KI00


On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Josh Peterson <josh@dailycaller.com> wrote:
Great, thanks, Barrett.


On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Indeed, this is one of those issues that we always jump on - anything having to do with mass surveillance and data-mining. Half of the OpTrapWire press release consists of some material I wrote for infographics/digital posters, and we've been working directly with three different servers on this (which is a lot; this is shaping up to be one of the largest operations in a while, not just in terms of people involved but in how competent and hard-working many of them are). Other than this, we usually only work with Anon on our area of interest as shown at out echelon2.org wiki, plus a couple of issues, such as Bahrain, that are directly connected to them. Right now, aside from the ongoing attacks on Abraxas assets, there's a great deal of research and dissemination going on; I've been disappointed by the msm's inevitable failure to give this due attention. Beyond just what this system is capable of doing, one has to see it in the context of more widespread and sophisticated technologies that have been put in place over the last several years. The totality of such things is in some ways beyond what Orwell could have imagined, as is the case with persona management and Romas/COIN, for instance. Meanwhile, the American citizenry needs to stop neglecting its duties to ensure that future generations don't grow up in a pseudo-omnipotent state in which individual rights are trampled on covertly as well as overtly.


On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Josh Peterson <josh@dailycaller.com> wrote:
Hey Barrett,

Hope you're well. Can you confirm Project PM's involvement in Anonymous Operation TrapWire?

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Mahalo,


Josh Peterson

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Regards,

Barrett Brown
512-560-2302



--

Mahalo,


Josh Peterson

Tech Editor

The Daily Caller

1050 17th St. NW- STE 900

Washington, DC 20036

Office:   202.463.5082

Cell:      612.237.7421

Email:   josh@dailycaller.com

Twitter: @jdpeterson

 





--
Regards,

Barrett Brown
512-560-2302



--
Regards,

Barrett Brown
512-560-2302



--

Mahalo,


Josh Peterson

Tech Editor

The Daily Caller

1050 17th St. NW- STE 900

Washington, DC 20036

Office:   202.463.5082

Cell:      612.237.7421

Email:   josh@dailycaller.com

Twitter: @jdpeterson

 





--

Mahalo,


Josh Peterson

Tech Editor

The Daily Caller

1050 17th St. NW- STE 900

Washington, DC 20036

Office:   202.463.5082

Cell:      612.237.7421

Email:   josh@dailycaller.com

Twitter: @jdpeterson

 





--
Regards,

Barrett Brown
512-560-2302



--

Mahalo,


Josh Peterson

Tech Editor

The Daily Caller

1050 17th St. NW- STE 900

Washington, DC 20036

Office:   202.463.5082

Cell:      612.237.7421

Email:   josh@dailycaller.com

Twitter: @jdpeterson

 


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