me: you're making the right decision me: Steam sale, I presume? Andrew: fucking $11 for the ultimate edition Andrew: all expansion packs Andrew: plus 2 extra dlcs me: jesus me: I bought civ4 me: for the 5th time Andrew: no v? me: I hear mixed things me: I also see Dave playing it constantly me: I don't know what to think Andrew: its great Andrew: you will love it Andrew: i promise Andrew: especially with the new expansion Andrew: its simple, but ery elegantly designed Andrew: and combat is loads better with hexes me: you have it? Andrew: indeed Andrew: it is a bit machine taxing me: and you like it better than 4? Andrew: i dont remember 4, 3, 2, or 1 well enough to tell you what is different specifically Andrew: but v is loads better in the things is dramatically changed Andrew: eg the hexes me: no religion, though me: look, I'm troubled by the reviews Andrew: no, you have a general perks screen instead Andrew: but seriously, religion was somethign oyu changed or thought about once a year Andrew: this si worse but not that much worse Andrew: the reviews were from hardcore fans who didnt want to give it a chance Andrew: its still civ me: I'm a hardcore fan me: how dare you, sir Andrew: that sentence was qualified Andrew: you're going to give it a chance, after all me: also, not sure my graphics card is going to handle it Andrew: that may be the case