Subject: RE:
From: Ryan Gallagher <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com>
Date: 7/9/12, 16:37
To: <barriticus@gmail.com>

Thanks for the link. I've been looking through some of it but so far not found much of interest. What about you?


> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 17:04:22 -0500
> Subject: Re:
> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
>
> A group I'm working with have set up most of the Innodata release at
> http://par-anoia.net/innodata/browse/. Excel docs will be added later.
> There's also a torrent but it's not seeding much yet.
>
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, that's where I pulled the one I gave you. Also, wanted to make
> > sure you saw this, which in addition to having relevance to the
> > Raytheon project also speaks to the central concern that I've had
> > since early last year - more "intelligent" rendering of
> > disinformation.
> > http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/fog-computing/all/
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> > <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hmm, looks potentially quite interesting. Thanks for letting me know. I
> >> can't find much about the mentioned Innodata subsidiary "Information Analyst
> >> Company" or "Information Analyst Corporation" on the Internet... don't have
> >> time to trawl through the files right now, but note a few more docs are
> >> scanned up here: http://imgur.com/a/L9fEQ/all#0
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:26:58 -0500
> >>
> >>> Subject: Re:
> >>> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>>
> >>> Ryan-
> >>>
> >>> Was just alerted to this by someone close to the team that acquired
> >>> it; seems to be massive haul of e-mails and other data from Innodata,
> >>> with mentions of a project the firm is doing with some connection to
> >>> the FSB (as indicated in this image of one of the e-mails:
> >>> http://i.imgur.com/gLoby.jpg).
> >>>
> >>> Scroll down on this page for links to the archives posted thus far:
> >>> http://www.cyberguerrilla.org/?p=6474
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > That's definitely something worth keeping in mind, thanks. What I'll do
> >>> > is
> >>> > take the thing forward with the interested parties in the UK, and if I
> >>> > hit
> >>> > any more brick walls with it I'll get back to you about Businessweek. We
> >>> > certainly need more people in the media who have an understanding of
> >>> > these
> >>> > issues. It's a real problem that too many editors -- specifically at
> >>> > mainstream publications -- seem out of touch when it comes to dealing
> >>> > with
> >>> > this stuff...
> >>> >
> >>> > Ryan
> >>> > ________________________________
> >>> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 02:08:07 -0500
> >>> >
> >>> >> Subject: Re:
> >>> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Just occurred to me that Businessweek might be another pub in U.S.
> >>> >> that you should consider approaching on this. You may recall that
> >>> >> they've pursued these issues before and did the piece on Endgame
> >>> >> Systems, and the fact that they're having someone like me participate
> >>> >> in this event should give you a sense of how they do things. I spoke
> >>> >> to their chief content fellow Norm Pearlstine the other day for a sort
> >>> >> of pre-interview, and he's very cognizant of the problems coming out
> >>> >> of the sector. Let me know if you'd like his e-mail address.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> > Sounds good. I'll keep an eye out for coverage of the roundtable.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > The Raytheon story has been a difficult one. The legal issues around
> >>> >> > the
> >>> >> > material, principally copyright related, have been a severe headache
> >>> >> > to
> >>> >> > overcome. I'm still actively pursuing it and am actually in the
> >>> >> > process
> >>> >> > of
> >>> >> > restructuring the thing entirely for UK publications (I have at least
> >>> >> > one
> >>> >> > interested) ... but I was forced to put it aside for a bit as I'm up
> >>> >> > to
> >>> >> > my
> >>> >> > eyes in other deadlines. I assure you that I've not forgotten about
> >>> >> > it,
> >>> >> > though, and I am still 100% committed to getting the thing out asap
> >>> >> > because
> >>> >> > it's important. I'll keep you posted.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > ________________________________
> >>> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 17:28:51 -0500
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >>> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> I'm fine, the wiki is back up and I'm going to New York in a week to
> >>> >> >> participate in Bloomberg/Businessweek roundtable on security, which
> >>> >> >> will be covered in a couple of their outlets, so presumably will
> >>> >> >> have
> >>> >> >> an opportunity to bring more attention to some of these issues.
> >>> >> >> Manuscript is finished from my end, waiting to see what the editing
> >>> >> >> process will be. Trying to decide what to do next. Any news on the
> >>> >> >> Raytheon story?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> >> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> > Thanks for that, Barrett. I stumbled across the Bugged Planet wiki
> >>> >> >> > myself a
> >>> >> >> > while back -- it is certainly one of the most useful resources out
> >>> >> >> > there.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > How's things with you right now anyway? Are you still working on
> >>> >> >> > that
> >>> >> >> > book?
> >>> >> >> > Hope all's well.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Ryan
> >>> >> >> > ________________________________
> >>> >> >> >> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 06:48:12 -0500
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >>> >> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Ryan-
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Someone just sent me this wiki; seems to be a much better
> >>> >> >> >> resource
> >>> >> >> >> at
> >>> >> >> >> this point than BlueCabinet, and perhaps you'll find it useful.
> >>> >> >> >> http://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=Main_Page
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Barrett Brown
> >>> >> >> >> <barriticus@gmail.com>
> >>> >> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> > While I'm thinking about it, here's something that I never
> >>> >> >> >> > noticed
> >>> >> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> >> > first time around and which concerns some sort of Twitter
> >>> >> >> >> > project
> >>> >> >> >> > proposed by another firm:
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > http://hbgary.par-anoia.net/ted/messages/98085528e8ed2d4c089995f342de818bc5270081_html.html
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> >> >> >> > <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I'm pretty convinced there are additional nuggets to be
> >>> >> >> >> >> found
> >>> >> >> >> >> also. I
> >>> >> >> >> >> think what I'll do is allocate one day soon to sit and do some
> >>> >> >> >> >> searching. It
> >>> >> >> >> >> seems impossible to me that, in all those emails, that are not
> >>> >> >> >> >> further
> >>> >> >> >> >> revelations that are yet to come out....
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> Ryan
> >>> >> >> >> >> ________________________________
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:05:16 -0500
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> Subject: Re:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> >>> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> Hi, Ryan-
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> Yes, the network on which Echelon2.org is now hosted, Voxanon
> >>> >> >> >> >>> which
> >>> >> >> >> >>> hosts an increasingly influential IRC network, has been under
> >>> >> >> >> >>> pretty
> >>> >> >> >> >>> intense attack by unknown parties over the past couple of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> days
> >>> >> >> >> >>> in
> >>> >> >> >> >>> particular. We just moved the server there a week ago, but
> >>> >> >> >> >>> unsure
> >>> >> >> >> >>> if
> >>> >> >> >> >>> this is related or not, as there are any number of possible
> >>> >> >> >> >>> motives,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> some petty and/or "personality oriented," that could explain
> >>> >> >> >> >>> such
> >>> >> >> >> >>> an
> >>> >> >> >> >>> attack. Hopefully whatever's going on will be "resolved"
> >>> >> >> >> >>> soon.
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> As for the HBGary e-mails, I've rooted through them via a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> process
> >>> >> >> >> >>> that's necessarily somewhat haphazard, pursuing keywords
> >>> >> >> >> >>> (capabilities, names of individuals or firms, etc) that I or
> >>> >> >> >> >>> others
> >>> >> >> >> >>> have come across somewhat randomly (in most cases), so
> >>> >> >> >> >>> neither I
> >>> >> >> >> >>> nor
> >>> >> >> >> >>> the various people who have volunteered for Project PM can
> >>> >> >> >> >>> really
> >>> >> >> >> >>> claim to have gone through them extensively. As for there
> >>> >> >> >> >>> being
> >>> >> >> >> >>> additional nuggets to be found, I am absolutely convinced
> >>> >> >> >> >>> that
> >>> >> >> >> >>> there
> >>> >> >> >> >>> are. No single party has conducted anything close to a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> comprehensive
> >>> >> >> >> >>> examination of the contents, for instance. And just recently,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> Forbes
> >>> >> >> >> >>> blogger I sometimes discuss these issues with, Sean Lawson,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> used
> >>> >> >> >> >>> the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> e-mails to glean info on an association which had provided a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> "letter
> >>> >> >> >> >>> of support" to relevant Congressional committee on CISPA, and
> >>> >> >> >> >>> which
> >>> >> >> >> >>> turned out to not really exist in any real form. It's all
> >>> >> >> >> >>> just a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> matter of either getting lucky, having an idea of what to
> >>> >> >> >> >>> look
> >>> >> >> >> >>> for,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> or
> >>> >> >> >> >>> going through them in some more formal manner than what was
> >>> >> >> >> >>> done
> >>> >> >> >> >>> via
> >>> >> >> >> >>> Anonymous/Project PM last year.
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> >> >> >> >>> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > Hey Barrett,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > Thanks for sending this informative info & sorry for the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > delayed
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > response.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > I've been offline for a few days and have been dealing with
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > an
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > email
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > backlog
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > today. I was actually thinking about the HBGary emails last
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > week.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > How
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > extensively have you searched through them? I'm wondering
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > if
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > there
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > are
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > still
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > more nuggets in there waiting to be found...
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > FYI, Project PM appears to currently be offline -- I'm
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > getting
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > CloudFlare
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > page.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > Ryan
> >>> >> >> >> >>> > ________________________________
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 01:31:29 -0500
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Subject: Re:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Ryan-
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> A couple things:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Wanted to make sure you're aware of Telecomix's Blue
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Cabinet
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> wiki,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> on
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> which is compiled a great deal of info on dozens of firms
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> in
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> U.S.,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> U.K., and Europe that are known to provide various
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> surveillance-oriented capabilities to governments (and
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> dictatorships,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> in some cases). I don't know how useful this might be for
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> you
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> in
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> future, but it could definitely serve as a resource at
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> least
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> in
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> terms
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> of a jumping-off point. Here's a link to the main page,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> which
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> lists
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> all of the firms they've collected info on:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> http://werebuild.telecomix.org/wiki/Blue_cabinet
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> One other thing. Have been going over our own Project PM
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> wiki
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> fix
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> it up a bit and add new content and came across something
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> I'd
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> forgotten about: a discussion between Aaron Barr of HBGary
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> and
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Tim
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Reisen of Archimedes Global and Tim Clair of TASC about a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> market
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> survey, presumably put out by a U.S. entity, in reference
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> "misattributable marketing services," as they call it in
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> e-mail
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> exchange. The source of this exchange is the HBGary
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> e-mails
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> and
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> entire exchange is reproduced on our page here:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Misattributable_marketing_services
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Based on the self-explanatory moniker as well as the fact
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> that
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> those
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> involved in the e-mail exchange were also working on a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> recompete
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> bid
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> for Romas/COIN, which itself includes some large and
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> mysterious
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> marketing component that clearly entails hiding the source
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> certain
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> forms of output, it's not difficult to get a general sense
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> what
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> this capability refers to. It's certainly interesting that
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> one
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> participants ask if AOL has such a thing. It's also
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> possible
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> that
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> some
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> clues as to its potential/desirability might be gleaned
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> from
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> another
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> discussion between Barr and Riesen that I've listed on the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> bottom
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> our page on Archimedes Global, here:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Archimedes_Global
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> At any rate, just wanted to make sure you were aware of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> clues
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> we've found on this. Certainly methodologies by which to
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> hide
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> true
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> source of activity of various kinds are of great interest
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> number
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> of agencies and private contractors at this point, and I
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> think
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> it's
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> likely that some of the more unfortunate pursuits coming
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> out
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> that
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> world in the next ten years will be dependent on such
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> things
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> as
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> this,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> so it might be something to look out for.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > Good grief, that's worrying. Some of these congressmen
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > are
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > crackpots
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > highest order... I doubt the amendment they're proposing
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > will
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > make it
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > into
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > law, but the very fact that there are people in
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > positions
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > influence
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > pushing for these sorts of measures is bad enough in
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > itself.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > ________________________________
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:03:26 -0500
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Also:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > I have a few ideas and I know some good editors who
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > I'm
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > hopeful
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > will
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > show
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > some spine and step up to the plate. There is a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > substantial
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > public
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > interest
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > in publishing... But the fact we are dealing with one
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > world's
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > largest
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > defense firms doesn't help -- especially not in the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > States.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > It's
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > been
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > quite
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > an eye-opener, let me tell you. The chilling effect
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > is
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > quite
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > extraordinary
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > and deeply concerning.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > Anyway, fingers crossed I'll get something worked
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > out.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > Ryan
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > ________________________________
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 19:11:53 -0500
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I guess I'm not really surprised. Although a very
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> strong
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> precedent
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> has
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> been established by virtue of the widespread
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> publication
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> materials emanating from the HBGary grab, to say
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> nothing
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> everything
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Wikileaks has done with its partner publications,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> few
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> outlets
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> are
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> willing to take risks on these things. I'm sorry
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> that
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> you're
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> having
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> difficulty with this, but hopefully you'll have
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> better
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> luck
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> elsewhere.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> In such a case as I can of any further help, let me
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> know.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Barrett,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Apologies for the lengthy delay with this Raytheon
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > piece.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > The
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > thing
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > was
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > written weeks ago but has been hindered by all
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > kinds
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > editorial
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrangling
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > and now legal issues. I didn't realize the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > severity
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > of
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > copyright
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > implications and I've been held up significantly
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > by
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > fact
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > that
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Raytheon
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > does not want these videos in the public domain.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > I've concluded tonight that a fairly drastic
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > solution
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > is
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > required:
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > I'm
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > going
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > to have to move the story from the States to a
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > publisher
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > in
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > UK.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Tomorrow
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > I'm going to send a few emails. I'll keep you
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > updated.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Again, sorry for the delay. I assure you I'm doing
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > all I
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > can.
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Hope all's well with you,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Ryan
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Regards,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> 940-735-9748
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Regards,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 940-735-9748
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Regards,
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Barrett Brown
> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> 940-735-9748
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> --
> >>> >> >> >> >>> Regards,
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>> Barrett Brown
> >>> >> >> >> >>> 940-735-9748
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > --
> >>> >> >> >> > Regards,
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > Barrett Brown
> >>> >> >> >> > 940-735-9748
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> Regards,
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >>> >> >> >> 940-735-9748
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> Regards,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >>> >> >> 512-560-2302
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Regards,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Barrett Brown
> >>> >> 512-560-2302
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Barrett Brown
> >>> 512-560-2302
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Barrett Brown
> > 512-560-2302
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Barrett Brown
> 512-560-2302