Yes, that's where I pulled the one I gave you. Also, wanted to make
sure you saw this, which in addition to having relevance to the
Raytheon project also speaks to the central concern that I've had
since early last year - more "intelligent" rendering of
disinformation.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/fog-computing/all/

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hmm, looks potentially quite interesting. Thanks for letting me know. I
can't find much about the mentioned Innodata subsidiary "Information Analyst
Company" or "Information Analyst Corporation" on the Internet... don't have
time to trawl through the files right now, but note a few more docs are
scanned up here: http://imgur.com/a/L9fEQ/all#0

________________________________

Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:26:58 -0500

Subject: Re:
From: barriticus@gmail.com
To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com

Ryan-

Was just alerted to this by someone close to the team that acquired
it; seems to be massive haul of e-mails and other data from Innodata,
with mentions of a project the firm is doing with some connection to
the FSB (as indicated in this image of one of the e-mails:
http://i.imgur.com/gLoby.jpg).

Scroll down on this page for links to the archives posted thus far:
http://www.cyberguerrilla.org/?p=6474

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:

That's definitely something worth keeping in mind, thanks. What I'll do
is
take the thing forward with the interested parties in the UK, and if I
hit
any more brick walls with it I'll get back to you about Businessweek. We
certainly need more people in the media who have an understanding of
these
issues. It's a real problem that too many editors -- specifically at
mainstream publications -- seem out of touch when it comes to dealing
with
this stuff...

Ryan
________________________________

Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 02:08:07 -0500

Subject: Re:
From: barriticus@gmail.com
To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com

Just occurred to me that Businessweek might be another pub in U.S.
that you should consider approaching on this. You may recall that
they've pursued these issues before and did the piece on Endgame
Systems, and the fact that they're having someone like me participate
in this event should give you a sense of how they do things. I spoke
to their chief content fellow Norm Pearlstine the other day for a sort
of pre-interview, and he's very cognizant of the problems coming out
of the sector. Let me know if you'd like his e-mail address.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:

Sounds good. I'll keep an eye out for coverage of the roundtable.

The Raytheon story has been a difficult one. The legal issues around
the
material, principally copyright related, have been a severe headache
to
overcome. I'm still actively pursuing it and am actually in the
process
of
restructuring the thing entirely for UK publications (I have at least
one
interested) ... but I was forced to put it aside for a bit as I'm up
to
my
eyes in other deadlines. I assure you that I've not forgotten about
it,
though, and I am still 100% committed to getting the thing out asap
because
it's important. I'll keep you posted.

________________________________

Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 17:28:51 -0500

Subject: Re:
From: barriticus@gmail.com
To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com

I'm fine, the wiki is back up and I'm going to New York in a week to
participate in Bloomberg/Businessweek roundtable on security, which
will be covered in a couple of their outlets, so presumably will
have
an opportunity to bring more attention to some of these issues.
Manuscript is finished from my end, waiting to see what the editing
process will be. Trying to decide what to do next. Any news on the
Raytheon story?

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for that, Barrett. I stumbled across the Bugged Planet wiki
myself a
while back -- it is certainly one of the most useful resources out
there.

How's things with you right now anyway? Are you still working on
that
book?
Hope all's well.

Ryan
________________________________

Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 06:48:12 -0500

Subject: Re:
From: barriticus@gmail.com
To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com

Ryan-

Someone just sent me this wiki; seems to be a much better
resource
at
this point than BlueCabinet, and perhaps you'll find it useful.
http://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=Main_Page

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Barrett Brown
<barriticus@gmail.com>
wrote:

While I'm thinking about it, here's something that I never
noticed
the
first time around and which concerns some sort of Twitter
project
proposed by another firm:




http://hbgary.par-anoia.net/ted/messages/98085528e8ed2d4c089995f342de818bc5270081_html.html


On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:

Yeah, I'm pretty convinced there are additional nuggets to be
found
also. I
think what I'll do is allocate one day soon to sit and do some
searching. It
seems impossible to me that, in all those emails, that are not
further
revelations that are yet to come out....

Ryan
________________________________

Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:05:16 -0500

Subject: Re:
From: barriticus@gmail.com
To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com

Hi, Ryan-

Yes, the network on which Echelon2.org is now hosted, Voxanon
which
hosts an increasingly influential IRC network, has been under
pretty
intense attack by unknown parties over the past couple of
days
in
particular. We just moved the server there a week ago, but
unsure
if
this is related or not, as there are any number of possible
motives,
some petty and/or "personality oriented," that could explain
such
an
attack. Hopefully whatever's going on will be "resolved"
soon.

As for the HBGary e-mails, I've rooted through them via a
process
that's necessarily somewhat haphazard, pursuing keywords
(capabilities, names of individuals or firms, etc) that I or
others
have come across somewhat randomly (in most cases), so
neither I
nor
the various people who have volunteered for Project PM can
really
claim to have gone through them extensively. As for there
being
additional nuggets to be found, I am absolutely convinced
that
there
are. No single party has conducted anything close to a
comprehensive
examination of the contents, for instance. And just recently,
a
Forbes
blogger I sometimes discuss these issues with, Sean Lawson,
used
the
e-mails to glean info on an association which had provided a
"letter
of support" to relevant Congressional committee on CISPA, and
which
turned out to not really exist in any real form. It's all
just a
matter of either getting lucky, having an idea of what to
look
for,
or
going through them in some more formal manner than what was
done
via
Anonymous/Project PM last year.


On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hey Barrett,

Thanks for sending this informative info & sorry for the
delayed
response.
I've been offline for a few days and have been dealing with
an
email
backlog
today. I was actually thinking about the HBGary emails last
week.
How
extensively have you searched through them? I'm wondering
if
there
are
still
more nuggets in there waiting to be found...

FYI, Project PM appears to currently be offline -- I'm
getting
a
CloudFlare
page.

Ryan
________________________________

Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 01:31:29 -0500

Subject: Re:
From: barriticus@gmail.com
To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com

Ryan-

A couple things:

Wanted to make sure you're aware of Telecomix's Blue
Cabinet
wiki,
on
which is compiled a great deal of info on dozens of firms
in
U.S.,
U.K., and Europe that are known to provide various
surveillance-oriented capabilities to governments (and
dictatorships,
in some cases). I don't know how useful this might be for
you
in
the
future, but it could definitely serve as a resource at
least
in
terms
of a jumping-off point. Here's a link to the main page,
which
lists
all of the firms they've collected info on:

http://werebuild.telecomix.org/wiki/Blue_cabinet

One other thing. Have been going over our own Project PM
wiki
to
fix
it up a bit and add new content and came across something
I'd
forgotten about: a discussion between Aaron Barr of HBGary
and
Tim
Reisen of Archimedes Global and Tim Clair of TASC about a
market
survey, presumably put out by a U.S. entity, in reference
to
"misattributable marketing services," as they call it in
the
e-mail
exchange. The source of this exchange is the HBGary
e-mails
and
the
entire exchange is reproduced on our page here:




https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Misattributable_marketing_services

Based on the self-explanatory moniker as well as the fact
that
those
involved in the e-mail exchange were also working on a
recompete
bid
for Romas/COIN, which itself includes some large and
mysterious
marketing component that clearly entails hiding the source
of
certain
forms of output, it's not difficult to get a general sense
of
what
this capability refers to. It's certainly interesting that
one
of
the
participants ask if AOL has such a thing. It's also
possible
that
some
clues as to its potential/desirability might be gleaned
from
another
discussion between Barr and Riesen that I've listed on the
bottom
of
our page on Archimedes Global, here:

https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Archimedes_Global

At any rate, just wanted to make sure you were aware of
the
clues
we've found on this. Certainly methodologies by which to
hide
the
true
source of activity of various kinds are of great interest
to
a
number
of agencies and private contractors at this point, and I
think
it's
likely that some of the more unfortunate pursuits coming
out
of
that
world in the next ten years will be dependent on such
things
as
this,
so it might be something to look out for.

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:

Good grief, that's worrying. Some of these congressmen
are
crackpots
of
the
highest order... I doubt the amendment they're proposing
will
make it
into
law, but the very fact that there are people in
positions
of
influence
pushing for these sorts of measures is bad enough in
itself.

________________________________

Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:03:26 -0500

Subject: Re:
From: barriticus@gmail.com
To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com

Also:






http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:

I have a few ideas and I know some good editors who
I'm
hopeful
will
show
some spine and step up to the plate. There is a
substantial
public
interest
in publishing... But the fact we are dealing with one
of
the
world's
largest
defense firms doesn't help -- especially not in the
States.
It's
been
quite
an eye-opener, let me tell you. The chilling effect
is
quite
extraordinary
and deeply concerning.

Anyway, fingers crossed I'll get something worked
out.

Ryan
________________________________

Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 19:11:53 -0500
Subject: Re:
From: barriticus@gmail.com
To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com

I guess I'm not really surprised. Although a very
strong
precedent
has
been established by virtue of the widespread
publication
of
the
materials emanating from the HBGary grab, to say
nothing
of
everything
Wikileaks has done with its partner publications,
few
outlets
are
willing to take risks on these things. I'm sorry
that
you're
having
difficulty with this, but hopefully you'll have
better
luck
elsewhere.
In such a case as I can of any further help, let me
know.

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:

Barrett,

Apologies for the lengthy delay with this Raytheon
piece.
The
thing
was
written weeks ago but has been hindered by all
kinds
of
editorial
wrangling
and now legal issues. I didn't realize the
severity
of
the
copyright
implications and I've been held up significantly
by
the
fact
that
Raytheon
does not want these videos in the public domain.

I've concluded tonight that a fairly drastic
solution
is
required:
I'm
going
to have to move the story from the States to a
publisher
in
the
UK.
Tomorrow
I'm going to send a few emails. I'll keep you
updated.

Again, sorry for the delay. I assure you I'm doing
all I
can.

Hope all's well with you,

Ryan

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940-735-9748

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940-735-9748

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512-560-2302

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512-560-2302

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Barrett Brown
512-560-2302