> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:26:58 -0500
> Subject: Re:
> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
>
> Ryan-
>
> Was just alerted to this by someone close to the team that acquired
> it; seems to be massive haul of e-mails and other data from Innodata,
> with mentions of a project the firm is doing with some connection to
> the FSB (as indicated in this image of one of the e-mails:
> http://i.imgur.com/gLoby.jpg).
>
> Scroll down on this page for links to the archives posted thus far:
> http://www.cyberguerrilla.org/?p=6474
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Ryan Gallagher
> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > That's definitely something worth keeping in mind, thanks. What I'll do is
> > take the thing forward with the interested parties in the UK, and if I hit
> > any more brick walls with it I'll get back to you about Businessweek. We
> > certainly need more people in the media who have an understanding of these
> > issues. It's a real problem that too many editors -- specifically at
> > mainstream publications -- seem out of touch when it comes to dealing with
> > this stuff...
> >
> > Ryan
> > ________________________________
> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 02:08:07 -0500
> >
> >> Subject: Re:
> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>
> >> Just occurred to me that Businessweek might be another pub in U.S.
> >> that you should consider approaching on this. You may recall that
> >> they've pursued these issues before and did the piece on Endgame
> >> Systems, and the fact that they're having someone like me participate
> >> in this event should give you a sense of how they do things. I spoke
> >> to their chief content fellow Norm Pearlstine the other day for a sort
> >> of pre-interview, and he's very cognizant of the problems coming out
> >> of the sector. Let me know if you'd like his e-mail address.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Sounds good. I'll keep an eye out for coverage of the roundtable.
> >> >
> >> > The Raytheon story has been a difficult one. The legal issues around the
> >> > material, principally copyright related, have been a severe headache to
> >> > overcome. I'm still actively pursuing it and am actually in the process
> >> > of
> >> > restructuring the thing entirely for UK publications (I have at least
> >> > one
> >> > interested) ... but I was forced to put it aside for a bit as I'm up to
> >> > my
> >> > eyes in other deadlines. I assure you that I've not forgotten about it,
> >> > though, and I am still 100% committed to getting the thing out asap
> >> > because
> >> > it's important. I'll keep you posted.
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 17:28:51 -0500
> >> >
> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm fine, the wiki is back up and I'm going to New York in a week to
> >> >> participate in Bloomberg/Businessweek roundtable on security, which
> >> >> will be covered in a couple of their outlets, so presumably will have
> >> >> an opportunity to bring more attention to some of these issues.
> >> >> Manuscript is finished from my end, waiting to see what the editing
> >> >> process will be. Trying to decide what to do next. Any news on the
> >> >> Raytheon story?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Thanks for that, Barrett. I stumbled across the Bugged Planet wiki
> >> >> > myself a
> >> >> > while back -- it is certainly one of the most useful resources out
> >> >> > there.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How's things with you right now anyway? Are you still working on that
> >> >> > book?
> >> >> > Hope all's well.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ryan
> >> >> > ________________________________
> >> >> >> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 06:48:12 -0500
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ryan-
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Someone just sent me this wiki; seems to be a much better resource
> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >> this point than BlueCabinet, and perhaps you'll find it useful.
> >> >> >> http://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=Main_Page
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Barrett Brown
> >> >> >> <barriticus@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > While I'm thinking about it, here's something that I never noticed
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > first time around and which concerns some sort of Twitter project
> >> >> >> > proposed by another firm:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > http://hbgary.par-anoia.net/ted/messages/98085528e8ed2d4c089995f342de818bc5270081_html.html
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Ryan Gallagher
> >> >> >> > <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I'm pretty convinced there are additional nuggets to be
> >> >> >> >> found
> >> >> >> >> also. I
> >> >> >> >> think what I'll do is allocate one day soon to sit and do some
> >> >> >> >> searching. It
> >> >> >> >> seems impossible to me that, in all those emails, that are not
> >> >> >> >> further
> >> >> >> >> revelations that are yet to come out....
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Ryan
> >> >> >> >> ________________________________
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:05:16 -0500
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> Subject: Re:
> >> >> >> >>> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >> >> >> >>> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Hi, Ryan-
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Yes, the network on which Echelon2.org is now hosted, Voxanon
> >> >> >> >>> which
> >> >> >> >>> hosts an increasingly influential IRC network, has been under
> >> >> >> >>> pretty
> >> >> >> >>> intense attack by unknown parties over the past couple of days
> >> >> >> >>> in
> >> >> >> >>> particular. We just moved the server there a week ago, but
> >> >> >> >>> unsure
> >> >> >> >>> if
> >> >> >> >>> this is related or not, as there are any number of possible
> >> >> >> >>> motives,
> >> >> >> >>> some petty and/or "personality oriented," that could explain
> >> >> >> >>> such
> >> >> >> >>> an
> >> >> >> >>> attack. Hopefully whatever's going on will be "resolved" soon.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> As for the HBGary e-mails, I've rooted through them via a
> >> >> >> >>> process
> >> >> >> >>> that's necessarily somewhat haphazard, pursuing keywords
> >> >> >> >>> (capabilities, names of individuals or firms, etc) that I or
> >> >> >> >>> others
> >> >> >> >>> have come across somewhat randomly (in most cases), so neither I
> >> >> >> >>> nor
> >> >> >> >>> the various people who have volunteered for Project PM can
> >> >> >> >>> really
> >> >> >> >>> claim to have gone through them extensively. As for there being
> >> >> >> >>> additional nuggets to be found, I am absolutely convinced that
> >> >> >> >>> there
> >> >> >> >>> are. No single party has conducted anything close to a
> >> >> >> >>> comprehensive
> >> >> >> >>> examination of the contents, for instance. And just recently, a
> >> >> >> >>> Forbes
> >> >> >> >>> blogger I sometimes discuss these issues with, Sean Lawson, used
> >> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >> >>> e-mails to glean info on an association which had provided a
> >> >> >> >>> "letter
> >> >> >> >>> of support" to relevant Congressional committee on CISPA, and
> >> >> >> >>> which
> >> >> >> >>> turned out to not really exist in any real form. It's all just a
> >> >> >> >>> matter of either getting lucky, having an idea of what to look
> >> >> >> >>> for,
> >> >> >> >>> or
> >> >> >> >>> going through them in some more formal manner than what was done
> >> >> >> >>> via
> >> >> >> >>> Anonymous/Project PM last year.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >> >> >> >>> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> > Hey Barrett,
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Thanks for sending this informative info & sorry for the
> >> >> >> >>> > delayed
> >> >> >> >>> > response.
> >> >> >> >>> > I've been offline for a few days and have been dealing with an
> >> >> >> >>> > email
> >> >> >> >>> > backlog
> >> >> >> >>> > today. I was actually thinking about the HBGary emails last
> >> >> >> >>> > week.
> >> >> >> >>> > How
> >> >> >> >>> > extensively have you searched through them? I'm wondering if
> >> >> >> >>> > there
> >> >> >> >>> > are
> >> >> >> >>> > still
> >> >> >> >>> > more nuggets in there waiting to be found...
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > FYI, Project PM appears to currently be offline -- I'm getting
> >> >> >> >>> > a
> >> >> >> >>> > CloudFlare
> >> >> >> >>> > page.
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Ryan
> >> >> >> >>> > ________________________________
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 01:31:29 -0500
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> Subject: Re:
> >> >> >> >>> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >> >> >> >>> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> Ryan-
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> A couple things:
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> Wanted to make sure you're aware of Telecomix's Blue Cabinet
> >> >> >> >>> >> wiki,
> >> >> >> >>> >> on
> >> >> >> >>> >> which is compiled a great deal of info on dozens of firms in
> >> >> >> >>> >> U.S.,
> >> >> >> >>> >> U.K., and Europe that are known to provide various
> >> >> >> >>> >> surveillance-oriented capabilities to governments (and
> >> >> >> >>> >> dictatorships,
> >> >> >> >>> >> in some cases). I don't know how useful this might be for you
> >> >> >> >>> >> in
> >> >> >> >>> >> the
> >> >> >> >>> >> future, but it could definitely serve as a resource at least
> >> >> >> >>> >> in
> >> >> >> >>> >> terms
> >> >> >> >>> >> of a jumping-off point. Here's a link to the main page, which
> >> >> >> >>> >> lists
> >> >> >> >>> >> all of the firms they've collected info on:
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> http://werebuild.telecomix.org/wiki/Blue_cabinet
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> One other thing. Have been going over our own Project PM wiki
> >> >> >> >>> >> to
> >> >> >> >>> >> fix
> >> >> >> >>> >> it up a bit and add new content and came across something I'd
> >> >> >> >>> >> forgotten about: a discussion between Aaron Barr of HBGary
> >> >> >> >>> >> and
> >> >> >> >>> >> Tim
> >> >> >> >>> >> Reisen of Archimedes Global and Tim Clair of TASC about a
> >> >> >> >>> >> market
> >> >> >> >>> >> survey, presumably put out by a U.S. entity, in reference to
> >> >> >> >>> >> "misattributable marketing services," as they call it in the
> >> >> >> >>> >> e-mail
> >> >> >> >>> >> exchange. The source of this exchange is the HBGary e-mails
> >> >> >> >>> >> and
> >> >> >> >>> >> the
> >> >> >> >>> >> entire exchange is reproduced on our page here:
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Misattributable_marketing_services
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> Based on the self-explanatory moniker as well as the fact
> >> >> >> >>> >> that
> >> >> >> >>> >> those
> >> >> >> >>> >> involved in the e-mail exchange were also working on a
> >> >> >> >>> >> recompete
> >> >> >> >>> >> bid
> >> >> >> >>> >> for Romas/COIN, which itself includes some large and
> >> >> >> >>> >> mysterious
> >> >> >> >>> >> marketing component that clearly entails hiding the source of
> >> >> >> >>> >> certain
> >> >> >> >>> >> forms of output, it's not difficult to get a general sense of
> >> >> >> >>> >> what
> >> >> >> >>> >> this capability refers to. It's certainly interesting that
> >> >> >> >>> >> one
> >> >> >> >>> >> of
> >> >> >> >>> >> the
> >> >> >> >>> >> participants ask if AOL has such a thing. It's also possible
> >> >> >> >>> >> that
> >> >> >> >>> >> some
> >> >> >> >>> >> clues as to its potential/desirability might be gleaned from
> >> >> >> >>> >> another
> >> >> >> >>> >> discussion between Barr and Riesen that I've listed on the
> >> >> >> >>> >> bottom
> >> >> >> >>> >> of
> >> >> >> >>> >> our page on Archimedes Global, here:
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Archimedes_Global
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> At any rate, just wanted to make sure you were aware of the
> >> >> >> >>> >> clues
> >> >> >> >>> >> we've found on this. Certainly methodologies by which to hide
> >> >> >> >>> >> the
> >> >> >> >>> >> true
> >> >> >> >>> >> source of activity of various kinds are of great interest to
> >> >> >> >>> >> a
> >> >> >> >>> >> number
> >> >> >> >>> >> of agencies and private contractors at this point, and I
> >> >> >> >>> >> think
> >> >> >> >>> >> it's
> >> >> >> >>> >> likely that some of the more unfortunate pursuits coming out
> >> >> >> >>> >> of
> >> >> >> >>> >> that
> >> >> >> >>> >> world in the next ten years will be dependent on such things
> >> >> >> >>> >> as
> >> >> >> >>> >> this,
> >> >> >> >>> >> so it might be something to look out for.
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >> >> >> >>> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> >> > Good grief, that's worrying. Some of these congressmen are
> >> >> >> >>> >> > crackpots
> >> >> >> >>> >> > of
> >> >> >> >>> >> > the
> >> >> >> >>> >> > highest order... I doubt the amendment they're proposing
> >> >> >> >>> >> > will
> >> >> >> >>> >> > make it
> >> >> >> >>> >> > into
> >> >> >> >>> >> > law, but the very fact that there are people in positions
> >> >> >> >>> >> > of
> >> >> >> >>> >> > influence
> >> >> >> >>> >> > pushing for these sorts of measures is bad enough in
> >> >> >> >>> >> > itself.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> > ________________________________
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:03:26 -0500
> >> >> >> >>> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Also:
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > I have a few ideas and I know some good editors who I'm
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > hopeful
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > will
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > show
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > some spine and step up to the plate. There is a
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > substantial
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > public
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > interest
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > in publishing... But the fact we are dealing with one of
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > world's
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > largest
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > defense firms doesn't help -- especially not in the
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > States.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > It's
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > been
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > quite
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > an eye-opener, let me tell you. The chilling effect is
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > quite
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > extraordinary
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > and deeply concerning.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > Anyway, fingers crossed I'll get something worked out.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > Ryan
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > ________________________________
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 19:11:53 -0500
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I guess I'm not really surprised. Although a very
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> strong
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> precedent
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> has
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> been established by virtue of the widespread
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> publication
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> materials emanating from the HBGary grab, to say
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> nothing
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> everything
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Wikileaks has done with its partner publications, few
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> outlets
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> willing to take risks on these things. I'm sorry that
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> you're
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> having
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> difficulty with this, but hopefully you'll have better
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> luck
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> elsewhere.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> In such a case as I can of any further help, let me
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> know.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Barrett,
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Apologies for the lengthy delay with this Raytheon
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > piece.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > The
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > thing
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > was
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > written weeks ago but has been hindered by all kinds
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > editorial
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrangling
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > and now legal issues. I didn't realize the severity
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > copyright
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > implications and I've been held up significantly by
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > fact
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Raytheon
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > does not want these videos in the public domain.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > I've concluded tonight that a fairly drastic solution
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > required:
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > going
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > to have to move the story from the States to a
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > publisher
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > UK.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Tomorrow
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > I'm going to send a few emails. I'll keep you
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > updated.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Again, sorry for the delay. I assure you I'm doing
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > all I
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > can.
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Hope all's well with you,
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Ryan
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> 940-735-9748
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 940-735-9748
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> --
> >> >> >> >>> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >> >>> >> Barrett Brown
> >> >> >> >>> >> 940-735-9748
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Barrett Brown
> >> >> >> >>> 940-735-9748
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Barrett Brown
> >> >> >> > 940-735-9748
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >> >> >> 940-735-9748
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >> >> 512-560-2302
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Barrett Brown
> >> 512-560-2302
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Barrett Brown
> 512-560-2302