> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 06:48:12 -0500
> Subject: Re:
> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
>
> Ryan-
>
> Someone just sent me this wiki; seems to be a much better resource at
> this point than BlueCabinet, and perhaps you'll find it useful.
> http://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
> > While I'm thinking about it, here's something that I never noticed the
> > first time around and which concerns some sort of Twitter project
> > proposed by another firm:
> > http://hbgary.par-anoia.net/ted/messages/98085528e8ed2d4c089995f342de818bc5270081_html.html
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Ryan Gallagher
> > <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Yeah, I'm pretty convinced there are additional nuggets to be found also. I
> >> think what I'll do is allocate one day soon to sit and do some searching. It
> >> seems impossible to me that, in all those emails, that are not further
> >> revelations that are yet to come out....
> >>
> >> Ryan
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:05:16 -0500
> >>
> >>> Subject: Re:
> >>> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>>
> >>> Hi, Ryan-
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the network on which Echelon2.org is now hosted, Voxanon which
> >>> hosts an increasingly influential IRC network, has been under pretty
> >>> intense attack by unknown parties over the past couple of days in
> >>> particular. We just moved the server there a week ago, but unsure if
> >>> this is related or not, as there are any number of possible motives,
> >>> some petty and/or "personality oriented," that could explain such an
> >>> attack. Hopefully whatever's going on will be "resolved" soon.
> >>>
> >>> As for the HBGary e-mails, I've rooted through them via a process
> >>> that's necessarily somewhat haphazard, pursuing keywords
> >>> (capabilities, names of individuals or firms, etc) that I or others
> >>> have come across somewhat randomly (in most cases), so neither I nor
> >>> the various people who have volunteered for Project PM can really
> >>> claim to have gone through them extensively. As for there being
> >>> additional nuggets to be found, I am absolutely convinced that there
> >>> are. No single party has conducted anything close to a comprehensive
> >>> examination of the contents, for instance. And just recently, a Forbes
> >>> blogger I sometimes discuss these issues with, Sean Lawson, used the
> >>> e-mails to glean info on an association which had provided a "letter
> >>> of support" to relevant Congressional committee on CISPA, and which
> >>> turned out to not really exist in any real form. It's all just a
> >>> matter of either getting lucky, having an idea of what to look for, or
> >>> going through them in some more formal manner than what was done via
> >>> Anonymous/Project PM last year.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Hey Barrett,
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks for sending this informative info & sorry for the delayed
> >>> > response.
> >>> > I've been offline for a few days and have been dealing with an email
> >>> > backlog
> >>> > today. I was actually thinking about the HBGary emails last week. How
> >>> > extensively have you searched through them? I'm wondering if there are
> >>> > still
> >>> > more nuggets in there waiting to be found...
> >>> >
> >>> > FYI, Project PM appears to currently be offline -- I'm getting a
> >>> > CloudFlare
> >>> > page.
> >>> >
> >>> > Ryan
> >>> > ________________________________
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 01:31:29 -0500
> >>> >
> >>> >> Subject: Re:
> >>> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Ryan-
> >>> >>
> >>> >> A couple things:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Wanted to make sure you're aware of Telecomix's Blue Cabinet wiki, on
> >>> >> which is compiled a great deal of info on dozens of firms in U.S.,
> >>> >> U.K., and Europe that are known to provide various
> >>> >> surveillance-oriented capabilities to governments (and dictatorships,
> >>> >> in some cases). I don't know how useful this might be for you in the
> >>> >> future, but it could definitely serve as a resource at least in terms
> >>> >> of a jumping-off point. Here's a link to the main page, which lists
> >>> >> all of the firms they've collected info on:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> http://werebuild.telecomix.org/wiki/Blue_cabinet
> >>> >>
> >>> >> One other thing. Have been going over our own Project PM wiki to fix
> >>> >> it up a bit and add new content and came across something I'd
> >>> >> forgotten about: a discussion between Aaron Barr of HBGary and Tim
> >>> >> Reisen of Archimedes Global and Tim Clair of TASC about a market
> >>> >> survey, presumably put out by a U.S. entity, in reference to
> >>> >> "misattributable marketing services," as they call it in the e-mail
> >>> >> exchange. The source of this exchange is the HBGary e-mails and the
> >>> >> entire exchange is reproduced on our page here:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Misattributable_marketing_services
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Based on the self-explanatory moniker as well as the fact that those
> >>> >> involved in the e-mail exchange were also working on a recompete bid
> >>> >> for Romas/COIN, which itself includes some large and mysterious
> >>> >> marketing component that clearly entails hiding the source of certain
> >>> >> forms of output, it's not difficult to get a general sense of what
> >>> >> this capability refers to. It's certainly interesting that one of the
> >>> >> participants ask if AOL has such a thing. It's also possible that some
> >>> >> clues as to its potential/desirability might be gleaned from another
> >>> >> discussion between Barr and Riesen that I've listed on the bottom of
> >>> >> our page on Archimedes Global, here:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Archimedes_Global
> >>> >>
> >>> >> At any rate, just wanted to make sure you were aware of the clues
> >>> >> we've found on this. Certainly methodologies by which to hide the true
> >>> >> source of activity of various kinds are of great interest to a number
> >>> >> of agencies and private contractors at this point, and I think it's
> >>> >> likely that some of the more unfortunate pursuits coming out of that
> >>> >> world in the next ten years will be dependent on such things as this,
> >>> >> so it might be something to look out for.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> > Good grief, that's worrying. Some of these congressmen are crackpots
> >>> >> > of
> >>> >> > the
> >>> >> > highest order... I doubt the amendment they're proposing will make it
> >>> >> > into
> >>> >> > law, but the very fact that there are people in positions of
> >>> >> > influence
> >>> >> > pushing for these sorts of measures is bad enough in itself.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > ________________________________
> >>> >> >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:03:26 -0500
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >>> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Also:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> >> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> > I have a few ideas and I know some good editors who I'm hopeful
> >>> >> >> > will
> >>> >> >> > show
> >>> >> >> > some spine and step up to the plate. There is a substantial public
> >>> >> >> > interest
> >>> >> >> > in publishing... But the fact we are dealing with one of the
> >>> >> >> > world's
> >>> >> >> > largest
> >>> >> >> > defense firms doesn't help -- especially not in the States. It's
> >>> >> >> > been
> >>> >> >> > quite
> >>> >> >> > an eye-opener, let me tell you. The chilling effect is quite
> >>> >> >> > extraordinary
> >>> >> >> > and deeply concerning.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Anyway, fingers crossed I'll get something worked out.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Ryan
> >>> >> >> > ________________________________
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 19:11:53 -0500
> >>> >> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >>> >> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> I guess I'm not really surprised. Although a very strong
> >>> >> >> >> precedent
> >>> >> >> >> has
> >>> >> >> >> been established by virtue of the widespread publication of the
> >>> >> >> >> materials emanating from the HBGary grab, to say nothing of
> >>> >> >> >> everything
> >>> >> >> >> Wikileaks has done with its partner publications, few outlets are
> >>> >> >> >> willing to take risks on these things. I'm sorry that you're
> >>> >> >> >> having
> >>> >> >> >> difficulty with this, but hopefully you'll have better luck
> >>> >> >> >> elsewhere.
> >>> >> >> >> In such a case as I can of any further help, let me know.
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >>> >> >> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> > Barrett,
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > Apologies for the lengthy delay with this Raytheon piece. The
> >>> >> >> >> > thing
> >>> >> >> >> > was
> >>> >> >> >> > written weeks ago but has been hindered by all kinds of
> >>> >> >> >> > editorial
> >>> >> >> >> > wrangling
> >>> >> >> >> > and now legal issues. I didn't realize the severity of the
> >>> >> >> >> > copyright
> >>> >> >> >> > implications and I've been held up significantly by the fact
> >>> >> >> >> > that
> >>> >> >> >> > Raytheon
> >>> >> >> >> > does not want these videos in the public domain.
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > I've concluded tonight that a fairly drastic solution is
> >>> >> >> >> > required:
> >>> >> >> >> > I'm
> >>> >> >> >> > going
> >>> >> >> >> > to have to move the story from the States to a publisher in the
> >>> >> >> >> > UK.
> >>> >> >> >> > Tomorrow
> >>> >> >> >> > I'm going to send a few emails. I'll keep you updated.
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > Again, sorry for the delay. I assure you I'm doing all I can.
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > Hope all's well with you,
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > Ryan
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> Regards,
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >>> >> >> >> 940-735-9748
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> Regards,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >>> >> >> 940-735-9748
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Regards,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Barrett Brown
> >>> >> 940-735-9748
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Barrett Brown
> >>> 940-735-9748
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Barrett Brown
> > 940-735-9748
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Barrett Brown
> 940-735-9748