> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:05:16 -0500
> Subject: Re:
> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
>
> Hi, Ryan-
>
> Yes, the network on which Echelon2.org is now hosted, Voxanon which
> hosts an increasingly influential IRC network, has been under pretty
> intense attack by unknown parties over the past couple of days in
> particular. We just moved the server there a week ago, but unsure if
> this is related or not, as there are any number of possible motives,
> some petty and/or "personality oriented," that could explain such an
> attack. Hopefully whatever's going on will be "resolved" soon.
>
> As for the HBGary e-mails, I've rooted through them via a process
> that's necessarily somewhat haphazard, pursuing keywords
> (capabilities, names of individuals or firms, etc) that I or others
> have come across somewhat randomly (in most cases), so neither I nor
> the various people who have volunteered for Project PM can really
> claim to have gone through them extensively. As for there being
> additional nuggets to be found, I am absolutely convinced that there
> are. No single party has conducted anything close to a comprehensive
> examination of the contents, for instance. And just recently, a Forbes
> blogger I sometimes discuss these issues with, Sean Lawson, used the
> e-mails to glean info on an association which had provided a "letter
> of support" to relevant Congressional committee on CISPA, and which
> turned out to not really exist in any real form. It's all just a
> matter of either getting lucky, having an idea of what to look for, or
> going through them in some more formal manner than what was done via
> Anonymous/Project PM last year.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey Barrett,
> >
> > Thanks for sending this informative info & sorry for the delayed response.
> > I've been offline for a few days and have been dealing with an email backlog
> > today. I was actually thinking about the HBGary emails last week. How
> > extensively have you searched through them? I'm wondering if there are still
> > more nuggets in there waiting to be found...
> >
> > FYI, Project PM appears to currently be offline -- I'm getting a CloudFlare
> > page.
> >
> > Ryan
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 01:31:29 -0500
> >
> >> Subject: Re:
> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >>
> >> Ryan-
> >>
> >> A couple things:
> >>
> >> Wanted to make sure you're aware of Telecomix's Blue Cabinet wiki, on
> >> which is compiled a great deal of info on dozens of firms in U.S.,
> >> U.K., and Europe that are known to provide various
> >> surveillance-oriented capabilities to governments (and dictatorships,
> >> in some cases). I don't know how useful this might be for you in the
> >> future, but it could definitely serve as a resource at least in terms
> >> of a jumping-off point. Here's a link to the main page, which lists
> >> all of the firms they've collected info on:
> >>
> >> http://werebuild.telecomix.org/wiki/Blue_cabinet
> >>
> >> One other thing. Have been going over our own Project PM wiki to fix
> >> it up a bit and add new content and came across something I'd
> >> forgotten about: a discussion between Aaron Barr of HBGary and Tim
> >> Reisen of Archimedes Global and Tim Clair of TASC about a market
> >> survey, presumably put out by a U.S. entity, in reference to
> >> "misattributable marketing services," as they call it in the e-mail
> >> exchange. The source of this exchange is the HBGary e-mails and the
> >> entire exchange is reproduced on our page here:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Misattributable_marketing_services
> >>
> >> Based on the self-explanatory moniker as well as the fact that those
> >> involved in the e-mail exchange were also working on a recompete bid
> >> for Romas/COIN, which itself includes some large and mysterious
> >> marketing component that clearly entails hiding the source of certain
> >> forms of output, it's not difficult to get a general sense of what
> >> this capability refers to. It's certainly interesting that one of the
> >> participants ask if AOL has such a thing. It's also possible that some
> >> clues as to its potential/desirability might be gleaned from another
> >> discussion between Barr and Riesen that I've listed on the bottom of
> >> our page on Archimedes Global, here:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Archimedes_Global
> >>
> >> At any rate, just wanted to make sure you were aware of the clues
> >> we've found on this. Certainly methodologies by which to hide the true
> >> source of activity of various kinds are of great interest to a number
> >> of agencies and private contractors at this point, and I think it's
> >> likely that some of the more unfortunate pursuits coming out of that
> >> world in the next ten years will be dependent on such things as this,
> >> so it might be something to look out for.
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Good grief, that's worrying. Some of these congressmen are crackpots of
> >> > the
> >> > highest order... I doubt the amendment they're proposing will make it
> >> > into
> >> > law, but the very fact that there are people in positions of influence
> >> > pushing for these sorts of measures is bad enough in itself.
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:03:26 -0500
> >> >
> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >> >>
> >> >> Also:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > I have a few ideas and I know some good editors who I'm hopeful will
> >> >> > show
> >> >> > some spine and step up to the plate. There is a substantial public
> >> >> > interest
> >> >> > in publishing... But the fact we are dealing with one of the world's
> >> >> > largest
> >> >> > defense firms doesn't help -- especially not in the States. It's been
> >> >> > quite
> >> >> > an eye-opener, let me tell you. The chilling effect is quite
> >> >> > extraordinary
> >> >> > and deeply concerning.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anyway, fingers crossed I'll get something worked out.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ryan
> >> >> > ________________________________
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 19:11:53 -0500
> >> >> >> Subject: Re:
> >> >> >> From: barriticus@gmail.com
> >> >> >> To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I guess I'm not really surprised. Although a very strong precedent
> >> >> >> has
> >> >> >> been established by virtue of the widespread publication of the
> >> >> >> materials emanating from the HBGary grab, to say nothing of
> >> >> >> everything
> >> >> >> Wikileaks has done with its partner publications, few outlets are
> >> >> >> willing to take risks on these things. I'm sorry that you're having
> >> >> >> difficulty with this, but hopefully you'll have better luck
> >> >> >> elsewhere.
> >> >> >> In such a case as I can of any further help, let me know.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Gallagher
> >> >> >> <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Barrett,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Apologies for the lengthy delay with this Raytheon piece. The
> >> >> >> > thing
> >> >> >> > was
> >> >> >> > written weeks ago but has been hindered by all kinds of editorial
> >> >> >> > wrangling
> >> >> >> > and now legal issues. I didn't realize the severity of the
> >> >> >> > copyright
> >> >> >> > implications and I've been held up significantly by the fact that
> >> >> >> > Raytheon
> >> >> >> > does not want these videos in the public domain.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I've concluded tonight that a fairly drastic solution is required:
> >> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> >> > going
> >> >> >> > to have to move the story from the States to a publisher in the
> >> >> >> > UK.
> >> >> >> > Tomorrow
> >> >> >> > I'm going to send a few emails. I'll keep you updated.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Again, sorry for the delay. I assure you I'm doing all I can.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hope all's well with you,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Ryan
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >> >> >> 940-735-9748
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Barrett Brown
> >> >> 940-735-9748
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> Barrett Brown
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>
>
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>
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