Subject: Re: |
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> |
Date: 6/9/12, 02:31 |
To: Ryan Gallagher <ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> |
Ryan-
A couple things:
Wanted to make sure you're aware of Telecomix's Blue Cabinet wiki, on
which is compiled a great deal of info on dozens of firms in U.S.,
U.K., and Europe that are known to provide various
surveillance-oriented capabilities to governments (and dictatorships,
in some cases). I don't know how useful this might be for you in the
future, but it could definitely serve as a resource at least in terms
of a jumping-off point. Here's a link to the main page, which lists
all of the firms they've collected info on:
http://werebuild.telecomix.org/wiki/Blue_cabinet
One other thing. Have been going over our own Project PM wiki to fix
it up a bit and add new content and came across something I'd
forgotten about: a discussion between Aaron Barr of HBGary and Tim
Reisen of Archimedes Global and Tim Clair of TASC about a market
survey, presumably put out by a U.S. entity, in reference to
"misattributable marketing services," as they call it in the e-mail
exchange. The source of this exchange is the HBGary e-mails and the
entire exchange is reproduced on our page here:
https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Misattributable_marketing_services
Based on the self-explanatory moniker as well as the fact that those
involved in the e-mail exchange were also working on a recompete bid
for Romas/COIN, which itself includes some large and mysterious
marketing component that clearly entails hiding the source of certain
forms of output, it's not difficult to get a general sense of what
this capability refers to. It's certainly interesting that one of the
participants ask if AOL has such a thing. It's also possible that some
clues as to its potential/desirability might be gleaned from another
discussion between Barr and Riesen that I've listed on the bottom of
our page on Archimedes Global, here:
https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Archimedes_Global
At any rate, just wanted to make sure you were aware of the clues
we've found on this. Certainly methodologies by which to hide the true
source of activity of various kinds are of great interest to a number
of agencies and private contractors at this point, and I think it's
likely that some of the more unfortunate pursuits coming out of that
world in the next ten years will be dependent on such things as this,
so it might be something to look out for.
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
Good grief, that's worrying. Some of these congressmen are crackpots of the
highest order... I doubt the amendment they're proposing will make it into
law, but the very fact that there are people in positions of influence
pushing for these sorts of measures is bad enough in itself.
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:03:26 -0500
Subject: Re:
From: barriticus@gmail.com
To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
Also:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have a few ideas and I know some good editors who I'm hopeful will
show
some spine and step up to the plate. There is a substantial public
interest
in publishing... But the fact we are dealing with one of the world's
largest
defense firms doesn't help -- especially not in the States. It's been
quite
an eye-opener, let me tell you. The chilling effect is quite
extraordinary
and deeply concerning.
Anyway, fingers crossed I'll get something worked out.
Ryan
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 19:11:53 -0500
Subject: Re:
From: barriticus@gmail.com
To: ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com
I guess I'm not really surprised. Although a very strong precedent has
been established by virtue of the widespread publication of the
materials emanating from the HBGary grab, to say nothing of everything
Wikileaks has done with its partner publications, few outlets are
willing to take risks on these things. I'm sorry that you're having
difficulty with this, but hopefully you'll have better luck elsewhere.
In such a case as I can of any further help, let me know.
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Gallagher
<ryan.gallagher@hotmail.com> wrote:
Barrett,
Apologies for the lengthy delay with this Raytheon piece. The thing
was
written weeks ago but has been hindered by all kinds of editorial
wrangling
and now legal issues. I didn't realize the severity of the copyright
implications and I've been held up significantly by the fact that
Raytheon
does not want these videos in the public domain.
I've concluded tonight that a fairly drastic solution is required:
I'm
going
to have to move the story from the States to a publisher in the UK.
Tomorrow
I'm going to send a few emails. I'll keep you updated.
Again, sorry for the delay. I assure you I'm doing all I can.
Hope all's well with you,
Ryan
--
Regards,
Barrett Brown
940-735-9748
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Regards,
Barrett Brown
940-735-9748
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Regards,
Barrett Brown
940-735-9748