Subject: Re: these people |
From: Emma Allan <emilieduchatelet8@gmail.com> |
Date: 5/23/12, 08:10 |
To: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> |
There's so much that happened that I resent, including that incident
when someone asked you for your credit card number (and that was
indeed Avunit, who's a fucking idiot). The amount of flak I took from
the "national security" enthusiasts was at least understandable, since
they were ideologically opposed to Wikileaks and all that. But so much
of the hassle I received, I got from Anons who weren't around when
Tunisia went down, or HBGary, or what have you, and thus didn't know
the extent to which I was involved in these things and asked by
certain people to do the media operations that I did. Rather than ask
around or reserve judgment, many of these people just attacked me,
either via comments or gossip or via signing me up for spam or
distributing my phone number or whatever. Something like that happened
to a guy named Chris Wood, "Coldblood," who talked to the BBC about
what Anon was doing in late 2010; someone didn't like him speaking to
the media as an Anon and used his screenname in a chat to depict him
as being involved in illegal hacks and whatnot. Later he was actually
arrested, and spent about five months wondering whether or not he was
going to go to prison. Finally, the Metropolitan Police and whatever
other agencies were involved realized their mistake and dropped the
charges. All of this happened because some guy thought it would be
worthwhile to set this kid up for an arrest because the kid talked to
the media about the things Anon was doing.
I was very passionate about all of this when Wikileaks was being
defended from the several states that had gone after it, and when we
were helping Tunisia get off to the right start, and when HBGary was
caught spying on us just so that some fucking yuppie idiot could
advance his career, and in a few other cases since, like Bahrain. But
back then we were really lucky to have so many good people available
in one place. I didn't realize how lucky this was until that started
to change a couple months later, when new operations against Sony
started attracting hundreds of people who just wanted to fuck with the
company that makes their little video games, and their behavior helped
to chase out the people who had gotten involved in the months prior.
And I and a couple of other people had a hard time giving up on it
all, assuming that we could somehow manipulate things as to bring back
the right people and otherwise "control" what was happening for the
better, but we were wrong. All we could actually do was recruit a few
of the better people to keep working on some of the info that had come
out of HBGary and convince a handful of journalists to keep at it.
Even after that, we kept trying with Anonymous as a whole, even after
the Lulzsec shit happened, because some of these hackers whom we
disliked nonetheless had the ability to obtain crucial e-mails from
these U.S. firms every once in a while, and we wanted those e-mails
more than anything.
Emma, I've been very distracted by all of this, plus other little
related factors that kept cropping up. You don't know all of it, but
basically I got very much tied into what I saw as a necessary campaign
by which to expose and disrupt all of these companies and the
government agencies that work with them. It became very important to
me, so much so that I ignored a lot else in life that would have made
me happier. One of my greatest regrets is that I didn't take the time
to fly over to Newcastle and spend a month doing you in your sleep. I
hope you understand that the interactions we've had have been one of
my few real pleasures over the past couple of years, and that my
failure to take more advantage of what we have has had a lot to do
with these sorts of things.
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Emma Allan <emilieduchatelet8@gmail.com> wrote:
> The main problem that has been highlighted for me since the Sabu debacle is
> that it's impossible to know who one is dealing with. Whether they are
> legitimate or crooks. I remember sometime,last year or the year before that,
> one Anon person contacted me via Twitter asking for a US credit card. As if
> I'd give them details anyway, even if I had one. I remember I immediately
> told you and you ripped him a new one for trying to involve me in whatever
> madcap caper they were brewing.
>
> That, I feel is just the tip of the iceberg. And frankly, it's not worth it
> to become embroiled in other people's dirty schemes. The whole idea makes me
> angry and turns me right off the whole concept of Anon.
>
> To be absolutely serious I would only trust you now. No-one else. I know
> you, I know you wouldn't put me in danger or hoodwink me or shaft me or
> involve me in anything criminal. But I can't say the same for anyone else.
>
> If Anon were made up of 100,000 Barrett Browns then yes, I would be in. But
> it is not and never will be. It is made up of Jennifer MadArse Emrick, Sabu,
> Sabu wannabe's, loudmouths and 17 year old children. None of the old guys
> are around. The ones who helped me, who I thought actually gave a damn about
> world events like Anon IRC and Avunit. I don't know who is running the Anon
> IRC tweeter feed but it's not the original person. And whoever is pretending
> to be Avunit is doing a pretty terrible job.
>
> The thing is they get away with mediocre work and bad ideas bc a lot of
> people who follow Anon are stupid. And probably insane.
>
> Anyway, the upshot of this rant is this: You need help Barrett, I'm here.
> Everybody else can get lost. I'm disillusioned and sick of crazy people
> being crazy.
>
> I still love you and have never lost faith in you, though. So yeah, please
> don't get arrested. X
>
> On May 21, 2012 8:57 AM, "Barrett Brown" <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm disappointed, to say the least, about a lot of it. Anonymous is
>> only as good as the people who make it up, and I've seen countless
>> real activists just fall away as the venues become crowded with people
>> who don't care about issues and don't want to put any work in to
>> pursue effective operations. Anyway, there's still a good chance for
>> tighter groups exerting quality control to come up out of this,
>> gradually.
>>
>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Emma Allan <emilieduchatelet8@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Lol. Apparently I'm TFlow and Marduk! Could they get it any more wrong?
>> > My
>> > ip isn't even hidden. Those pics are of me! Seriously if that's the best
>> > they can do.... Speculation, guessing. I'm done with that Anon shit.
>> > It's
>> > just grandstanding and bluster. I blocked oxblood ruffin. Honestly
>> > they're
>> > all idiots.
>> >
>> > On May 1, 2012 7:34 AM, "Barrett Brown" <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sorry I'm only now getting back to you and with this, but this here is
>> >> a log between an HBGary exec and that crazy woman who's friend
>> >> threatened you, who was also working for the FBI at the time, sort of.
>> >> Just found out all of this. And your Twitter account was identified as
>> >> Lulzsec.
>> >>
>> >> http://pastebin.com/12crnMjP
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Barrett Brown
>> >> 940-735-9748
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Barrett Brown
>> 940-735-9748
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Regards,
Barrett Brown
940-735-9748