RE: Amazon

The process of hiring a free-lance editor depends, first and foremost, on your ability to write a check up front.  Cost would be a minimum of $5000, $7500--could easily be more, depending on the experience / expertise of the editor, and given also the nature of the material itself, the fact that you have a publisher in hand, and so forth.  There are numerous freelance editors, former in-house people who've been sacked (though increasingly those seem to be the very people Amazon hires....)--we'd come up w/ a list of names and then you'd talk with them and then send the ms and then they'd read and then...  like that.

Again, we don't know much until we hear from Julia--but it's possible that, if we were to go to her ourselves and say, OK, we want to pay for an editor to help whip this into shape, who do you recommend--perhaps that changes the conversation / energy quickly.  Perhaps, even, that editor could be paid out of the money Amazon still owes you, in which case you WOULDN'T have to write a check.

You guys want to talk about this later today sometime?
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Dan Conaway
Literary Agent
Writers House
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From: Gregg Housh [greggatghc@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:45 PM
To: Barrett Brown
Cc: Daniel Conaway; Stephen Barr
Subject: Re: Amazon

That was a lot of email.  Caught up.  I have no problems with the idea of an outside editor.  Or whatever else she wants to do to make this happen.  If she wants to try and cancel, then I like your response there too.

How does the process of getting an outside editor hired work?


On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com<mailto:barriticus@gmail.com>> wrote:
I would think that our hiring of an outside editor to fix it would absolutely be the best option, particularly if that would prove to be something Julia would see as a good way forward for both sides here.

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Daniel Conaway <dconaway@writershouse.com<mailto:dconaway@writershouse.com>> wrote:

Gregg and Barrett,



See Julias initial response to the manuscript, below, along with my note to her this morning.  To summarize, shes extremely disappointed.  Theres no doubting her basic message:  this isnt just an ordinarily messy first draft; in her mind, this is far from publishable.



My sense?  I havent read it all, but Ive read enough to know that its a long way from being something that I could even submit to another publisherin its current shape, anywayif Amazon were to cancel the book.  Im not siding with JuliaI work for you guysbut objectively, you should know that I dont think shes way off the mark.  This needs a LOT of work.



BUT:  I work for you, and so for the time being the quality of the manuscript itself is irrelevant to me, becausegood, or notits my job to protect your interests.  And so, in service of that, I want to give you the lay of the land, OK?



What Julia was HOPING for in this email exchange with me was to have a collegial chat about the deficiencies of the manuscript; if Id read the ms and agreed that it was a mess, my being on board with her opinion would help her facilitate her next move, whatever that might be.   And its on that front that Im not going to make this easy for her.



The options, potentially:



         she wants my OK simply to kick your butts editoriallyto rant about sloppiness, but then to really be SPECIFIC about the work you need to do, and help you do it.  That would be the best possible news, because actual INPUT is exactly what weve hoped for.

         it may be that she wants to suggest that we (YOU) hire an outside editor to help remedy a substandard manuscript that will otherwise be deemed unacceptable;

         or she feel that the manuscript is so far from what she envisioned that she wants to initiate cancelation immediately.



My GUESS is that she wants to cancel the book outright.  If so A) she cant just decree it thusas Im about to explain; and B) I can (and WILL) be obstructionist rather than cooperative, and will REQURE her to adhere to the letter of the contract, in a formal way.  Heres the contractual language about acceptance (or non-acceptance) and what the process would be.  Cuz there actually IS a process here, as laid out below





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So:  before they could cancel the book, if thats what they ultimately wanted to do, FIRST they have to make a good-faith effort to provide the editorial guidance required to improve it materially.  They could still decide to reject it, after those revisionsbut those revisions will almost certainly be helpful TO US in terms of reselling this elsewhere, if thats what happens.



Sorry for the long email.  There are other issues here too, and Im happy to answer any questions you have, ANY, OK?  For now, though, the balls in Julias courtwe need to get a more specific response from her. By the way?  Its possible that she still DOES want to make this work, and is preparing to roll up her sleeves in a serious way.  That would be IDEAL, for a bunch of reasons, because it means the book wouldnt be delayed indefinitely before finally being published.



Thats all for now.  Again, call if youd like to discuss.



-Dan



-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Conaway
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:18 AM
To: Cheiffetz, Julia
Subject: RE: Do-over



Hey, Julia--



What's your sense of when G&B will be getting edits back?  Are you and Katie working on that now?  I ask not to excuse the fact that I haven't read this yet [I'm sorry to be so fucking slow--I am (literally) the slowest reader I have ever encountered] or to absent myself from the process, but because I don't want to be (can't be) the reason the process gets stalled indefinitely.  Obviously I'm sorry to hear your reaction here, and I'm not going to pretend that this doesn't need considerable editorial direction--but it's that, yours & Katie's direction / response, that's what matters & is needed here, you know?



-D

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Dan Conaway

Literary Agent

Writers House



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From: Cheiffetz, Julia [juliac@amazon.com<mailto:juliac@amazon.com>]

Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:45 PM

To: Daniel Conaway

Subject: RE: Do-over



Please holler once you've read it so we can put our heads together. Without being overdramatic, I'm shocked at how disjointed and poorly written it is.



-----Original Message-----

From: Daniel Conaway [mailto:dconaway@WritersHouse.com]<mailto:[mailto:dconaway@WritersHouse.com]>

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:37 PM

To: Cheiffetz, Julia

Subject: Re: Do-over



I haven't yet, no--had hoped to have finished edits on another project this weekend and dig in, but to no avail.  It's next on the stack as soon as I do.



--D



Sent, briefly, from my phone



----- Reply message -----

From: "Cheiffetz, Julia" <juliac@amazon.com<mailto:juliac@amazon.com>>

To: "Daniel Conaway" <dconaway@WritersHouse.com<mailto:dconaway@WritersHouse.com>>, "Salisbury, Katie" <katiesal@amazon.com<mailto:katiesal@amazon.com>>

Subject: Do-over

Date: Fri, May 11, 2012 5:11 pm







Thanks.



Dan, let's chat next week. I'm very disappointed with the manuscript. Have you read it?



From: Daniel Conaway [mailto:dconaway@WritersHouse.com]<mailto:[mailto:dconaway@WritersHouse.com]>

Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:04 PM

To: Cheiffetz, Julia; Salisbury, Katie

Subject: Do-over



Apologies again...  Hadn't realized Barrett's original was single-spaced.  Delete the previous; here's the version *I'm* printing out for myself.



-D







Dan Conaway

Literary Agent

Writers House

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