Re: the downfall of anonymous
Subject: Re: the downfall of anonymous
From: Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com>
Date: 4/28/12, 21:34
To: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>



On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
i know. i am asking her, right this moment, to point me to her public sources of information. if it is more gossip and adrian chen bullshit i will laugh my fucking ass off.

full disclosure the reason i even started contacting you is that i have been through addiction myself, changed to a softer addiction, and followed you from opcartel onwards. i have been involved in chanology since '08 and worked my ass off.
the second people started attacking you i saw the beginnings of the faggotry that has now become rampant and i started trying to get to the bottom of it. i understand the first suspicions, but as time went by and they kept doing it...

i have NO tolerance for people who use the word "addict" as some kind of insult. this personally rustles my jimmies on several levels. it's getting old.

i work heavily on actual shit that matters, syria and bradley to be precise, but i'm also really, really interested in exposing liars. they aren't threatening per se but they are part of the community of saboteurs.

i have also had a crush on you for a long time along with the other 15,000 bitches on your tip.

-evie


On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
I've never gone to rehab, not sure where she's getting that, so I can't imagine how it can be "well-documented." Not sure what she's talking about regarding any OpGreece "fiasco." Also, kind of odd that she's referencing protection of sources in the context of gossip; that's actually a pretty narrow concept that only applies to actual journalism of the printed or online sort, as opposed to claims someone might decide to make about another person who wasn't sufficiently thrilled about being summoned to a Facebook group. But there's nothing to be done about it; people like that, if called out, will just feel the need to go on the attack even more. By no means is she the worst I've had to live with. Gawker is even worse.


On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:

  • Yesterday
  • Jenna Taylor
    • first tho, re bb: is he aware of you, through your contact? i ask because i want to protect u from something. does bb know who you are, or that u are a journo?

  • Amrita David
    about an hour ago
    Amrita David
    • He is not aware of this profile that I know of. We had a heated discussion about op cartel in my real profile. No idea what he knows or thinks or who he's asked. I've been a journalist since before he was out of diapers. What are you protecting me from? Please be open.

  • Jenna Taylor
    about an hour ago
    • i will be completely open, but specifically is he aware of lizzie brett .. you mentioned a direct line to him. 

      is your knowledge of him based on media (which is fine and very good) or inside info?

      trying to figure something out. NOTHING bad about you, more, about him and certain other parties.

  • Jenna Taylor
    about an hour ago
    • lol at diapers. i hear that lol

    • i remember that. in part 2.. but he disappeared as quickly as he came.. you or t cook added him iirc and he ran

  • Amrita David
    about an hour ago
    Amrita David
    • I don't know if he remembers our exchange.. It is Elizabeth Brett actually. I've never used Lizzie til just that name switch. I've never considered whether he knows or remembers me. He wouldn't recognize my byline. He might be aware of the opgreece fiasco lol. The knowledge about the drug use is observation and personal connection .... Inside info. But it's no secret.

  • Jenna Taylor
    about an hour ago
    • can u reveal your connection at all? via skype or phone or w/e? some type of anon connection? it's ok if not, but i am very curious.

  • Amrita David
    about an hour ago
    Amrita David
    • No I can't reveal my connection. Sources are protected and sacrosanct. Sorry. Same thing I would tell them in Guantanamo. Journalists don't reveal sources.

  • Jenna Taylor
    about an hour ago
    • i understand.

  • Amrita David
    about an hour ago
    Amrita David
    • Professional Ethics.

  • Jenna Taylor
    about an hour ago
    • understood.

    • to be clear as well we are talking about heroin not suboxone right?

    • i also have someone telling me things re bb.. so i am wondering if we have similar sources.. this is why i am asking specifically, if u mean heroin.

  • Amrita David
    about an hour ago
    Amrita David
    • It has been publicly stated places that it is heroin. It could be something with similar effect. What it is doesn't matter to me. I would like to see him get treatment and my sympathies are with his family. What he is using foes NOT matter except to his doctors.

    • My personal observation is that he was nodding in the style of heroin junkies I've known personally.

  • Jenna Taylor
    about an hour ago
    • if he is on suboxone though, it is somewhat like methadone. it's medicine. and if that is indeed what he is on, i am not of the opinion that he is an addict per se. it's for people who want to get off heroin and a valid rx.

    • yeah i am a huge fan of pete doherty, i know my addicts lol trust.

  • Amrita David
    about an hour ago
    Amrita David
    • Nobody knows for sure what's in his system without a drug test. Period.

  • Jenna Taylor
    about an hour ago
    • like me, i can never stop taking my medicine.. SSRI, so you could say i'm an addict.. by that logic, you know?

    • agree

    • and tbh i nod a lot on valium it's pretty similar

  • Amrita David
    about an hour ago
    Amrita David
    • His family has put him in rehab before. That's well documented. He was clean for awhile and then he's nodding... That's not medicine. And methadone and other substances are most certainly abused. That's known historically

  • Jenna Taylor
    about an hour ago
    • methadone is highly controlled but i see your point. as with suboxone.

  • Amrita David
    about an hour ago
    Amrita David
    • Ssri in not an addiction. You need to research the definition of addiction. I don't think you understand it. Chemo for cancer or heart medication is not addiction. Not the same at all.

  • Jenna Taylor
    about an hour ago
    • i understand addiction. i am psychically addicted to my medicine. if i stop it, the withdrawals are incredibly painful. i need it to function. it's addiction, but not a narcotic.

  • Amrita David
    about an hour ago
    Amrita David
    • Valium is highly addictive which is why I have to argue to get a scrip. I use it very rarely for muscle spasms.

    • Not everyone has painful withdrawal from ssri





On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
i'll keep moving their ducks around and fuckin up their row. can't go wrong then.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, although I'm not really out of it yet; there's a sealed affidavit somewhere with various accusations against me, and they're just waiting until they have their ducks in a row, then they'll probably indict me.


On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
it makes sense. you are a really nice guy bro i am sorry all that happened thank god you came out of it ok.


On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
My last phone was seized by the FBI when they raided me last month, so I've got a new phone and new number, and I want people to use that one (journalists especially tend to get my number off of the e-mail signature) rather than call the old number and think I'm not calling them back.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
why do you include your phone number in your messages i am just curious seems risky idk :(


On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
i get that... thinking of gates as a  sexual being is frightening to say the least. XD


On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
The picture kind of distracts from the words. It's kind of disturbing.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah i for sure will. believe me, it is a huge priority of mine, although i am still highly involved in syria right now i still cannot believe the way it is consistently ignored. on a daily basis.

no sense of humor then at my meme? lol ok :)

-evie


On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Things are going to be kind of quiet at Project PM right now because a lot of us are also working on Bahrain, particularly the effort to bring attention to the PR firm Qorvis, which has represented the regime for last few years (https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Qorvis). You should check out irc.voxanon.net channels #voxanon and #opbahrain.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
me right now at this moment trying to navigate irc on linux he's tempting me:




On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
It varies wildly, and depends less on time of day than it does on other factors. It's best just to "idle" there. Mostly what we do is add to the wiki at echelon2.org, which is currently the only repository of its kind on the intelligence contracting industry, and work with journalists and activists who want to know more about the problem. 


On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
I will. I absolutely will check it out. I'm fed up to be real, with anonymous in general. What times would you say the pm irc is most active?

Thanks for being such a transparent person really, the less ego and more real talk, the better.

<3 evie


On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Although there's always gossip, Anonops having been somehow infiltrated is something I've heard from people I've come to rely on, particularly lately. But Anonops is largely useless now anyway and nothing compared to what it was a year ago. I don't remember hearing of anyone named Tim Wheeler.

Feel free to get involved with Project PM. We're at irc.project-pm.org


On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your quick response. I didn't expect it, to be honest.

I hear what you are saying, and it makes sense. As someone who has been involved with this shit since chanology, and who keeps running into newfags who, once they learn about how anonymous (i use the term loosely- encompassing the offshoots) works, suddenly start dictating how things should be run. (Something that afflicts every group from Occupy to lessons learned from Orwells' "Animal Farm, to  your basic rock bands I know, but I don't know how else to portray it.)

It is hard for me to know who to trust, and not in a "who do i trust with my deepest secrets, lolz" type of way, more of a "who's info do i buy as legit, whose info do i even begin to rely on in order to get anything done."

Have you heard anything about Anonops itself being corrupted? I have heard whispers, and yet, of course, that is all they are.

I decided to reach out to you mainly due to reading the pastebins of your conversations with Emick - I have no tolerance for, as I've said, personal b.s and families being targeted with no real reason.

Can I ask you, are you aware of someone by the name of Timm Wheeler? He seems to be a target of many and the underlying vibe of the whole thing is that he is collecting information to sell to undesirables. It's not something I am too worried about right now, however I have been told to be wary.

I hope you are doing well Barrett.
<3 evie







On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Unfortunately, the same factors that allowed Anonymous to bring in people and work dynamically are also at play here. There's little quality control, and thus those who are here to contribute to reasonable causes find themselves having to deal with those who are here because they enjoy feeling a sense of collective power. It attracts the best and the worst, sort of like an army or a government. 

There's nothing I can do about this other than to promote the notion that the actual work might be better conducted via smaller cells that cooperate among one another in a loose association, and which run themselves however they see fit, sort of like how the U.S. state "laboratory system" was intended - tactics and methods of organization that prove viable can be widely adapted. This is why the campaign against the intelligence contractors is run out of Project PM's IRC, rather than Anonops, where it started.


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Barrett,

Let me first say I admire and completely support what you are doing with Project PM and the like. I've been following your work since you first came to light and I really think you are one of the few people brave enough to risk shit in the name of exposing corruption, truth, whatever you want to call it.

Certain Ops are being sabotaged currently, lives are being put at risk in the name of egos and I thought I would reach out to you, to see if this is something you've noticed as well.

One of the most important aspects of our work, being making sure those in government-inflicted turmoil have access to secure servers, the ability to communicate anonymously, and even to access the internet by bypassing firewalls, is so important, and something I've been directly involved in, and it crushes me to see this be deliberately compromised because of personal vendettas, and worse.

People's very lives are being put at stake because of ignorant fuckheads putting their egos above ops.. of course all groups get corrupted but it really pisses me off of late.

I wish I had more to say, and I apologize for wasting your time as I know you have bigger fish to fry, but I thought why not, might as well see if you have any input.

I would also be keen to help, anyway I can. I used to pop in to your tinychats but I have noticed they don't occur as often.

I hope you are staying safe and doing o.k.

We are the same age, welcome to 30. lol. :)

<3
evie



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