Re: the downfall of anonymous

why do you include your phone number in your messages i am just curious seems risky idk :(

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:

i get that... thinking of gates as a sexual being is frightening to say the least. XD

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

The picture kind of distracts from the words. It's kind of disturbing.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:

yeah i for sure will. believe me, it is a huge priority of mine, although i am still highly involved in syria right now i still cannot believe the way it is consistently ignored. on a daily basis.

no sense of humor then at my meme? lol ok :)

-evie

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

Things are going to be kind of quiet at Project PM right now because a lot of us are also working on Bahrain, particularly the effort to bring attention to the PR firm Qorvis, which has represented the regime for last few years (https://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Qorvis). You should check out irc.voxanon.net channels #voxanon and #opbahrain.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:

me right now at this moment trying to navigate irc on linux he's tempting me:

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

It varies wildly, and depends less on time of day than it does on other factors. It's best just to "idle" there. Mostly what we do is add to the wiki at echelon2.org, which is currently the only repository of its kind on the intelligence contracting industry, and work with journalists and activists who want to know more about the problem.

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:

I will. I absolutely will check it out. I'm fed up to be real, with anonymous in general. What times would you say the pm irc is most active?

Thanks for being such a transparent person really, the less ego and more real talk, the better.

<3 evie

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

Although there's always gossip, Anonops having been somehow infiltrated is something I've heard from people I've come to rely on, particularly lately. But Anonops is largely useless now anyway and nothing compared to what it was a year ago. I don't remember hearing of anyone named Tim Wheeler.

Feel free to get involved with Project PM. We're at irc.project-pm.org

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for your quick response. I didn't expect it, to be honest.

I hear what you are saying, and it makes sense. As someone who has been involved with this shit since chanology, and who keeps running into newfags who, once they learn about how anonymous (i use the term loosely- encompassing the offshoots) works, suddenly start dictating how things should be run. (Something that afflicts every group from Occupy to lessons learned from Orwells' "Animal Farm, to your basic rock bands I know, but I don't know how else to portray it.)

It is hard for me to know who to trust, and not in a "who do i trust with my deepest secrets, lolz" type of way, more of a "who's info do i buy as legit, whose info do i even begin to rely on in order to get anything done."

Have you heard anything about Anonops itself being corrupted? I have heard whispers, and yet, of course, that is all they are.

I decided to reach out to you mainly due to reading the pastebins of your conversations with Emick - I have no tolerance for, as I've said, personal b.s and families being targeted with no real reason.

Can I ask you, are you aware of someone by the name of Timm Wheeler? He seems to be a target of many and the underlying vibe of the whole thing is that he is collecting information to sell to undesirables. It's not something I am too worried about right now, however I have been told to be wary.

I hope you are doing well Barrett.
<3 evie

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

Unfortunately, the same factors that allowed Anonymous to bring in people and work dynamically are also at play here. There's little quality control, and thus those who are here to contribute to reasonable causes find themselves having to deal with those who are here because they enjoy feeling a sense of collective power. It attracts the best and the worst, sort of like an army or a government.

There's nothing I can do about this other than to promote the notion that the actual work might be better conducted via smaller cells that cooperate among one another in a loose association, and which run themselves however they see fit, sort of like how the U.S. state "laboratory system" was intended - tactics and methods of organization that prove viable can be widely adapted. This is why the campaign against the intelligence contractors is run out of Project PM's IRC, rather than Anonops, where it started.

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Evie Mercer <mercerevie@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Barrett,

Let me first say I admire and completely support what you are doing with Project PM and the like. I've been following your work since you first came to light and I really think you are one of the few people brave enough to risk shit in the name of exposing corruption, truth, whatever you want to call it.

Certain Ops are being sabotaged currently, lives are being put at risk in the name of egos and I thought I would reach out to you, to see if this is something you've noticed as well.

One of the most important aspects of our work, being making sure those in government-inflicted turmoil have access to secure servers, the ability to communicate anonymously, and even to access the internet by bypassing firewalls, is so important, and something I've been directly involved in, and it crushes me to see this be deliberately compromised because of personal vendettas, and worse.

People's very lives are being put at stake because of ignorant fuckheads putting their egos above ops.. of course all groups get corrupted but it really pisses me off of late.

I wish I had more to say, and I apologize for wasting your time as I know you have bigger fish to fry, but I thought why not, might as well see if you have any input.

I would also be keen to help, anyway I can. I used to pop in to your tinychats but I have noticed they don't occur as often.

I hope you are staying safe and doing o.k.

We are the same age, welcome to 30. lol. :)

<3
evie

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