Re: My edits

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

The interview to which I'm referring was indeed done by Kayla, as I talked to Kayla about it a few days later. Also, when Kayla took down rootkit.com, they left a message saying "<3 Kayla" on the site deface. And Kayla is in various logs, including the discussion we all had with Penny/Greg/Aaron, gloating over it. So there's no doubt that a persona calling itself Kayla did these things, regardless of who's just been arrested. But if you still don't want Kayla's name coming up, let me know; the thing is we'll probably need to know in advance to what extent you're not going to want other people's screennames coming up in relation to things, as we're supposed to be presenting characters and developing narratives based on their actions (which doesn't mean we have to narc out people for things that aren't public, but when anyone can Google those screennames and find articles and other evidence that they've done those things, we're going to need to address them as well).

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Gregg Housh <greggatghc@gmail.com> wrote:
You have valid points, but the one thing you have to remember is that there is absolutely NO proof that Kayla did those interviews. Zero, and most of the information in them could easily have been gotten from already public information. And being that those interviews are not even close to proven as real, my account would be the only one in print that is backed up by someone/something saying it is 100% true, who has first hand knowledge of it. That is why I saw it as problematic. In fact,, I was around when kayla said a few times that only one of the few interviews was actually her/him.

So I dont know how to approach it then?

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

I'll take care of most of these edits in the morning. But regarding the portions on Kayla and Topiary - both of these figures have already publicly admitted their role in the HBGary hack a number of times. Kayla even did a whole interview on "her" role, giving more details than we provide here. So not only does this not add to any legal problems they're facing - it also refrains from noting all the details that are already publicly known on these incidents from the various articles that have appeared. All in all, by noting their particular roles in such a way that reveals no new information, we are doing absolutely nothing to hurt them. And since we're doing a book that is predicated on providing an inside view of Anonymous, it would be problematic going forward if we're not even willing to add important information that is already on public record. And of course I say all this as someone who is also friendly with Topiary and many of the other people we're going to be writing about. Let me know if this makes sense.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Gregg Housh <greggatghc@gmail.com> wrote:
I have attached the last version of the proposal that was sent to me today, the one that I read and used to come up with this list of edits. I doubt either of you need it, but I wanted to make sure everyone knew what file I read to come up with these edits.

Some of these edits were already given and hadn't actually made it in yet. But all of them need to be addressed, including a couple show stoppers. So please get to these edits before it goes out.

I have attached the notes as a text file. I am absolute no good with all these damn word processors or any of their interesting annotation/edit features. So its a text file and it has them all in order.

Gregg

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