me: http://message.anonops.in/ Gabriella: Oh! Gabriella: Shitstorm, I've spoken to him before... Gabriella: And I'v heard people mention this Ryan guy.. me: It's just Ryan that pulled the shit me: and a couple others Gabriella: Why? me: they're douchebags me: Ryan and other ops considered themselves to be the true "leaders" of Anonymous me: by virtue of running the IRC me: and thus hated me for being considered by press and some Anons as the moving force Gabriella: isn't that against the whole..' no leader no hierarchy' theme ? me: also they had other conflicts, stupid troll shit; a lot of the people at Anonops are emotionally disturbed and/or worthless me: Anon has always had leaders me: Chanology was launched and organized by a few people me: including Gregg Housh and Commissar me: who delegated responsibilities to those identified as having leadership capabilities in their particular city or region me: it's just largely invisible Gabriella: Okeyy.... that's not the impression I had. Well I understodd there are people organizing but I though the whole 'no leader, we're in this together' was sort of the main theme.. me: and of course most Anons prefer to think of themselves as equals of everyone else me: most operations are launched and pursued by a couple of people who do most of the work, delegate responsibility, etc, though it's informal, and of course there is a degree of self-organization Gabriella: So now when Ryan is angry(?) does that mean ihe's got Anons on his side and there's a division? me: nope me: he just sabotaged a bunch of shit with the help of a couple of his friends me: I don't know much about them all, never really interacted with the admins Gabriella: Ah ok. Well this is very interesting. Would like to have this as a small mention in my documentary... perhaps.. So this is why I haven't been able to log into IRC via anono.ps. What happens if I visit the site, what can happen? me: no idea me: many have moved to irc.anonworld.net #anonworld me: but I've recruited many of the capable moralfags into my own loose network anyway me: There are too many amoral, disturbed degenerates running around in Anonymous Gabriella: OK... Gabriella: Do you know who Gabriella Coleman is? me: yep, met her a few weeks back me: she's spent a lot of time watching us and wrote a very good piece explaining how Anonymous actually works Gabriella: cool, I'm talking to her tomorrow! Gabriella: Have you heard anything new from FBI?