[21:40] 	ShadowDXS	hello
[21:41] 	asherah	hey
[21:41] 	ShadowDXS	 so whats up?
[21:42] 	asherah	so, that was a real fed hotline I gave BB
[21:42] 	asherah	one set up at my request
[21:42] 	ShadowDXS	yeah i know
[21:42] 	ShadowDXS	he called it
[21:42] 	ShadowDXS	he said dumb shit
[21:42] 	asherah	I know
[21:42] 	ShadowDXS	i wanna call it
[21:42] 	ShadowDXS	and tell the dude
[21:42] 	asherah	no ya don't
[21:42] 	ShadowDXS	he was full of shit
[21:42] 	ShadowDXS	yes i do
[21:42] 	ShadowDXS	really bad
[21:42] 	asherah	dude knows
[21:42] 	ShadowDXS	i have shit i wanna say to him
[21:42] 	asherah	he called me after for translation
[21:43] 	ShadowDXS	im not gonna go to jail for the shit i have done
[21:43] 	asherah	let me ask if he's cool with it
[21:43] 	ShadowDXS	i could gives a fuck less about it
[21:43] 	asherah	if so, I'll give it to you
[21:43] 	asherah	I have to account for who calls him
[21:43] 	ShadowDXS	right
[21:43] 	ShadowDXS	i understand
[21:43] 	asherah	if there's a free for all he may get annoyed with me :D
[21:43] 	ShadowDXS	right
[22:24] 	ShadowDXS	anything on this number?
[22:26] 	namshub	tomorrow dude
[22:26] 	namshub	even I can't call a fed at ten at night :P
[22:27] 	ShadowDXS	meh
[22:27] 	namshub	sorry, thought that was obvious
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	i forget what time is
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	never like the thing
[22:28] 	namshub	it can wait a day?
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	oh yeah
[22:28] 	namshub	ok, good
[22:28] 	namshub	yeah, guy has a day job
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	i'm not that worried about it, just didnt know if
you meant now or later
[22:28] 	namshub	and he is real decent
[22:28] 	namshub	and BB already annoyed the shit outta him
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	wow
[22:28] 	namshub	yeah
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	i cut his mic off after 2 mins of him talking to him
[22:29] 	ShadowDXS	dude is like a fucking robot tard
[22:29] 	namshub	I gave him the line and he went straight in with
"hey, is fakegregghoush jennifer emrick?" like a fuicking jackass with
a death wiush
[22:29] 	ShadowDXS	i really dont see why BB is so scared about Backtrace
[22:29] 	ShadowDXS	i dont even care if your apart of it
[22:29] 	namshub	why wouldn't he be?
[22:30] 	ShadowDXS	the name itself is a fucking meme for the love of god
[22:30] 	ShadowDXS	the info they posted
[22:30] 	ShadowDXS	dont mean anything
[22:30] 	namshub	the name wa spicked for a reason, sure
[22:30] 	ShadowDXS	but Anonymous is like: OMFG THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE
[22:30] 	namshub	but the info- was not meaningless
[22:30] 	namshub	lol
[22:30] 	namshub	several ano9ns have been whisked away
[22:31] 	namshub	there's a reson the smart ones stfu
[22:31] 	ShadowDXS	Anonymous used the mask as a symbol, and the new
kids dont know what that means
[22:31] 	ShadowDXS	its meant to say: we stand together. Not: Hide your ass
[22:31] 	namshub	lol
[22:31] 	namshub	maybe, yeah
[22:31] 	ShadowDXS	this is why i hate what Anonymous is
[22:31] 	namshub	yeah
[22:31] 	namshub	problem is
[22:32] 	namshub	in the end, they're just another mob
[22:32] 	ShadowDXS	if the LOIC kids left, and the troll's and the
tards (BB) all left
[22:32] 	ShadowDXS	then we would be good
[22:32] 	ShadowDXS	but
[22:32] 	ShadowDXS	till that happens
[22:32] 	namshub	there's worse than them
[22:32] 	ShadowDXS	i will not be apart of anonymous
[22:32] 	namshub	a core of opportunists
[22:32] 	namshub	who talk a lot about the evil bak system
[22:32] 	namshub	as a cover
[22:32] 	namshub	for nasty shit
[22:32] 	namshub	and those folks
[22:32] 	namshub	will go down HARD
[22:33] 	namshub	and woe to anyone swept up with them
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	i dont even see why this Backtrace gives a shit
about Anonymous
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	really
[22:33] 	namshub	and tht metalgear stupidity
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	i think its a waste of time
[22:33] 	namshub	because they thought they were invincible
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	the metalgear shit is something different
[22:33] 	namshub	what better opportunity to demonstrate otherwise?
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	its not a LOIC op
[22:33] 	namshub	metalgear is a fantasy
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	prove it
[22:34] 	namshub	BUT
[22:34] 	namshub	I can't
[22:34] 	namshub	not without giving stuff away
[22:34] 	ShadowDXS	then dont speak about it XD
[22:34] 	namshub	but it's conspiracy theory
[22:34] 	namshub	opnopro
[22:34] 	namshub	is a pro spammer
[22:34] 	namshub	I will speak about it
[22:34] 	namshub	because there is a real chance
[22:34] 	namshub	their blundering around may expose real operatives
doing real NS work
[22:35] 	ShadowDXS	what BB does, and what I and others do on OpMG is
two ttly different things
[22:35] 	ShadowDXS	what he does
[22:35] 	ShadowDXS	is for the press
[22:35] 	ShadowDXS	what we are looking for
[22:35] 	namshub	the pentagon is not filled with evil jerks trying to
spy on ordinary people
[22:35] 	ShadowDXS	something else :D
[22:35] 	namshub	the stasi already showed the futility of such attempts
[22:36] 	namshub	well, believe mme or not, it doesn't exist
[22:36] 	namshub	and that comes from the ppl who are accused of cooking it up
[22:36] 	namshub	:P
[22:36] 	namshub	their only worry
[22:36] 	namshub	is that BB in his blundering about
[22:37] 	namshub	might expose anti-jihadis and other ppl working for
us interests
[22:37] 	namshub	I think we proved already that gathering intel on
people is easy
[22:37] 	ShadowDXS	true
[22:37] 	namshub	does not require sock puppet armies or any other silliness
[22:37] 	ShadowDXS	also true
[22:38] 	namshub	in fewer than three weeks with na cold start and no "ins"
[22:38] 	namshub	we got enough to hang the core of anonops
[22:38] 	namshub	the idea they'd go through such ridiculous effort and expense
[22:38] 	ShadowDXS	the funny thing is, i dont see the FBI doing much
about what they have
[22:38] 	namshub	when they didn't even know wtf anonymous really was
until a month ago
[22:38] 	namshub	well, it's a joke
[22:39] 	namshub	the FBI are working hard
[22:39] 	ShadowDXS	i think the whole thing is a joke
[22:39] 	ShadowDXS	BT,Anon and the Feds
[22:39] 	ShadowDXS	as well as what drama jester had
[22:39] 	ShadowDXS	most of the anonymous members that matter never
touch IRC servers
[22:39] 	namshub	well, anons make drama out of pointless stuff
[22:39] 	namshub	they don't realize
[22:39] 	ShadowDXS	Trollnonymous does
[22:40] 	ShadowDXS	yes
[22:40] 	namshub	that the FBI have beauracrats
[22:40] 	namshub	and they are not stupid
[22:40] 	namshub	they just have to be scrupulous
[22:40] 	namshub	a lot of the dox we got
[22:40] 	namshub	thatb we thought was original
[22:40] 	ShadowDXS	what most fail to realize, is that if you really
wanna nab Anonymous by the balls, look for who not there, not those
that are
[22:41] 	namshub	only confirmed what they knew already
[22:41] 	ShadowDXS	i really think the IRC servers are just a front
[22:41] 	namshub	what i'm saying is, they know a lot
[22:41] 	ShadowDXS	i bet they do
[22:41] 	ShadowDXS	but
[22:41] 	namshub	they're just slow to put the evidence on apeper and move in
[22:41] 	namshub	paper
[22:41] 	ShadowDXS	and that will hurt them
[22:41] 	namshub	and this time people fucked up bad
[22:41] 	ShadowDXS	they will get some small fry kids if they dont hurry up
[22:42] 	namshub	esp threatening infrastucture and bansk
[22:42] 	ShadowDXS	all the big fish will swim away
[22:42] 	namshub	banks
[22:42] 	namshub	nah
[22:42] 	namshub	some have been reeled in
[22:42] 	namshub	I can't discuss
[22:42] 	ShadowDXS	some
[22:42] 	namshub	but there's a reason behind some recent diappearances
[22:42] 	ShadowDXS	Topair was not apart of that :D
[22:42] 	namshub	and little fishes tattle on big fishes
[22:42] 	namshub	topiary is like BB
[22:43] 	namshub	a mouth
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	yup
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	you seen his facebook?
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	xD
[22:43] 	namshub	they got his id already
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	dude is a radio head
[22:43] 	namshub	don't think they care about him unless tyhey need him squealing
[22:43] 	namshub	radio head?
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	i'm glad to here they are not wasting their time with him
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	dude is a DJ or something
[22:44] 	ShadowDXS	talk radio
[22:44] 	ShadowDXS	i think
[22:44] 	namshub	nah, they have a list
[22:44] 	namshub	tbh they're not even much interested in BB, although
I hear cali feds are
[22:44] 	namshub	lol
[22:45] 	ShadowDXS	dude has warrants
[22:45] 	namshub	yeah, but there are several fed investigations
[22:45] 	namshub	I am not assisting them all
[22:45] 	ShadowDXS	xD
[22:46] 	namshub	that said
[22:46] 	namshub	BB is not scott free
[22:46] 	namshub	he has attention fromk worse than feds
[22:46] 	namshub	and if I was you
[22:46] 	namshub	honest in jun
[22:46] 	namshub	I would steer way clear
[22:46] 	namshub	remember when jester had an influx of dc ips?
[22:46] 	namshub	that anons thought was aaron barr?
[22:47] 	ShadowDXS	yeah
[22:47] 	namshub	wadn't
[22:47] 	namshub	wasn't
[22:47] 	namshub	sorry, it's dark in here
[22:47] 	ShadowDXS	get a light bish
[22:47] 	ShadowDXS	xD
[22:47] 	namshub	lol
[22:47] 	namshub	eventually
[22:47] 	namshub	I have one, but it's no help
[22:48] 	namshub	anyway
[22:48] 	namshub	tldr is
[22:48] 	namshub	bb has all the attention he thought he wanted
[22:48] 	namshub	due to his quantico escapades
[22:48] 	namshub	that's all i can say
[22:48] 	namshub	I like you
[22:48] 	namshub	so...be careful
[22:48] 	ShadowDXS	well do
[22:48] 	namshub	can't stress enough
[22:49] 	namshub	that dude, not safe to be around
[22:49] 	ShadowDXS	trust me, i know
[22:49] 	namshub	and not due to his grand delusions re metalgear
[22:49] 	namshub	metalgear=crap
[22:49] 	namshub	none of that ever happened
[22:49] 	namshub	it's all 100% make believe
[22:50] 	namshub	not that they wouldn't like that sort of granular control maybe
[22:50] 	namshub	but it hasn't happened
[22:50] 	namshub	and would be fully illegal if it did
[22:50] 	ShadowDXS	right
[22:52] 	namshub	of course the problem is i can't prove it without
running my mouth about shit people don'ty generally believe anyhow
[22:54] 	ShadowDXS	well
[22:54] 	ShadowDXS	either prove it or shush then :D
[22:56] 	namshub	can't prove that nay more than i can prove the easter
bunny is a fraud
[22:56] 	namshub	it's more two plus three equals potato
[22:56] 	namshub	but I have had contact with some of the folks who are
accused of running such a thing
[22:57] 	namshub	and they are not only baffled but completely internet
illiterate old people
[23:00] 	namshub	believe me when i say companies get jobs they don't
qualify for based on how slow the gov't is to get caught up
[23:04] 	ShadowDXS	O_o
[23:05] 	namshub	tl;dr is, the higher up yopu go, the older the folks you get
[23:05] 	namshub	they're all ex-military
[23:05] 	namshub	they know zip about internets
[23:05] 	namshub	let aone how to exploit
[23:06] 	namshub	occasionally a sec company will sing a pretty song
and get a nibble
[23:06] 	namshub	someday, I'll tell ya baout some of these fools
[23:06] 	namshub	metalgear and the like could only happen if all
parties were both devious, super competent, and willing
[23:07] 	namshub	it would NEVER happen
[23:07] 	namshub	One of us (backtrace)
[23:07] 	namshub	has been offered fed jobs spying on terrorists
[23:07] 	namshub	after ya know, catching a few red handed
[23:08] 	namshub	job offers pay less than managing a mickey d's