Subject: RE: Gamma International
From: "Steve Ragan" <security@thetechherald.com>
Date: 4/27/11, 06:13
To: "'Barrett Brown'" <barriticus@gmail.com>

http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201117/7115/Report-U-K-firm-offered
-IT-intrusion-tools-to-Egyptian-government

It went live at 6a.m. EST.

-Steve

Steve Ragan
Security Editor - The Tech Herald
Phone: 317-348-1281
Email: security@thetechherald.com
Web: http://www.thetechherald.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Barrett Brown [mailto:barriticus@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:48 PM
To: Steve Ragan
Subject: Re: Gamma International

Wonderful. I'll send the link around, particularly to the 
other journalists, and will make use of whatever you find on 
our wiki. Meanwhile I'm "growing" a campaign by which to put 
pressure on this firm and in doing so to hopefully bring more 
attention to the fact that this sort of thing goes on. As 
always, I appreciate your work on this issue.


On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Steve Ragan 
<security@thetechherald.com> wrote:


	So you know I am working the story now for publication tomorrow.
	
	-Steve
	
	Steve Ragan
	Security Editor - The Tech Herald
	Phone: 317-348-1281
	Email: security@thetechherald.com
	Web: http://www.thetechherald.com
	
	
	>-----Original Message-----
	>From: Barrett Brown [mailto:barriticus@gmail.com]
	
	>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:13 PM
	>To: Steve Ragan
	>Subject: Re: Gamma International
	>
	>Johnny Debs is the marketing manager for Gamma Group, their
	>umbrella - which also sells surveillance vans, which we find
	>hilarious since many of us now have to deal with those things.
	>Note that they'll be at three conferences between now 
and October.
	>
	>http://www.issworldtraining.com/ISS_WASH/track2.html
	>
	>
	>On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Steve Ragan
	><security@thetechherald.com> wrote:
	>
	>
	>       Epic! Keep the good work coming. Let me know if the
	>translator wants their
	>       15 min of fame out of this. I will gladly list them in
	>the story as helping
	>       with the investigation.
	>       Also, talked to Ben, good guy and he said he would
	>share. (I've no problems
	>       sharing things with him.)
	>
	>       -Steve
	>
	>       Steve Ragan
	>       Security Editor - The Tech Herald
	>       Phone: 317-348-1281
	>       Email: security@thetechherald.com
	>       Web: http://www.thetechherald.com
	>
	>
	>       >-----Original Message-----
	>       >From: Barrett Brown [mailto:barriticus@gmail.com]
	>
	>       >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:53 PM
	>       >To: Steve Ragan
	>       >Subject: Re: Gamma International
	>       >
	>
	>       >Howdy-
	>       >
	>       >Just spoke to Elgin at Bloomberg whom I came 
across from this,
	>       >which is interesting itself:
	>       >
	>       
http://www.forensicfocus.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtop
	>       >ic&t=5765
	>       >
	>       >He says they have a translation of the doc 
they had done, he's
	>       >going to send to me, but in the meantime our 
translator has
	>       >done this version:
	>       >
	>       
http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjustanegyptian.f
	>       iles.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F03%2Fssi.pdf&embedded=true
	>       >
	>       >On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Steve Ragan
	>       ><security@thetechherald.com> wrote:
	>       >
	>       >
	>       >       Oh yea. I had it from a different 
source, but that's
	>       >the same document. The
	>       >       end is a proposal, what they would 
charge should they
	>       >order. The fact that
	>       >       it was proposed at all is bad. Yet, my 
story will take
	>       >another angle, due to
	>       >       what the software can do. Tunisia 
anyone? If she can
	>       >translate it, I can
	>       >       offer her full credit for the work in the story,
	>       >assuming she wants to be
	>       >       named.
	>       >
	>       >
	>       >
	>       >       -Steve
	>       >
	>       >       Steve Ragan
	>       >       Security Editor - The Tech Herald
	>       >       Phone: 317-348-1281
	>       >       Email: security@thetechherald.com
	>       >       Web: http://www.thetechherald.com
	>       >
	>       >
	>       >       >-----Original Message-----
	>       >       >From: Barrett Brown 
[mailto:barriticus@gmail.com]
	>       >
	>       >       >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:31 PM
	>       >       >To: Steve Ragan
	>       >       >Subject: Re: Gamma International
	>       >       >
	>       >       >We have an old Arab woman doing so now in our
	>video conference
	>       >       >room. Will let you know when she's done.
	>Assuming you're
	>       >       >looking at this:
	>       >
	
http://www.scribd.com/doc/50621637/50105199-Gamma-s-Anti-Skype-
	>       >       >Finfisher-Spy-Software
	>       >       >
	>       >       >Notice the end, in English. They 
ordered the software.
	>       >       >
	>       >       >On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Steve Ragan
	>       >       ><security@thetechherald.com> wrote:
	>       >       >
	>       >       >
	>       >       >       Do you know of anyone who can read
	>Arabic and translate
	>       >       >an entire PDF full
	>       >       >       of images?
	>       >       >
	>       >       >       -Steve
	>       >       >
	>       >       >       Steve Ragan
	>       >       >       Security Editor - The Tech Herald
	>       >       >       Phone: 317-348-1281
	>       >       >       Email: security@thetechherald.com
	>       >       >       Web: http://www.thetechherald.com
	>       >       >
	>       >       >
	>       >       >       >-----Original Message-----
	>       >       >       >From: Barrett Brown
	>[mailto:barriticus@gmail.com]
	>       >       >
	>       >       >       >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:56 PM
	>       >       >       >To: Steve Ragan
	>       >       >       >Subject: Re: Gamma International
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >Great, thanks. We're adding info here
	>as we find it:
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >
	>>http://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Gamma_International
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:33 
PM, Steve Ragan
	>       >       >       ><security@thetechherald.com> wrote:
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       Look forward to seeing 
what you turn
	>       >up. I will do some
	>       >       >       >digging on them
	>       >       >       >       tonight. If I find anything
	>       >interesting, I'll share.
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       -Steve
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       Steve Ragan
	>       >       >       >       Security Editor - The 
Tech Herald
	>       >       >       >       Phone: 317-348-1281
	>       >       >       >       Email: 
security@thetechherald.com
	>       >       >       >       Web: 
http://www.thetechherald.com
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >-----Original Message-----
	>       >       >       >       >From: Barrett Brown
	>       >[mailto:barriticus@gmail.com]
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >Sent: Tuesday, April 
26, 2011 5:14 PM
	>       >       >       >       >To: Steve Ragan
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >Subject: Re: Gamma 
International
	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >I haven't been keeping up to
	>date/involved
	>       >       >with OpSony, but
	>       >       >       >       >interesting to hear. I'm going
	>to be looking
	>       >       >into this Gamma
	>       >       >       >       >company with an eye 
towards making an
	>       >example of them.
	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:10
	>PM, Steve Ragan
	>       >       >       >       
<security@thetechherald.com> wrote:
	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >       Oh....well. Now that is
	>interesting.
	>       >       >       >       >       Off topic...Sony
	>confirmed a data
	>       >       >breach into their
	>       >       >       >       >network, account
	>       >       >       >       >       information was 
compromised....
	>       >       >       >       >       -Steve
	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >       Steve Ragan
	>       >       >       >       >       Security Editor - The
	>Tech Herald
	>       >       >       >       >       Phone: 317-348-1281
	>       >       >       >       >       Email:
	>security@thetechherald.com
	>       >       >       >       >       Web:
	>http://www.thetechherald.com
	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >       >-----Original 
Message-----
	>       >       >       >       >       >From: Barrett Brown
	>       >       >[mailto:barriticus@gmail.com]
	>       >       >       >       >       >Sent: Tuesday, April
	>26, 2011 5:07 PM
	>       >       >       >       >       >To: Steve Ragan
	>       >       >       >       >       >Subject: Gamma 
International
	>       >       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >
	>
	
http://www.itpro.co.uk/633049/brit-firm-implicated-in-mubarak
	>       >       >       >-snooping
	>       >       >       >       >       >
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	>       >       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >       >Barrett Brown
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	>       >       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >       >Barrett Brown
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	>       >       >       >
	>       >       >       >Barrett Brown
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	>       >       >Barrett Brown
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	>       >Barrett Brown
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	>Barrett Brown
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Barrett Brown
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