Session Start: Sat Apr 09 12:10:11 2011 Session Ident: #uscybercom 00[12:10] * Disconnected 00[14:25] * Attempting to rejoin channel #uscybercom 03[14:25] * Rejoined channel #uscybercom 03[14:25] * Topic is 'US Cyber Command'
03[14:25] * Set by ChanServ!services@2600.net on Tue Apr 05 03:59:35 11[14:25] -sid- [#jesterspub] Where's my scooby snacks? 11[14:25] -sid- [#uscybercom] This is a secure channel for Ops and Half-Ops of #jester Only. Please do not discuss anything in this channel in channel #jester.
03[14:25] * sid sets mode: +o Cephurs [14:25] <@mach> hahahaha 00[14:27] <@Cephurs> muahahaha [14:27] <@Kalypto> People are natuarly skepticle though and thats what makes life interesting...
[14:27] <@mach> hi ceph! :) 00[14:27] <@Cephurs> hello mach, Kal, #usc [14:28] <@Kalypto> Heya Cephasaurus Rex 06[14:29] * @Kalypto sure seems to know how to kill a conversation 00[14:30] <@Cephurs> lol,
00[14:30] <@Cephurs> not kal, you are the inspiration to most conversation! [14:30] <@Kalypto> lol... We're doomed. [14:34] <@tyrdr0p> Cephurs: He apparently doesn't want to talk to you. o.O
00[14:36] <@Cephurs> lol [14:37] <@Kalypto> Wow, I am leaving #2600 before I nerd rage on him 03[14:38] * Cephurs is now known as wtf [14:39] <@tyrdr0p> He's a fucking faggot piece of shit. I literally had to back away for a moment before I went apeshit
[14:39] <@mach> Is bb in the pub? [14:39] <@tyrdr0p> No [14:39] <@tyrdr0p> #2600 [14:40] <@Sonar_Guy> lol [14:40] <@mach> lol [14:40] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I think his ass is too sore from the boots to come back in J's channels
[14:41] <@mach> I doubt it, he's not one for social cues. [14:41] <@Sonar_Guy> I think that explains his rage in the pastebin, he is Butthurt!! [14:42] <@tyrdr0p> xD [14:43] <@Sonar_Guy> afk back in a few
[14:48] <@tyrdr0p> BarrettBrown is in the pub. AnonymousDown, mach, Kalypto, Sonar_Guy wtf 00[14:52] <@wtf> exactly right sonarguy [14:55] <@tyrdr0p> wtf/Cephurs: Is Barrett talking about anything useful?
00[14:57] <@wtf> he's butthurt [14:57] <@mach> haha - I'll only go if you op me and I can kick him randomly. :D 00[14:57] <@wtf> mach, did i miss were you and your daughter were targeted?
[14:57] <@mach> Otherwise, it's best I don't go. 00[14:58] <@wtf> that's what he's talking about, says that the pb yesterday explained it??? [14:59] <@mach> I don't think he was refering to us, I think he was talking about when his gf and her daughter were going to get doxed.
[14:59] <@mach> Although, I was almost comatose by the 2nd sentence so not really sure what circle he was talking. [15:00] <@mach> If he's targeting us, I demand kosher pizza. [15:01] <@mach> But here's something... real_cheese is targeting me and works very closely with bb.
03[15:08] * mach is now known as fobb [15:09] <@fobb> don't tell - don't talk much to me [15:12] <@fobb> that was boring 03[15:12] * fobb is now known as mach [15:12] <@tyrdr0p> You gotta change your Ident mach. LOL!
[15:12] <@tyrdr0p> fobb (~mach@109.123.119.163) has joined #jesterspub [15:13] <@mach> I know, but I didn't feel like making the effort. Fobb stands for fuck off barrett brown.
[15:13] <@tyrdr0p> xD [15:14] <@mach> I was just going to say boo in the middle of his wall of txt but it was silent. no fun. [15:15] <@mach> Odd though, that many people in there an complete silence? Did it stop when I came in or is it like that?
[15:17] <@tyrdr0p> Atluxity (~atluxity@122.79-160-7.customer.lyse.net) has joined #2600 <<<< Why is that familiar? [15:17] <@tyrdr0p> It's been like that mach
[15:18] <@mach> ?? no clue [15:20] <@Sonar_Guy> tyrdr0p: there were in #jester mid Feb then quit coming [15:21] <@tyrdr0p> That's what I thought. Okay. 00[15:27] <@wtf> forry fobb, i was busy educating his drug addled brain
00[15:27] <@wtf> lol 00[15:27] <@wtf> just read what fobb stands for [15:28] <@mach> hahaha 00[15:28] <@wtf> lol 00[15:28] <@wtf> he's crying about it already [15:29] <@mach> waaaaaah
[15:31] <@Sonar_Guy> lol [15:32] <@mach> [21:30] <BarrettBrown> sorry, sweetheart, looks like you're not in charge here [15:32] <@mach> Somebody op me - please [15:32] <@Sonar_Guy> No!
[15:33] <@Sonar_Guy> thats what Pub is for to have fun and discussions with people and not disrupt #jester [15:33] <@mach> !!!!!!!!!! [15:33] <@tyrdr0p> Wasn't this what you wanted. #jester is Non-anon
[15:33] <@tyrdr0p> #jesterspub is anyone welcome [15:34] <@mach> Yes - but not to take any shit from the likes of him. [15:34] <@tyrdr0p> You got a beef with him, then invite him to #jester, hash it out, then boot him.
[15:34] <@tyrdr0p> This is the sorta drama I personally am getting tired of. [15:34] <@mach> No - I want to hash it out with him in the pub [15:34] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: you have the option to leave #jesterspub
[15:34] <@mach> and I want my op while I to it. [15:35] <@Sonar_Guy> NO! [15:35] <@mach> Why the hell not? [15:35] <@Sonar_Guy> that was not the understanding! [15:35] <@Sonar_Guy> You wanted it that way, You deal with it!
[15:36] <@mach> And what are you going to do for me in my defense then? [15:36] <@Sonar_Guy> You started it deal with it. [15:37] <@tyrdr0p> How many times do you need kicked out before you take the hint? <<<< You sent him that?
[15:37] <@mach> I did not in any way say that guys like that could never be confronted in the pub [15:37] <@mach> Yes, I did. He's not welcome. [15:37] <@Sonar_Guy> you can confront him. Just not with op
[15:37] <@mach> why not? [15:37] <@Sonar_Guy> fair playing field [15:37] <@mach> Why are you suddenly in charge of me? [15:38] <@tyrdr0p> You wanted it this way mach [15:38] <@mach> I'd rethink that.
[15:38] <@Sonar_Guy> its not, you asked to be removed off the ops list [15:38] <@tyrdr0p> Rethink? [15:38] <@tyrdr0p> Wait [15:38] <@tyrdr0p> WAIT [15:38] <@mach> from auto op
[15:38] <@tyrdr0p> That was was rather threatening. [15:38] <@tyrdr0p> IMO [15:38] <@Sonar_Guy> No should I pull up the logs where you said if you did not like it you would leave this channel? 00[15:38] <@wtf> lol mach
[15:39] <@mach> brb [15:39] <@Sonar_Guy> You have a choice now, you can go to #jester and be BB free now! 00[15:40] <@wtf> amen, change yer nick and come on in if ya want, or screw it just come in as mach. I think your plan is brilliant, and #jester is cleaning up nicely
[15:40] <@tyrdr0p> ^ [15:41] <@tyrdr0p> #jesterspub is serving its purpose. [15:41] <@tyrdr0p> And as you said mach, Anons and whoever can go there. [15:41] <@Sonar_Guy> wtf: exactly!! No anon in #jester, that is what was wanted.
[15:44] <@mach> So I am refused op in there? [15:45] <@Sonar_Guy> So your changing what you wanted now? [15:45] <@mach> This is the part I am questioning. [15:46] <@mach> I fucking know damn well what the room is for. That was not ever the question.
[15:46] <@Sonar_Guy> and All are welcome even BB correct? 00[15:46] <@wtf> you can have ops in there, it might scare off bb 00[15:46] <@wtf> which is your point...? [15:46] <@tyrdr0p> You wanted to avoid drama. I'll be damned if I give you OPs so you can stir up drama for the rest of us.
[15:46] <@mach> I want to know why I am being refused op. So as to speak to him myself. [15:47] <@Sonar_Guy> You can speak to him without ops [15:47] <@Sonar_Guy> Why do you feel the need to intimidate him?
[15:47] <@tyrdr0p> You're in the chan [15:47] <@mach> I will speak to him with ops. [15:47] <@tyrdr0p> Speak [15:47] <@tyrdr0p> Go into chan and speak [15:47] <@tyrdr0p> No.
[15:47] <@tyrdr0p> Not in pub you won't. [15:47] <@tyrdr0p> Not to just start some bull shit 00[15:48] <@wtf> mach, are you thejester?? [15:48] <@tyrdr0p> I stand behind you mach, as support. But I am not giving you OPs to go and start drama
00[15:48] <@wtf> lol [15:49] <@tyrdr0p> You know what's funny [15:49] <@tyrdr0p> I asked that same question a few days ago 00[15:50] <@wtf> mach... the rule is you answer no to that question as fast as possible to dispell rumors
[15:51] <@tyrdr0p> ^ [15:51] <@mach> Which brings us to another point. The Jester does not have to cow tow to BB in the pub. Why do I. [15:51] <@tyrdr0p> Is it #machspub? 00[15:52] <@wtf> mach i'm going to make you the kosherest pizza evar!
[15:52] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: get over yourelf!! If you cant take it, dont fucking dish it out plain and simple! [15:52] <@tyrdr0p> And does th3j35t3r know the FULL purpose of why that room was created? [15:52] <@tyrdr0p> mach?
[15:52] <@mach> Yes 00[15:53] <@wtf> would you like wine with that pizza? 00[15:53] <@wtf> i recommend beer 00[15:53] <@wtf> but wine sounds fancier [15:53] <@tyrdr0p> Well then I wouldn't see why he would have an issue with ANYONE being there. No matter who they are. And if he kicks someone, it's because they have insulted him in a chan with HIS name on it.
[15:53] <@tyrdr0p> He's got that right. But he doesn't start drama [15:53] <@tyrdr0p> He finishes it [15:54] <@tyrdr0p> He didn't readily go up to BB and go, hey fuck face, I don't like you, take a hint....
[15:54] <@tyrdr0p> WTF. [15:54] <@mach> Do not speak for him. Do not railroad me. [15:54] <@tyrdr0p> What the fuck. [15:54] <@tyrdr0p> Mach [15:54] <@tyrdr0p> Listen. [15:54] <@mach> Done here.
[15:54] <@tyrdr0p> What you wanna do will cause more negative attention [15:54] <@tyrdr0p> For all of us. [15:54] <@tyrdr0p> No. [15:54] <@tyrdr0p> You want to take a break, cool. [15:54] <@tyrdr0p> But don't walk out.
[15:54] <@tyrdr0p> Respect. [15:55] <@tyrdr0p> I have never walked out on you. Or anyone here. [15:55] <@tyrdr0p> I have taken a break, and came back. [15:55] <@tyrdr0p> Don't you walk out.
[15:55] <@tyrdr0p> My point is simple.... [15:55] <@tyrdr0p> And I will take it down a notch.... [15:55] <@tyrdr0p> Or 12. [15:55] <@tyrdr0p> If you come into pub and get opped and kick/ban BB, all that does is put a target on all of us. Everyone. All the OPs.
[15:56] <@tyrdr0p> You get what you want, but you endanger the rest of us with negative, shit ass attention. [15:56] <@mach> I was going to talk with him [15:56] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: It also goes to show your associated with #jesterspub, which you did not want.
[15:56] <@tyrdr0p> With OPs, that's TOO intimidating and just puts you on a pwer trip [15:57] <@mach> Nevermind. If you guys won't do it now, Jester will when he gets back. [15:57] <@tyrdr0p> Tell me not to speak for him, YOU shouldn't either.
[15:57] <@Sonar_Guy> You know what, here [15:58] <@mach> I am not, I am relaying the message. [15:58] <@Sonar_Guy> Get in there I will op you! [15:58] <@Sonar_Guy> NOW! [15:59] <@Sonar_Guy> come on, get in there I will op you!
[15:59] <@mach> What's the hurry now? [15:59] <@Sonar_Guy> You want ops you can have them 00[15:59] <@wtf> <@tyrdr0p> If you come into pub and get opped and kick/ban BB, all that does is put a target on all of us. Everyone. All the OPs.
[15:59] <@Sonar_Guy> This is what you want you can have them! 00[15:59] <@wtf> not acceptable 00[16:00] <@wtf> rjack is without a job, and i won't blame it all on anon, but definitely attribute some of it to them
[16:00] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: lets go, you can put the target on your back! 00[16:00] <@wtf> i need my job [16:00] <@Sonar_Guy> lets go, you want it you can have it! 00[16:01] <@wtf> there is more drama in here, a little too much
[16:01] <@mach> I know I can, the concern now is how many of you guys are going to blindside me trying to deal with my own problems with BB. I don't stand in your way, he's naming me in his pastebins and other ircs, I have a right to confront him on his shit.
[16:01] <@tyrdr0p> Then confront him 00[16:01] <@wtf> i'll back you and already have!! [16:01] <@tyrdr0p> But do it without OPs [16:01] <@tyrdr0p> Or bring him into #jester [16:01] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: how is this different from what has been done to me, rjack, wtf.
00[16:01] <@wtf> letme paste my conv for you to see the juggling i've been doing with that twerp [16:01] <@mach> Then op me. No and NO. in the pub, with op. [16:02] <@tyrdr0p> No. [16:02] <@Sonar_Guy> Mach come in ther I will op you!
00[16:02] <@wtf> tell me the command 00[16:02] <@wtf> check: /op mach 00[16:02] <@wtf> done! [16:02] <@mach> Let me see what wtf has real quick. 00[16:02] <@wtf> what did he do?
[16:02] <@Kalypto> Back... What have i missed? 00[16:02] <@wtf> whats our pastebin url? [16:03] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: come in #jesterspub and I will op you! [16:04] <@Kalypto> Anyone? [16:04] <@tyrdr0p> Too much to type Kal
[16:04] <@tyrdr0p> Just scroll up [16:04] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: now you have what you want I hope your happy! 03[16:05] * @Sonar_Guy (~nobody@tor-exit-router39-readme.formlessnetworking.net) has left #uscybercom
03[16:07] * Sonar_Guy (~nobody@tor-exit-router39-readme.formlessnetworking.net) has joined #uscybercom 03[16:07] * sid sets mode: +o Sonar_Guy
03[16:13] * wtf is now known as cep 00[16:17] <@cep> wb sg 00[16:17] <@cep> thanks for coming back [16:18] <@Sonar_Guy> np [16:18] <@Kalypto> Wow, every time I step away the shit hits the fan
[16:19] <@tyrdr0p> I need a cigarette, another bottle of rum, and some chips.... [16:19] <@tyrdr0p> Soooooo.... [16:19] <@tyrdr0p> brb [16:21] <@Kalypto> Had to leave before I go ape shit and stroke out.
[16:22] <@tyrdr0p> About what Kal? [16:22] <@tyrdr0p> You can nerdrage around us. :D [16:22] <@Kalypto> The drama llama seems to have sat on oour damn faces lately. [16:23] <@Kalypto> I figure as long as I dont see his BS I dont have to deal with it...
00[16:24] <@cep> bb needs this. he doesn't get that we aren't the ones he's mad at... go mach go [16:27] <@Kalypto> Thats because to him #jester/#jesterspub = Backtrace [16:27] <@Kalypto> He doesnt seem to understand the seperation
[16:28] <@Kalypto> Maybe a staple gun will help. [16:29] <@Kalypto> Wait... did anyone check mach for screwdrivers before she went in? [16:30] <@Kalypto> Better yet... 06[16:30] * @Kalypto hands Mach a drill
[16:31] <@mach> lol hush cep!!!!!! Let me 00[16:31] <@cep> k sorry 00[16:33] <@cep> please don't kick him mach, i told him to come 00[16:34] <@cep> you are doing great, don't let him get under your skin. educate his dumb ass
[16:34] <@Kalypto> That could take years 06[16:37] * @Kalypto staples tyrs lip to a bowl of skittles [16:38] <@tyrdr0p> nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom 00[16:39] <@cep> its sad to watch. like a cat toying with a wounded mouse
00[16:40] <@cep> his brain is struggling to connect synapses [16:45] <@Kalypto> and failing 00[16:45] <@cep> this is why you don't do heroine mr brown 00[16:46] <@cep> you need to have things repeatedly beaten into your skull
[16:46] <@tyrdr0p> *********************************** [16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <Asherah> Barrett brought his big brother [16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <tyrdr0p> o.O [16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <tyrdr0p> what you mean?
[16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <Asherah> Nakomis [16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <tyrdr0p> Where? [16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <Asherah> in pm [16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <tyrdr0p> Saying? [16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <Asherah> the_upright_man
[16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <Asherah> not much of anything [16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <Asherah> insinuations and silliness [16:47] <@tyrdr0p> <tyrdr0p> Anything we should be worried about? [16:47] <@tyrdr0p> **************************************
[16:47] <@tyrdr0p> Expect a bot flood in pub if things get out of hand 00[16:47] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> you should leave them talk, Cephurs. 00[16:47] <@cep> <cep> rage 00[16:47] <@cep> <cep> fucking rage
00[16:47] <@cep> <cep> who be you? 00[16:47] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> They'll burn themselves out eventually. And I'm no one important. 00[16:47] <@cep> <cep> lol 00[16:47] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> Barrett needs his daily feel-good hour, and mach needs to "take control of the situation".
00[16:47] <@cep> <cep> thanks for the place to type 00[16:47] <@cep> <cep> and i need a beer. 00[16:47] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> It's better than interrupting them. 00[16:47] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> Though it's a pity Asherah isn't allowed to talk.
00[16:47] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> That would have been humerous. 00[16:47] <@cep> <cep> she is next to get voice 00[16:47] <@cep> <cep> who ever heard of a ruly pub? [16:48] <@tyrdr0p> Well that's who it is Ceph. Nakomis.
00[16:49] <@cep> i'm gonna kick him! 00[16:49] <@cep> jk 00[16:49] <@cep> how about clockwork/totallybored [16:50] <@tyrdr0p> That's earlgrey [16:50] <@tyrdr0p> They're good
00[16:51] <@cep> thankya [16:51] <@tyrdr0p> yw [16:51] <@Kalypto> Expect the pub to be bot flooded when this is over and +m is removed. [16:52] <@Sonar_Guy> Kalypto: why? 00[16:52] <@cep> lol kal
[16:52] <@Kalypto> Because thats what Nak does... [16:52] <@tyrdr0p> That's what I am waiting on. Nakomis = asher = real_dickshiner = 100k botnet from what I understand. [16:52] <@tyrdr0p> I already have commands set up to copy/pasta to stop it.
03[16:52] * AD (~AnonyDown@zeller.torservers.net) has joined #uscybercom 03[16:52] * sid sets mode: +o AD 00[16:53] <@cep> wb ad! [16:53] <@Kalypto> Sup AD2
00[16:53] <@cep> holy fuking brawl in the pub [16:53] <@AD> sup kal [16:53] <@Kalypto> Mach and BB are having a cage match in the pub... its set to +m 00[16:55] * @AnonymousDown (~AnonyDown@server51262.uk2net.com) Quit (Quit: AnonymousDown)
03[16:55] * AD is now known as AnonymousDown 00[16:56] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> I'm not Nakomis, I'm afraid. 00[16:56] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> I needed to check something without alerting anyone, that's all.
00[16:56] <@cep> <cep> sorry, just guessing 00[16:56] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> I am entirely unrelated to that group of children. 00[16:56] <@cep> <cep> lol, wish i could say the same
00[16:56] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> Though BarrettBrown has a special place in my heart. I do like his work, even if he goes about it the wrong way entirely. 00[16:56] <@cep> <The_Upright_Man> To quote his girlfriend "He's an idiot, but somehow he manages to do the right thing."
00[16:56] <@cep> <cep> could until recently. yeah i like bb too. I wish he would see the good in himself 00[16:56] <@cep> <cep> seems like he like the lexluthor roll a little too much though, especially if you get him talking about it... the msnbc interview
03[16:56] * sid sets mode: +v Kalypto 00[16:56] <@cep> forgot this : <cep> you gonna flood us nakomis? [16:56] <@Sonar_Guy> [18:56] < voicepls> | BarrettBrown MADNESS LEVEL [ ] what the fuck? CALM AND PEACEFUL
[16:56] <@Sonar_Guy> [18:56] < voicepls> | BarrettBrown MADNESS LEVEL [===- ] RELAXED
[16:56] <@Sonar_Guy> [18:56] < voicepls> | BarrettBrown MADNESS LEVEL [=======- ] NOT SO ANGRY
[16:56] <@Sonar_Guy> [18:56] < voicepls> | BarrettBrown MADNESS LEVEL [===========- ] ANGRY AT YOU LOLF
[16:56] <@Sonar_Guy> [18:56] < voicepls> | BarrettBrown MADNESS LEVEL [=================]===- OFF DA SCALE LOL (Buffer overrun) 00[16:56] <@cep> lol 00[16:57] <@cep> who was that with?
[16:57] <@AnonymousDown> lol [16:58] <@tyrdr0p> jax [16:58] <@tyrdr0p> She sent me the same. [16:58] <@tyrdr0p> LOL! [17:08] <@Kalypto> Im thinking The upright dude isnt nakomis now...lol
[17:11] <@Kalypto> Whats our private paste thing? [17:12] <@Sonar_Guy> http://uscybercom.modsteam.net:9000/ [17:12] <@tyrdr0p> http://uscybercom.modsteam.net:9000
[17:12] <@AnonymousDown> paste bin thing or pirate pad? [17:12] <@tyrdr0p> ^ 5 Sonar_Guy [17:12] <@tyrdr0p> LOL! [17:12] <@Sonar_Guy> lol [17:12] <@Kalypto> http://uscybercom.modsteam.net:9000/xellIpRkVy
[17:14] <@Sonar_Guy> tyrdr0p: gonna be a drunken night tonight, 47 seconds in the the game and it is 2 - 0 Flyers [17:15] <@tyrdr0p> WOW! [17:15] <@AnonymousDown> < starting already and gaining ground
[17:15] <@tyrdr0p> Did they come out swinging? [17:15] <@tyrdr0p> Yeah, I've had my rum for about 2 hours now. [17:15] <@tyrdr0p> Interesting paste Kalypto [17:16] <@Kalypto> People talk when they think your neutral, but something tells me he knows im not...lol
[17:16] <@Sonar_Guy> tyrdr0p: waiting for gal to get back with my bottle!! [17:16] <@tyrdr0p> xD [17:16] <@tyrdr0p> Nice [17:17] <@Sonar_Guy> tyrdr0p: gonna put a nipple on that bottle of tequila tonight!
[17:17] <@tyrdr0p> ROFL! [17:17] <@tyrdr0p> Fuck yeah [17:18] <@Kalypto> Okay, who the hell is that guy? [17:18] <@tyrdr0p> No clue. [17:18] <@Kalypto> Man, thats it... Im not talking to anyone anymore.
[17:22] <@Kalypto> Not liking this guy.... [17:22] <@Kalypto> Someone do a CTCP on me plz [17:23] <@Kalypto> version... I want to know what it says [17:23] <@Sonar_Guy> --- | Got VERSION reply from Kalypto: mIRC v7.17 Khaled Mardam-Bey
00[17:23] <@cep> 00[17:23] <@cep> Djehuty 00[17:23] <@cep> Atlanta, GA 00[17:23] <@cep> followers: 17 friends: 19 listed: 0 00[17:23] <@cep> ??? [17:24] <@Kalypto> Thanks, I was making sure i was setup to display when someone does that for me.
[17:24] <@tyrdr0p> orly [17:24] <@Kalypto> he never versioned me... [17:24] <@mach> what the heck? who is that guy and what is he saying? [17:25] <@mach> um and what is a ctcp? [17:26] <@Sonar_Guy> http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/ctcpspec.html
[17:27] <@mach> You could just tell me in one sentence. I see. [17:27] <@mach> So does anyone have a problem with how or what I said in there today? 00[17:28] * @Mr_Pink (~Kalypto@u199-48-147-004.appliedops.net) Quit
[17:28] <@AnonymousDown> OPS, nopro is WHO? [17:29] <@mach> OpNoPro is the leader of opmetalgear - anon [17:29] <@Kalypto> And from what I hear he is a psychp [17:29] <@Kalypto> *psycho
[17:30] <@mach> Totally Kal. Old hippy and had that homeless park guru way of speaking. [17:31] <@tyrdr0p> afk [17:31] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I do have an issue, but I choose not to discuss it at this point in time.
03[17:32] * Kalypto is now known as Kalypto2 00[17:32] * @Kalypto2 (~Kalypto@109.123.119.163) Quit [17:33] <@mach> Well, we should. I tried to handle it the best I could, but I'm sure a bit more input from you guys will improve things for next time.
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03[17:34] * Kalypto is now known as Apate [17:34] <@mach> I was surprised that you muted the room sonar. I wasn't sure what to do with that. 00[17:35] <@cep> shouldhave let asherah talk but that could have gotten bb out earlier if anything
00[17:36] <@cep> i updated the pb 00[17:37] <@cep> homeless park guru way of speaking 00[17:37] <@cep> so true! [17:41] <@tyrdr0p> back [17:41] <@Apate> Interesting. [17:42] <@Apate> So Who all got a version from him?
[17:42] <@tyrdr0p> Link again? [17:42] <@Apate> http://uscybercom.modsteam.net:9000/xellIpRkVy < This one? [17:44] <@Apate> Hello?
[17:44] <@tyrdr0p> Yeah [17:44] <@tyrdr0p> That was it [17:44] <@tyrdr0p> Was reading [17:45] <@Apate> Who got a version request from that dude? [17:45] <@tyrdr0p> Interesting post cep
[17:45] <@tyrdr0p> I did not. [17:45] <@tyrdr0p> Nor did Sonar, I think. [17:45] <@tyrdr0p> Awinee, Asherah, dresden. [17:45] <@tyrdr0p> Those are the ones I remember [17:45] <@Sonar_Guy> what?
[17:46] <@tyrdr0p> Who were versioned by djehuty = The Upright Man [17:46] <@Sonar_Guy> Oh from dejhuty == The_Upright_Man, I did the night he was doing it! [17:46] <@tyrdr0p> Orly [17:46] <@tyrdr0p> He didn't version me....
[17:46] <@tyrdr0p> Hmmm. [17:46] <@Sonar_Guy> yeah buy my shit lies so he learned nothing lol [17:47] <@tyrdr0p> lol [17:47] <@Sonar_Guy> I think he was trying to correlate somebody between 2 irc nets
[17:47] <@Sonar_Guy> tyrdr0p: you on your irssi? 00[17:47] <@cep> not sure what versioned means, or how to tell in mirc if he tried anything funny with me... 00[17:48] <@cep> The_Upright_Man actually using host 188.168.28.78
00[17:48] <@cep> T [17:48] <@AnonymousDown> Sonar, acefawkes prior nicks? remember any? 00[17:48] <@cep> is doing a whois the same thing? [17:48] <@Sonar_Guy> AnonymousDown: one sec [17:48] <@mach> Since none of you will tell me what versioning is,and how I would know, I don't know if he did that to me or not.
00[17:49] <@cep> lo [17:49] <@bluesoul120> lol 00[17:49] <@cep> l [17:49] <@Sonar_Guy> cep: that host resolves to moscow, its not tor but it is most likely a vpn or other prozy 00[17:49] <@cep> i'm with mach goddammit!
[17:49] <@bluesoul120> mach version gets what client you're using [17:49] <@Sonar_Guy> cep: no you get a message when somebody does it to you [17:49] <@bluesoul120> and it would show up in your chat
[17:49] <@bluesoul120> ^ 00[17:49] <@cep> thankya 00[17:49] <@cep> lol [17:49] <@Sonar_Guy> like that cep [17:49] <@Apate> in mIRC the message will be in red on the status window
00[17:49] <@cep> NOW I"M AFK MAKING DOUGH! DAMMIT 00[17:50] <@cep> thanks kal 00[17:50] <@cep> i <3 you guys [17:50] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: If you did not see that message it was not done to you
[17:50] <@Sonar_Guy> cep: it is useful as there are kown vulnerabilities in irc clients: Versioning shows this for you: Got VERSION reply from cep: mIRC v7.17 Khaled Mardam-Bey [17:51] <@mach> I see now, thankyou.
[17:51] <@Sonar_Guy> if you know the version you know the OS and client Version so you can begin to focus on exploits [17:51] <@Sonar_Guy> many exploits in the clinet can allow root/admin access to the box
[17:52] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: your using an old version of firefox 04[17:53] -> [Sonar_Guy] VERSION [17:53] <@mach> Yes, but if you versioned me sonar how come there was no notice? [17:54] <@mach> Shouldn't I have gotten it in a message like you said?
[17:54] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: you should have gotten a message like this: Got VERSION request from Sonar_Guy 00[17:54] <@cep> i versioned both of you [17:54] <@mach> Nope, not a thing. [17:54] <@Sonar_Guy> if you did not it could be an issue with chatzilla
00[17:54] <@cep> got a response from sg [17:54] <@Sonar_Guy> or how you have it configured 00[17:54] <@cep> and mach now: 00[17:54] <@cep> [17:53] [Sonar_Guy VERSION reply]: VERSION EZirc v1.2o for OS/2 Warp
00[17:54] <@cep> [17:54] [mach VERSION reply]: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014] 00[17:55] <@cep> did you get a message sg? [17:55] <@mach> That could be. All my software is heavily tweeked.
[17:55] <@Sonar_Guy> cep: you like my version? [17:55] <@tyrdr0p> http://pastebin.com/UKpvrdNy <<<< Pastebin from OpMetalGear. CTRL+F djehuty 00[17:55] <@cep> yes
[17:55] <@mach> No version from me cep? 00[17:55] <@cep> os/2 warp, nice 00[17:55] <@cep> nope mach [17:56] <@Sonar_Guy> cep: see how knowing that is beneficial [17:56] <@Sonar_Guy> yes
[17:56] <@mach> That looks like me, though cep. [17:57] <@tyrdr0p> djehuty = Noah = The_Upright_Man 00[17:57] <@cep> sorry, mach, yes i ctcp versioned you, but didn't get one from you 00[17:57] <@cep> ahh noah!
[17:57] <@tyrdr0p> He's Noah in OpMetalGear 00[17:58] <@cep> definitely sonar guy, as soon as you mentioned versioning i rememberd the steps [17:58] <@mach> oh, I see. [17:59] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: your obviously using windows and with a few more different CTCP messages I could determine the version of your OS which gives even more information
[17:59] <@bluesoul120> hell I already found exploits for your Firefox [17:59] <@bluesoul120> :\ [17:59] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: bingo [18:00] <@Sonar_Guy> Thats why I mentioned she was using an older version
[18:00] <@tyrdr0p> Me next Sonar_Guy. What's mine come up as. :) [18:00] <@mach> What makes the os obvious from irc? [18:00] <@Sonar_Guy> the version of firefox [18:00] <@Sonar_Guy> each version has a build number and those are OS specific
[18:01] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014 [18:01] <@mach> So whatever build I start with, I see. That's probably not a bad thing for me then. [18:01] <@Sonar_Guy> the 20101203075014 is the specific build
00[18:01] <@cep> fuckyeah, learning! 00[18:02] <@cep> get down SG [18:02] <@mach> So it doesn't look deeper, the info is extrapolated from the browser. I have that right? [18:03] <@Sonar_Guy> for a Version it is but there are other CTCP messages that can be sent to determine
[18:03] <@Sonar_Guy> more [18:04] <@tyrdr0p> Sonar_Guy: Can you CTCP Version me real quick and tell me what it reads. 04[18:04] -> [tyrdr0p] VERSION [18:04] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: also malformed CTCP messages can be sent that can gain further info
[18:05] <@mach> So if my browser is still close to the original and the build number is in tact. I assume that would hold true for the os if it is versioned. [18:05] <@Sonar_Guy> tyrdr0p: you finally applied what I told you to last night /ignore * CTCPS
00[18:05] <@cep> coming tyr [18:05] <@mach> So what does mine say? [18:05] <@tyrdr0p> Fuck yeah. Like a boss. [18:05] <@tyrdr0p> :D 00[18:05] <@cep> or maybe not, getting no response... like a boss
04[18:05] -> [cep] VERSION [18:05] <@mach> sonar? 04[18:06] -> [mach] VERSION [18:06] <@Sonar_Guy> I only did the Version which gave me [19:49] --- | Got VERSION reply from mach: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]
00[18:06] <@cep> [18:06] [mach VERSION reply]: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014] 00[18:06] <@cep> ditto [18:07] <@Sonar_Guy> Your running an older version of Chatzilla within an older version of Firefox, both of which have known vulnerabilities
00[18:08] <@cep> [18:05] [cep VERSION] 00[18:08] <@cep> [18:05] [cep VERSION reply]: mIRC v7.17 Khaled Mardam-Bey [18:10] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: http://www.ghacks.net/2010/02/20/highly-critical-firefox-3-6-vulnerability/
[18:10] <@Sonar_Guy> The vulnerability is a remote code exection vulnerability that can be used by malicious users to comprise the operating system. [18:10] <@tyrdr0p> Tis a pain in zee no-no spots. [18:11] <@bluesoul120> lol tyr
[18:11] <@mach> Thanks, I know it needs updated. But it takes a good month to write up a new one that will work on here. This is a distributed grid remember. Not a web-happy shiny off the shelf thing. :( [18:13] <@Sonar_Guy> yeah I know but you can research how to ignore CTCP messages in chatzilla, I am not that familiar with it
[18:13] <@Sonar_Guy> if you ignore them the get no response [18:13] <@Sonar_Guy> or you do what I do and set a response that lies [18:13] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: do a /CTCP Sonar_Guy version [18:14] <@Sonar_Guy> and you will see what I mean
[18:14] <@Sonar_Guy> cep: you can do a who is via ctcp /ctcp Sonar_Guy finger [18:14] <@mach> "command not known to the server" 04[18:15] -> [Sonar_Guy] FINGER 00[18:15] <@cep> lol who made up finger? kills mme
[18:15] <@tyrdr0p> [Sonar_Guy VERSION reply]: VERSION EZirc v1.2o for OS/2 Warp [18:15] <@tyrdr0p> That's what I got [18:15] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: try the CTCP and FINGER in all caps [18:16] <@mach> k
[18:16] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I am not so sure how compliant chatzilla is with the RFCs [18:17] <@mach> At this point the only thing on here compliant or in original form is tweetdeck. For some reason it was happy so I left it be.
[18:17] <@Sonar_Guy> lol [18:17] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: you still running NT on that box? [18:18] <@mach> Although it is only accessible from it's native web-facing machine and does not play well in the rest of the system. But it doesn't get in the way either.
[18:18] <@mach> lol no, but I might be better off! [18:19] <@Sonar_Guy> lol, what are you doing with your grid? Distributed computing like Seti At Home? [18:19] <@mach> uhh. sure. that's it. Seti.
[18:20] <@Sonar_Guy> lol [18:20] <@Sonar_Guy> sonar_logger does that! [18:20] <@Sonar_Guy> when it is not logging 00[18:20] <@cep> no response to fingering SG. slut [18:21] <@Sonar_Guy> lol
[18:21] <@bluesoul120> O_o [18:21] <@Sonar_Guy> its only gonna give you the same info as a /whois [18:21] <@bluesoul120> hey! where's gal? [18:21] <@mach> I miss doing that. I should try to re-install it, I had to take it off years ago.
[18:21] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: getting liquor and hitting the grocery store right now [18:22] <@bluesoul120> ah kk 03[18:23] * SkyNet (~cyberdyne@tor-exit-router39-readme.formlessnetworking.net) has joined #uscybercom
03[18:23] * sid sets mode: +o SkyNet [18:23] <@bluesoul120> yo 00[18:23] <@cep> finger does the same as whois? [18:23] <@SkyNet> sup [18:23] <@bluesoul120> nm 00[18:23] <@cep> WB SN!
00[18:24] <@cep> i think arrests are coming unless i'm totally missing Loot [18:25] <@AnonymousDown> ^ =) [18:25] <@bluesoul120> ugh so when I woke up I thought today was Sunday [18:26] <@bluesoul120> thought my nap turned into 12hrs
[18:27] <@mach> what does SA stand for? [18:27] <@mach> hi sky [18:27] <@Sonar_Guy> cep: --- | Got FINGER reply from cep: () Idle 160 seconds [18:28] <@SkyNet> hey [18:28] <@Sonar_Guy> Hola SkyNet
[18:28] <@SkyNet> hey man 00[18:29] <@cep> lol 06[18:29] * @SkyNet almost went back to windows today [18:29] <@Sonar_Guy> lol 00[18:29] <@cep> 160 seconds later [18:29] <@Sonar_Guy> SkyNet: try Fedora it likes all boxen!!
06[18:29] * @Sonar_Guy ducks and runs [18:29] <@SkyNet> so does ubuntu. [18:29] <@SkyNet> it just doesnt like gnome3 [18:30] <@Sonar_Guy> ah ok [18:32] <@SkyNet> oh an btw, when gnome starts, and the only you see is a single window with a " :( " on it, reach for install disks and bottle of tequila
[18:32] <@Sonar_Guy> lol [18:32] <@Sonar_Guy> I can imagine 00[18:33] <@cep> I'm guessing SA = situational awareness? dunno though for sure [18:33] <@Sonar_Guy> cep: where is the reference?
00[18:34] <@cep> pub: <Loot_> later folks...good to see you one and all. keep you SA stupidly high and keep your heads stupidly low. you gonna have to trust me. later 00[18:34] <@cep> * [18:34] <@Sonar_Guy> ah I see, loot meant Situational Awareness
[18:35] <@AnonymousDown> ^ [18:35] <@mach> oh! ok thanks. I'm sure that's it. :) 00[18:36] <@cep> wonder what it means [18:36] <@mach> i'm all : let's see... Sliced Avocado? no. Slimy Anon? no.
[18:36] <@bluesoul120> me too mach 00[18:36] <@cep> fbi going to show anonymous members that they are no longer members, at least not irl [18:37] <@mach> It means being fully aware of what's going on all around you so you are not taken by surprise.
06[18:38] * @SkyNet loans the channel his military acronym dictionary [18:38] <@bluesoul120> lol [18:39] <@Apate> Hey Sky, didnt see ya drop it. [18:39] <@Apate> *in [18:40] <@tyrdr0p> Sonar_Guy: Why would this come up - -flawmerc- DCC Chat (72.255.35.191)
[18:40] <@tyrdr0p> Hey SkyNet [18:40] <@SkyNet> hey fellas [18:40] <@bluesoul120> he's trying to send you something [18:40] <@bluesoul120> o_O [18:41] <@tyrdr0p> o.O [18:41] <@SkyNet> brb. gotta reboot
[18:41] <@tyrdr0p> Hb [18:41] <@tyrdr0p> :) 00[18:41] * @SkyNet (~cyberdyne@tor-exit-router39-readme.formlessnetworking.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
00[18:42] <@cep> oh dear tyr. 00[18:42] <@cep> do we know flawmerc? [18:43] <@tyrdr0p> Negative. [18:43] <@bluesoul120> nope [18:43] <@mach> If I click on nicks I automatically get that dcc open msg. I wonder how many people I've done that to.
[18:43] <@bluesoul120> lol [18:43] <@mach> No, but they were there the other day. I don't recall exactly when. 03[18:46] * SkyNet (~cyberdyne@raskin.torservers.net) has joined #uscybercom
03[18:46] * sid sets mode: +o SkyNet 00[18:46] <@cep> sbsn 00[18:46] <@cep> wbsn 00[18:46] <@cep> tgisnl2nite [18:47] <@tyrdr0p> WB SkyNet [18:47] <@bluesoul120> lol cep
[18:47] <@SkyNet> hows the pub channel doing? [18:47] <@tyrdr0p> FunFunFunFun [18:47] <@Apate> GDEvans inst the only one that can trow around quotes... [18:47] <@Apate> < AFK [18:47] <@tyrdr0p> ?_?
[18:48] <@bluesoul120> lol good ol Greggy [18:49] <@bluesoul120> Imma buy some Ligatt stock [18:49] <@bluesoul120> shit is less than a penny [18:52] <@AnonymousDown> http://firstpraxis.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/project-pm-first-praxis-and-gaias-lament/
[18:53] <@Sonar_Guy> from antivigilante: [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> **************************************************************** [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:48] < antivigilan> | hey Sonar [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:48] < Sonar_Guy> | Hola antivigilante
[18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:49] < antivigilante> can you pass a message along to the pub [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:49] < Sonar_Guy> | whats that? [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:49] < antivigilante> there's #revolunacy fever brewing
[18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:49] < antivigilante> me and a few anons are hijacking [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:50] < Sonar_Guy> | Hijacking what? [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:50] < antivigilante> memes and pushing #renaissance
[18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:50] < Sonar_Guy> | you can come in there, #jesterspub is open to all!! [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:50] < antivigilante> 60s and 90s anarchists are liable to fuck things up
[18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:51] < antivigilante> and a few anarchanons know it and we've agreed on a general focus [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:51] < antivigilante> i'll stop by after i've proven the method
[18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:52] < Sonar_Guy> | ok, I would rather you pass that message though, that way if their are questions [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> [20:52] < antivigilante> this is one of those things where you must bring cake to the discussion
[18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> ***************************************************************** [18:54] <@Sonar_Guy> thats was from irc.freenode.net #projectpm [18:54] <@bluesoul120> /sigh
[18:55] <@bluesoul120> lol you're on there? [18:55] <@Sonar_Guy> yes 00[19:00] <@cep> wow... cake 00[19:00] <@cep> delicious cake 00[19:01] <@cep> mashidiso Thathana says:
00[19:01] <@cep> January 30, 2011 at 2:48 pm 00[19:01] <@cep> The picture of my brother eating the feaces of a cow made me weep with sorrow what can i do ?????? i need to talk to you in a secure enviroment .this is shamefull .
00[19:01] <@cep> WTF?? [19:02] <@AnonymousDown> < likes the email addresses better =) 06[19:06] * @bluesoul120 pours everyone a drink and starts baking some cake [19:06] <@mach> ok, now one more chore and back to relaxing and having some fun. :)
[19:08] <@bluesoul120> time to play with XP [19:09] <@bluesoul120> actually nvm. I would have to dl the iso again and connection is poo [19:15] <@Apate> https://twitter.com/#!/patrioticnigra/status/56882245121740801
[19:16] <@AnonymousDown> LOL! [19:17] <@bluesoul120> cep, I am illicit [19:22] <@mach> Wait - I did like you told me sonar and it's giving me an error msg that I'm not in the channel so I can't do that.
[19:22] <@mach> zud asked for invite to #jester so i sent invite to #jesterspub... no go. [19:23] <@bluesoul120> yep [19:23] <@bluesoul120> he's in the pub now [19:23] <@mach> ok cool. But that ruins my way of directing people without having them into #jester first and then moving them over.
00[19:23] <@cep> thanks blue [19:24] <@bluesoul120> hmm? [19:24] <@mach> What else will work? [19:24] <@bluesoul120> what'd i do? 00[19:24] <@cep> illicit 00[19:24] <@cep> i was wondering
[19:24] <@bluesoul120> oh [19:24] <@bluesoul120> lol [19:24] <@bluesoul120> yeah that's what I usually go by on those type of things [19:24] <@SkyNet> relay here,so an op on #jesterspub can send an invite from that channel
[19:25] <@mach> what???? [19:25] <@mach> How do I talk to them or send them to the pub to begin with? [19:25] <@bluesoul120> the ones that don't know about the pub i've been sending invites to
[19:25] <@bluesoul120> the other ones i've been ignoring [19:27] <@mach> There isn't a way to talk to someone first? It's either invite them to #jester or hand them off? [19:27] <@SkyNet> either let them into #jester and and tell them about the other channel, or relay in this channel so an op on #jesterspub can send them an invite
[19:27] <@bluesoul120> /query usernam [19:27] <@bluesoul120> or that^ [19:27] <@SkyNet> /msg <nick> 00[19:27] * @AnonymousDown (~AnonyDown@zeller.torservers.net) Quit (Quit: box change)
[19:27] <@mach> Thank you blue!!!! I knew there had to be a way to talk to people, I see you guys do it all the time. :) [19:28] <@mach> Thanks Sky :) [19:28] <@SkyNet> gotta reboot, brb [19:28] <@Apate> or /privmsg <nick>
00[19:28] * @SkyNet (~cyberdyne@raskin.torservers.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:29] <@mach> cool thanks apate. :) [19:30] <@bluesoul120> omfg google pisses me off
[19:30] <@tyrdr0p> why? [19:30] <@bluesoul120> trying to do some more digging on nakomis and it keeps trying to change my shit to nOkomis [19:30] <@bluesoul120> acting like I'm spelling my shit wrong
[19:31] <@tyrdr0p> hahah [19:31] <@bluesoul120> don't make me bust out the altavista [19:31] <@Apate> Thats what you get for using ubuntu... :p [19:31] <@bluesoul120> get outta here Windows user
[19:31] <@Apate> :P [19:32] <@bluesoul120> lol [19:32] <@bluesoul120> just playing I have windows 7 on my laptop if I ever get that working again [19:32] <@mach> seriously, I did break out the altavista - I'm not proud - but by gollly I can search the term I actually want without tor causing a captcha
[19:33] <@bluesoul120> oh god very true [19:33] <@bluesoul120> pisses me off to no end [19:33] <@mach> I couldn't take it any more. Fight through the captcha loop and then everytime you correct your corrected term you're thrown back out. Nonononono
[19:37] <@bluesoul120> http://twitpic.com/4isfjb i lol'd [19:37] <@bluesoul120> this is right up your alley cep 00[19:38] <@cep> lol 00[19:51] * @Apate (~Apate@tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net) Quit
[19:51] <@bluesoul120> nuuu [19:51] <@bluesoul120> baby come back [19:52] <@bluesoul120> you can blame it all on me 03[19:59] * SkyNet (~cyberdyne@tor-exit-router41-readme.formlessnetworking.net) has joined #uscybercom
03[19:59] * sid sets mode: +o SkyNet [20:01] <@bluesoul120> wb sky [20:01] <@SkyNet> ty [20:03] <@Sonar_Guy> wb SkyNet [20:03] <@SkyNet> =) [20:11] <@bluesoul120> i think linz is grumpy, tyr
[20:11] <@tyrdr0p> She about sent me into a fucking rage [20:11] <@tyrdr0p> Fucking bitch must be on her god damn period. [20:11] <@bluesoul120> lol was thinking that but didn't say it 00[20:11] <@cep> what'd i miss?
[20:13] <@tyrdr0p> UBER fucking livid at that fucking cunt. Uppity bitch. She needs it shoved in her fucking pooper. [20:13] <@tyrdr0p> brb [20:13] <@tyrdr0p> smoke [20:13] <@bluesoul120> kk
[20:13] <@bluesoul120> I left [20:13] <@bluesoul120> I enjoyed the chat with anon more [20:14] <@bluesoul120> :\ [20:15] <@mach> What are you guys talking about? [20:15] <@bluesoul120> tinychat
[20:15] <@bluesoul120> oh fuck mach [20:15] <@bluesoul120> your buddy is back [20:15] <@bluesoul120> again [20:15] <@bluesoul120> BB [20:15] <@bluesoul120> but tyr, chatter, and I were on tinychat with jax and her friends
[20:15] <@mach> I figured he would be. Make sure cep knows. [20:16] <@bluesoul120> and one of them got bitchy cuz tyr asked a question 00[20:16] <@cep> check [20:16] <@bluesoul120> :D
[20:20] <@mach> Whelp. All I have left to say to BB is fuck off and leave me alone. So I'm good for now. Until he gets in my face again, anyways. [20:21] <@mach> Besides. I'm not going through the 'You can't have ops' drama again until that's resolved.
[20:21] <@bluesoul120> blah [20:22] <@bluesoul120> not sure I'm entirely aware of that drama but okay [20:22] <@mach> Oh, sonar and tyr refused to op me earlier. [20:22] <@tyrdr0p> Tell him why mach
[20:23] <@mach> I'm a little bent out of shape on that. [20:23] <@mach> You're reason, you tell it. [20:23] <@tyrdr0p> No. If you're going to bring something up, be sure to tell BOTH sides of the arguement, not just your side.
[20:23] <@tyrdr0p> Thanks. [20:24] <@bluesoul120> we don't have to get into if you don't want. I just didn't know what you meant [20:25] <@mach> I didn't mean to give either side, really. I threw it out there without thinking. I know you guys have your reasons and I know I disagree.
Session Close: Sat Apr 09 20:28:24 2011
Session Start: Sat Apr 09 20:28:24 2011 Session Ident: #uscybercom 00[20:28] * Disconnected 00[20:29] * Attempting to rejoin channel #uscybercom 03[20:29] * Rejoined channel #uscybercom
03[20:29] * Topic is 'US Cyber Command' 03[20:29] * Set by ChanServ!services@2600.net on Tue Apr 05 03:59:35 00[20:30] * @cep (~wtf@politkovskaja.torservers.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[20:31] <@bluesoul120> loving that exit node Cephurs Session Close: Sat Apr 09 20:31:06 2011
Session Start: Sat Apr 09 20:31:06 2011 Session Ident: #uscybercom 00[20:31] * Disconnected 00[20:32] * Attempting to rejoin channel #uscybercom
03[20:32] * Rejoined channel #uscybercom 03[20:32] * Topic is 'US Cyber Command' 03[20:32] * Set by ChanServ!services@2600.net on Tue Apr 05 03:59:35 11[20:32] -sid- [#jesterspub] Where's my scooby snacks?
11[20:32] -sid- [#uscybercom] This is a secure channel for Ops and Half-Ops of #jester Only. Please do not discuss anything in this channel in channel #jester. 11[20:32] -sid- [#2600] www.2600.com
03[20:32] * sid sets mode: +o Cephurs [20:33] <@bluesoul120> wb ceph [20:33] <@Kalypto> Double Cephurs all the way. [20:33] <@bluesoul120> oh lord [20:39] <@Kalypto> http://www.neowin.net/news/fake-chinese-500-gb-external-drive-is-one-clever-paperweight-literally
[20:39] <@mach> I'm back. 00[20:39] <@Cephurs> thankyha, 00[20:39] <@Cephurs> vzw only lets me cam for 2mins before resetting everything [20:40] <@bluesoul120> blah cep [20:40] <@mach> Ok, tyr, sonar are you here?
[20:41] <@tyrdr0p> I am, kinda. Multitasking. [20:41] <@Sonar_Guy> Yup [20:41] <@tyrdr0p> What's up [20:41] <@mach> Anyone else that want' a two cents in this... [20:41] <@Kalypto> I do...
[20:41] <@Kalypto> In what? [20:41] <@mach> lol [20:41] <@bluesoul120> Kalypto, just sit back and watch for the time being 00[20:41] <@Cephurs> what 00[20:42] <@Cephurs> is tyr funfunfun
00[20:42] <@Cephurs> http://atmc.jp/plant/rad/?n=1 [20:42] <@mach> In the incident earlier. I asked for ops and was told 'no' 00[20:42] <@Cephurs> japan nuclear plants going worse last 48
[20:43] <@mach> That sucks. [20:44] <@mach> We need to get back to pushing on that Japan project, we've let it drop. [20:44] <@mach> Anyways, I am very upset that you guys did that to me. Very.
[20:45] <@tyrdr0p> I'm very upset that you jeapordized the entire chan and the OPs there with your tirade and vendetta vs BB [20:45] <@mach> I don't understand. I know what your reasons are, but I fail to see why you chose that as the solution.
[20:46] <@mach> That is a matter of opinion. Does everyone feel that way? 00[20:46] <@Cephurs> don't want to hurt your feelings mach [20:46] <@mach> I want you to tell me what you think [20:46] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: here is why!
[20:46] <@Sonar_Guy> 21:16 <@mach> No, don't op me here. [20:46] <@Kalypto> I don't want to take sides... but they can do real life damage to some people here. [20:46] <@Sonar_Guy> 21:17 <@mach> please
[20:47] <@Sonar_Guy> 21:17 < mach> It will be better for several reasons if I'm not. [20:47] <@Sonar_Guy> 21:17 < mach> All the anons in #jester know exactly how I feel about it all... 00[20:47] <@Cephurs> but yeah, the whole deal with having to speak with him only with ops is a little bs, and i think anti your own plan with the pub?
[20:47] <@mach> Cephurs you asked that he not be kicked, I heard that and didn't kick him. [20:47] <@Sonar_Guy> 21:18 < mach> For me to be an op here would be a big tip off that it's not a place for them. It's a place for anti-anons.
[20:47] <@Sonar_Guy> 21:19 < mach> And guys like BB and others will relax and enjoy the lack of my ability to have a say in operations. [20:47] <@Sonar_Guy> 21:20 < mach> You will need that if you want any of this to work
[20:47] <@Sonar_Guy> Nuff Said on the TOPIC! [20:47] <@mach> I know what I said. Thank you. [20:47] <@tyrdr0p> If you know what you said, then why go back on it, if it wasn't for your vendetta?
[20:48] <@mach> The question now is... who the hell are you guys to refuse my op. 00[20:48] <@Cephurs> ahh. [20:48] <@mach> Which one of you claims the authority to do so? [20:48] <@Sonar_Guy> I do based on ^^
[20:48] <@tyrdr0p> ^ [20:48] <@Sonar_Guy> done get over it! [20:49] <@mach> No deal sonar 00[20:49] <@Cephurs> back to the control issue i was going to address earlier. remember when #jester had no ops? control corrupts
[20:49] <@Sonar_Guy> You said not to do it! I followed "YOUR" instructions! [20:49] <@mach> fuck all of you then. 06[20:49] * @Kalypto is walpaper and staying out of this since I was AFK when it all went down.
00[20:49] <@Cephurs> wow mach [20:49] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: for following what you said to do? [20:49] <@tyrdr0p> That's class. [20:50] <@tyrdr0p> Thanks. 00[20:50] <@Cephurs> i'm thinking this is a no win situation mach
00[20:50] <@Cephurs> for us 00[20:50] <@Cephurs> what's up? 00[20:50] <@Cephurs> jesterspub was for anything goes [20:50] <@mach> random couldn't have voice and no one gives a shit. I can't have ops on request and you all stand by that.
[20:51] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: You just said that is what you said! Why would you go back on that? [20:51] <@Sonar_Guy> I followed your wishes! Sorry for doing what you said. [20:52] <@mach> Did I ever say to NEVER OP ME EVEN WHEN I ASK YOU TO? no I said take me off auto-op. I said I would op situationally.
[20:52] <@Sonar_Guy> 04-06.log:21:16 <@mach> No, don't op me here. <------------- that is what you said! 00[20:52] <@Cephurs> and i already said that had I seen you ask for ops i'd give it
[20:52] <@tyrdr0p> And when exactly did all of this become "mach runs the show"? o.O That has me a bit confused. [20:52] <@Sonar_Guy> 04-06.log:21:17 < mach> It will be better for several reasons if I'm not. <--------------- your words
[20:53] <@Kalypto> *sigh* This doesn't have to be like this guys... Lets just set some ground rules for how to deal with this type of situation in the future... [20:53] <@Sonar_Guy> I see no mention of auto-op
[20:53] <@mach> What the fuck would it matter? I asked for an op today. [20:53] <@tyrdr0p> We had agreed to work as a team. And when others of us felt as though ONE OP's actions were detrimental to the chan(s), that democracy should rule out. I thought that's what we agreed. Executive decisions and whatnot
[20:54] <@Kalypto> Please? [20:54] <@tyrdr0p> I am up for peaceful compromise. 00[20:54] <@Cephurs> and mach, had you played along with the plan and gone into the pub without ops, you should know that we would have your back, your front, and both sides
[20:55] <@mach> who the fuck are you to tell me now when I have BB pastebinning my name all over accusing me of things and why the hell can't I go in there to talk with him? [20:55] <@mach> with my fucking op.
[20:55] <@tyrdr0p> Have you been called? 00[20:55] <@Cephurs> so if bb was too vicious we would have stopped him [20:55] <@tyrdr0p> Have you been literally harassed? [20:55] <@tyrdr0p> Have you been doxed?
[20:55] <@mach> WHO HAD MY BACK????? i ASKED AND ASKED AND NOBODY SAID SHIT TO ME [20:55] <@tyrdr0p> Threatened? 06[20:56] * @tyrdr0p takes a deep breath and remembers, "this is the internet." :)
[20:56] <@mach> DOXED THREATENED CALLED MAILED 00[20:56] <@Cephurs> there was no chance to have your back as apparently you were screaming for ops in cybercom [20:56] <@Sonar_Guy> you were not even in #jesterspub at that time.
[20:56] <@mach> what fucking ever. it is wrong. i am pissed. 00[20:57] <@Cephurs> you got ops [20:57] <@tyrdr0p> <@Sonar_Guy> you were not even in #jesterspub at that time. <<<<<<< This
00[20:57] <@Cephurs> you scared him off [20:57] <@mach> I have a right to handle my own shit my own way and I will. [20:57] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: you got pissed by whatever was said in PM and went off on us!
00[20:57] <@Cephurs> be pissed, but be clear [20:57] <@tyrdr0p> Not at the expense or risk of the others in the channel [20:58] <@mach> When it's you guys, it's your call. When it's me it's my call.
00[20:58] <@Cephurs> thats a good rule [20:58] <@tyrdr0p> Uhm. 00[20:58] <@Cephurs> but 00[20:58] <@Cephurs> bb is special [20:58] <@mach> How is my talking to BB with an op a threat to you guys?
[20:58] <@tyrdr0p> He's associating OPs with his enemies. [20:58] <@tyrdr0p> And anyone else in chan [20:58] <@tyrdr0p> with his enemies. [20:58] <@tyrdr0p> regardless [20:59] <@tyrdr0p> You piss him off.
00[20:59] <@Cephurs> getting him pissed and going back to his few anon friends left to finish what they started. we are on eachothers speed dials. [20:59] <@tyrdr0p> He's gonna go after everyone. 00[20:59] <@Cephurs> rj is jobless
[20:59] <@mach> you guys have ops in there every day? 00[20:59] <@Cephurs> take ops out of the pub except for when needed? [20:59] <@mach> How is my op a sudden threat? [21:00] <@tyrdr0p> The threat was your need to fight with him
[21:00] <@tyrdr0p> Because you HAVE to make your point. [21:00] <@tyrdr0p> And go after him because he's barret fucking brown [21:00] <@tyrdr0p> Why? [21:00] <@mach> You know what? I quit.
[21:00] <@tyrdr0p> Why>? 00[21:00] <@Cephurs> your op isn't a threat, bb is the threat, or at least the most vocal atm. [21:00] <@tyrdr0p> Why? [21:00] <@mach> You don't know shit.
00[21:00] <@Cephurs> don't quit mach 00[21:01] <@Cephurs> i thought we were talking 00[21:01] <@Cephurs> the pub was your plan, correct? [21:01] <@mach> And I will not be bullied by BB just to please you.
00[21:01] <@Cephurs> a good plan 00[21:02] <@Cephurs> going in there without ops was set up for a reason. your reasoning for having to have ops to talk to bb is weak(nooffense) [21:02] <@tyrdr0p> And now, even after warning about the onslaught of Anons in either room, it's coming to this?
00[21:02] <@Cephurs> had he mouthed off to you there, we would have stopped it 00[21:03] <@Cephurs> hopefully the fbi will come through sooner than later and put a stop to all this bs 00[21:08] <@Cephurs> is that really th3j35t3r in tinychat?
00[21:11] <@Cephurs> that's it? 00[21:11] <@Cephurs> THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL AND I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT!! 00[21:11] <@Cephurs> jk 00[21:11] <@Cephurs> don't talk to me Session Close: Sat Apr 09 21:12:17 2011
Session Start: Sat Apr 09 21:12:17 2011 Session Ident: #uscybercom 00[21:12] * Disconnected 00[21:17] * Attempting to rejoin channel #uscybercom 03[21:17] * Rejoined channel #uscybercom 03[21:17] * Topic is 'US Cyber Command'
03[21:17] * Set by ChanServ!services@2600.net on Tue Apr 05 03:59:35 03[21:17] * sid sets mode: +o Cephurs 00[21:17] <@Cephurs> ahh fuck, timing is everything 00[21:18] <@Cephurs> what'd she last say?
[21:18] <@Kalypto> Kicking Asherah and Zud out... Make sure Anon knows here is no official tie between #jester ops and BTS. That doesnt mean dont talk to them, that means damage control. Everyone is royaly freaked right now with all the bullshit brought on by BTS being in the room all the time.
[21:18] <@bluesoul120> "fuck this" [21:18] <@bluesoul120> and left [21:18] <@SkyNet> -ChanServ- Maintains the SOP (SuperOP) list for a channel. The SOP [21:18] <@SkyNet> -ChanServ- list gives users all rights given by the AOP list, and adds
[21:18] <@SkyNet> -ChanServ- those needed to use the AutoKick and the BadWords lists, [21:18] <@SkyNet> -ChanServ- to send and read channel memos, and so on. [21:19] <@Kalypto> Limiting damage for a period of time is the only thing that will get shit back to the way it was and should be again.
[21:19] <@Sonar_Guy> Kalypto: agreed [21:20] <@tyrdr0p> What about a different possibility.... [21:20] <@tyrdr0p> What if we don't kick Ash or zud out, but rather.... [21:20] <@tyrdr0p> ask them to remain non-confrontational
[21:20] <@tyrdr0p> and change their nicks? [21:20] <@tyrdr0p> You think that could work? [21:20] <@tyrdr0p> Just throwing out suggestions. [21:20] <@Kalypto> Yeah... I see that happening...lol
[21:20] <@tyrdr0p> LOL! [21:20] <@SkyNet> we sholdnt have to [21:21] <@tyrdr0p> Yeah, me neither, but it was a suggestion. :P [21:21] <@Kalypto> I would have no problem with that, but I think the chances of them playing nice if someone like BB comes in the room are somewhere close to me winning the lotto.... twice...
[21:21] <@tyrdr0p> LOL [21:21] <@tyrdr0p> No, I agree with you Kalypto and SkyNet [21:21] <@tyrdr0p> Just throwing other options around. 00[21:22] <@Cephurs> dunno why it was such a big deal today
[21:22] <@tyrdr0p> Cephurs: I am of the opinion it's a control issue driven by a vendetta. [21:22] <@tyrdr0p> IMO 00[21:22] <@Cephurs> it is 00[21:23] <@Cephurs> i agree, whether mach will admit it is another issue
06[21:23] * @tyrdr0p nods. 00[21:23] <@Cephurs> sorry to digress, did any of you notice th3j35t3r in the tinychat [21:23] <@tyrdr0p> One thing that does irritate me is her doing some of this stuff in the name of th3j35t3r
[21:23] <@tyrdr0p> @_@ [21:23] <@bluesoul120> no Cephurs [21:23] <@bluesoul120> wtf [21:23] <@tyrdr0p> No I didn't Cephurs [21:24] <@bluesoul120> impersonator i'd imagine
[21:24] <@SkyNet> Jester's Pub | BYOB | A place for friends - Leave your 'group' affiliations at the door. [21:25] <@SkyNet> ^^ someone change topic on pub to that [21:25] <@tyrdr0p> How? o.O
00[21:25] <@Cephurs> they spelled it right, if it was an impersonator [21:25] <@SkyNet> copy and paste [21:25] <@Kalypto> Changed [21:25] <@SkyNet> thanks [21:25] <@tyrdr0p> Thanks
[21:25] <@tyrdr0p> What is the command? [21:25] <@tyrdr0p> Just so I know. [21:26] <@SkyNet> /topic [21:26] <@tyrdr0p> 10-4 [21:26] <@Kalypto> I use mIRC... I just have to open the chanel modes window...lol
[21:26] <@SkyNet> that to [21:26] <@SkyNet> =) [21:26] <@tyrdr0p> lol [21:28] <@Sonar_Guy> Ok gal is all caught up with the drama [21:28] <@tyrdr0p> kk [21:28] <@SkyNet> wheres she at?
[21:28] <@Kalypto> Im talkin to her... 00[21:28] <@Cephurs> did we fuck up gal? 00[21:29] <@Cephurs> does she see apoint that mach has that stupid males miss? [21:29] <@tyrdr0p> Talking to who Kalypto?
[21:29] <@Kalypto> Mach [21:29] <@tyrdr0p> Ah [21:29] <@tyrdr0p> Ok. [21:30] <@Kalypto> We all need to come to a common understanding... Otherwise this shit is gonna burn. [21:30] <@tyrdr0p> Meaning? o.O
[21:30] <@Sonar_Guy> Cephurs: no [21:31] <@Sonar_Guy> Nope she said "mach is being an ass", and she is considering if she really wants to hang out here anymore. [21:31] <@tyrdr0p> :( [21:32] <@bluesoul120> :(
[21:32] <@bluesoul120> well she can hang with us 06[21:32] * @SkyNet will go hungry :( [21:32] <@tyrdr0p> ^ [21:32] <@bluesoul120> cuz it doesn't look like mach is gonna be in here [21:32] <@Sonar_Guy> btw that is from her reading the logs not from talking to me.
[21:32] <@Kalypto> Has everyone read the pad? 00[21:32] <@Cephurs> ok, my .02: mach felt burned today when we didn't auto give her ops, despite anything she said in the past. we should have given it to her right then or planned with her in case BB was a dick to her., i'm guessing, me and women, ugh
[21:32] <@bluesoul120> nah Kalypto [21:32] <@bluesoul120> can you paste again [21:33] <@tyrdr0p> Quite possible Cephurs. But I don't like being dictated to in the fashion she did. [21:33] <@Sonar_Guy> Cephurs: 1 she was not even in the channel, 2 Pissed off with ops leads to bad things.
00[21:33] <@Cephurs> i'll make you all pizza [21:33] <@tyrdr0p> ^' [21:34] <@tyrdr0p> :D [21:34] <@Sonar_Guy> Kalypto: past the pad again please 00[21:34] <@Cephurs> i didn't like it either tyr. agreed sg
[21:34] <@tyrdr0p> I have had to result to listening to Nile to calm down. :/ [21:34] <@tyrdr0p> http://uscybercom.modsteam.net:9000/RuleSuggestions
00[21:34] <@Cephurs> lol [21:34] <@Sonar_Guy> Cephurs: making burritos here [21:34] <@Kalypto> http://uscybercom.modsteam.net:9000/RuleSuggestions
00[21:34] <@Cephurs> mmmm [21:35] <@Kalypto> Can I have steak on my pizza? [21:35] <@tyrdr0p> Expensive ass [21:35] <@tyrdr0p> LOL 00[21:35] <@Cephurs> YES KAL 00[21:35] <@Cephurs> steak for all
[21:36] <@tyrdr0p> SCORE! [21:36] <@Kalypto> w00t [21:37] <@bluesoul120> idk this whole situation is retarded imo. she asked not to be op'd so she wouldn't be a target of anon [21:37] <@tyrdr0p> ^
00[21:37] <@Cephurs> yeah, it might be a mach thing [21:37] <@tyrdr0p> I agree. 00[21:37] <@Cephurs> she had a bad day 00[21:37] <@Cephurs> hope she doesn't stay pissed [21:37] <@SkyNet> let her have #jester and we take #jesterspub?
[21:37] <@tyrdr0p> I am okay with that SkyNet 00[21:37] <@Cephurs> not a bad idea [21:38] <@bluesoul120> that's fine with me [21:38] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: also, I was the one on the phone who told BB that mach, cephurs, and rjacksix have nothing to do with the doxing to the best of my knowledge. I took that heat.
[21:38] <@Sonar_Guy> I am that one that had a vested intrest for her not to go off on him and piss him off. 00[21:38] <@Cephurs> fuck, i was hoping it would come out today, that bb would see that mach isn't ..... blechthppt
00[21:39] <@Cephurs> yeah, gonna go make a burrito [21:39] <@tyrdr0p> Can I haz one? :D 06[21:40] * @SkyNet is afk [21:40] <@Sonar_Guy> I was also the one in #jesterspub, that told him she was not an op in there and then had to give it to her.
00[21:40] <@Cephurs> of course, two for tyr 00[21:40] <@Cephurs> yes sg 00[21:40] <@Cephurs> that bugged me too [21:40] <@tyrdr0p> SCIRE! [21:41] <@tyrdr0p> SCORE* [21:41] <@tyrdr0p> Yeah
[21:41] <@tyrdr0p> Sonar_Guy 00[21:41] <@Cephurs> i was thinking of trying to explain that to bb, but didn't want to show a weakness in us 00[21:41] <@Cephurs> mach screwed up today 00[21:41] <@Cephurs> just like bb screwed up calling us
Session Close: Sat Apr 09 21:45:07 2011
Session Start: Sat Apr 09 21:45:07 2011 Session Ident: #uscybercom 00[21:45] * Disconnected 00[21:51] * Attempting to rejoin channel #uscybercom 03[21:51] * Rejoined channel #uscybercom
03[21:51] * Topic is 'US Cyber Command' 03[21:51] * Set by ChanServ!services@2600.net on Tue Apr 05 03:59:35 11[21:51] -sid- [#uscybercom] This is a secure channel for Ops and Half-Ops of #jester Only. Please do not discuss anything in this channel in channel #jester.
11[21:51] -sid- [#2600] www.2600.com [21:51] <@SkyNet> leave it locked for now, until the masses get used to going to #jesterspub 03[21:51] * sid sets mode: +o Cephurs [21:52] <@SkyNet> whos left in #jester? user wise
[21:52] <@SkyNet> anyone? [21:52] <@bluesoul120> Whatever you guys wanna do I'll go along with. If you want a split for now that's fine. I don't feel like dealing with op drama when we have other drama going on
[21:52] <@tyrdr0p> FTDubbs, chatter, and jax [21:52] <@bluesoul120> ftdubbs, jax, and chatter [21:52] <@tyrdr0p> jax = chan op on #2600 [21:52] <@tyrdr0p> chatter = my punching bag. [21:53] <@bluesoul120> ftdubbs is a lucky cunt who got back in
[21:53] <@tyrdr0p> FTDubbs was here the day #jester was created. [21:53] <@tyrdr0p> BRB, whiskey. [21:54] <@bluesoul120> mmm vodka on the rocks [21:54] <@bluesoul120> yummy yummy [21:54] <@SkyNet> is jax in jesterspub to?
[21:54] <@bluesoul120> yeah 06[21:54] * @Sonar_Guy is nom, nom, noming burritos still [21:55] <@bluesoul120> yummy guy [21:56] <@SkyNet> op on #nc2600 to. willing to bet he lives in NC =) [21:56] <@bluesoul120> she does
[21:56] <@SkyNet> prolly in Jacksonville [21:56] <@bluesoul120> raleigh(sp like a bitch) [21:56] <@bluesoul120> ah maybe [21:56] <@SkyNet> you spelled it right, btw [21:57] <@SkyNet> jax is a she?
[21:57] <@bluesoul120> nice [21:57] <@bluesoul120> yep a girl [21:57] <@bluesoul120> she's pretty cool [21:57] <@bluesoul120> http://jackiesingh.com/
[21:57] <@bluesoul120> ^her [21:59] <@tyrdr0p> WOO! Whiskey shots made my nips hard. ?_? [21:59] <@tyrdr0p> LMAO! [21:59] <@bluesoul120> lol [21:59] <@Sonar_Guy> lol [21:59] <@SkyNet> TMI!
[22:00] <@bluesoul120> I'm trying to get used to the taste of this shit again [22:00] <@tyrdr0p> ROFL! 00[22:00] <@Cephurs> i alwasy wondered what nips on guys were for, now i know, whiskey-o-meters
[22:00] <@bluesoul120> xD [22:00] <@tyrdr0p> lara is now in #jester [22:00] <@SkyNet> lol [22:00] <@tyrdr0p> o.O [22:00] <@tyrdr0p> Tried to invite to pub [22:00] <@bluesoul120> someone invited her
[22:00] <@tyrdr0p> But she's in #jester [22:00] <@tyrdr0p> xD Cephurs [22:00] <@tyrdr0p> Agreed! [22:01] <@Kalypto> Time for me to catch the next boat to the island... Ill be back in about 40
[22:01] <@bluesoul120> lol [22:01] <@bluesoul120> later Kalypto [22:01] <@bluesoul120> you better come back [22:01] <@tyrdr0p> 10-4 [22:01] <@SkyNet> l8r kal [22:01] <@Sonar_Guy> l8r Kalypto
00[22:02] * @Kalypto (~Kalypto@raskin.torservers.net) Quit [22:05] <@SkyNet> Sonar, wanna see a cool trick: http://ubuntu.online02.com/node/14
[22:06] <@Sonar_Guy> SkyNet: lol I did that with fedora a while back, stole the theme from linpus iirc [22:07] <@SkyNet> GnackTrack R6 has it as a command =) [22:07] <@Sonar_Guy> had a theme to make xp look like mac os x
[22:09] <@SkyNet> lol [22:09] <@Sonar_Guy> I want a theme to make ubuntu look like OS/2 [22:10] <@Sonar_Guy> that would make my ctcp version even better!! 06[22:32] * @bluesoul120 dances [22:32] <@bluesoul120> what's everyone up to?
[22:35] <@SkyNet> trying to fix vmware workstation [22:38] <@Sonar_Guy> haha I have xo spazzing now!! [22:39] <@bluesoul120> ilol [22:39] <@bluesoul120> lol* [22:40] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: I am about to fall off the couch laughing
[22:40] <@bluesoul120> lol [22:41] <@bluesoul120> I'm not even paying attention [22:41] <@bluesoul120> I'm buzzed can only pay attention to 1 thing at a time [22:44] <@Sonar_Guy> haha
[22:44] <@bluesoul120> I drank way too much in a short amount of time Session Close: Sat Apr 09 22:47:15 2011
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11[22:48] -sid- [#jesterspub] Where's my scooby snacks? 11[22:48] -sid- [#uscybercom] This is a secure channel for Ops and Half-Ops of #jester Only. Please do not discuss anything in this channel in channel #jester.
11[22:48] -sid- [#2600] www.2600.com [22:48] <@bluesoul120> Sonar_Guy, why you deop? [22:49] <@Sonar_Guy> no need to be opped all the time. [22:49] <@bluesoul120> i guess
00[22:49] * @Cephurs (~wtf@net-93-147-40-101.cust.dsl.teletu.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:49] <@Sonar_Guy> Hell in freenode I dont ever op, just use a bot to do the dirty work.
[22:49] <@bluesoul120> lol [22:49] <@bluesoul120> I don't have op in freenode except on my own channel [22:50] <@bluesoul120> no one goes there anymore [22:50] <@bluesoul120> not even me xD
[22:50] <@tyrdr0p> Oh shit. [22:50] <@tyrdr0p> http://www.facebook.com/branndon.pike [22:50] <@tyrdr0p> ShadowDXS [22:50] <@tyrdr0p> Wow.
[22:50] <@Sonar_Guy> lol I have op in about 15 - 20 channels there, dont even remember anymore. Most of them dont have problems only 2 or 3 do. [22:51] <@Sonar_Guy> you didnt know that about him? [22:51] <@tyrdr0p> I did not know his FB
[22:51] <@tyrdr0p> No. [22:51] <@Sonar_Guy> lol [22:52] <@tyrdr0p> who's lucid? bluesoul120? [22:52] <@bluesoul120> idk [22:53] <@Sonar_Guy> SkyNet: is the ops site broke still?
[22:53] <@bluesoul120> ops site? [22:53] <@bluesoul120> wah? [22:53] <@SkyNet> shouldnt be [22:53] <@Sonar_Guy> Hmm I cant login any more. [22:54] <@Sonar_Guy> Failed to log you in. Please check your login data and try again
06[22:54] * @bluesoul120 still wonders wtf you're talking bout 00[23:04] <cep> who is james 00[23:04] <cep> lol [23:08] <@bluesoul120> dunno [23:11] <@bluesoul120> tyr you sound like a youngen
[23:11] <@tyrdr0p> lol [23:11] <@bluesoul120> you do [23:11] <@bluesoul120> xD 03[23:20] * mach (~mach@109.123.119.163) has joined #uscybercom 03[23:20] * sid sets mode: +o mach
[23:20] <@bluesoul120> hi mach [23:20] <@mach> hi blue [23:20] <@mach> sad [23:21] <@bluesoul120> :\ [23:21] <@mach> Talked some with Kal. [23:21] <@bluesoul120> i see
[23:22] <@mach> Don't know what to do but leave irc to you guys and move elsewhere. [23:22] <@bluesoul120> no mach [23:22] <@bluesoul120> don't leave [23:22] <@bluesoul120> let's figure shit out
[23:22] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: that is not what we want. [23:23] <@bluesoul120> I enjoy having you here. We can come to some conclusion if we just act civil [23:23] <@mach> But we have different agenda's and different needs.
[23:23] <@Sonar_Guy> we make a team, we all compliment each other [23:23] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I have no agenda, I am here to learn. [23:23] <@Sonar_Guy> well you could say that is an agenda, maybe.
[23:24] <@mach> I do have an agenda. That is a problem. [23:24] <@bluesoul120> I just came here to hangout and I became an op. My agenda is protecting you guys [23:24] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: mine too
[23:24] <@bluesoul120> lets just figure shit out [23:24] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: I agree [23:25] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: Maybe I need to be clued in to your agenda [23:26] <@mach> Unfortunately, my agenda is not something that can be shared here. I get that it would make it easier for you all, but there it is.
[23:26] <@Sonar_Guy> I can understand that. [23:27] <@Sonar_Guy> I do want to say one thing though. [23:27] <@Sonar_Guy> I have had your back and everybody elses back since I have been here, [23:28] <@Sonar_Guy> I tried to keep you, ceph and rjack out of the limelight when I first talked to BB on the phone.
[23:28] <@mach> I believe you sonar, but it has not felt that way, and in most things I have been very alone. [23:28] <@mach> I appreciate that. [23:28] <@Sonar_Guy> I was the one that told him you three had nothing to do with the doxing
[23:29] <@Sonar_Guy> Me not giving you ops was having your back. Being pissed off with ops does not end well. [23:29] <@mach> That was not what I needed. And it was in direct opposition. [23:29] <@Sonar_Guy> I have been an op on freenode for many years, I know from experience.
[23:30] <@mach> Do you know anything about me to judge my experiences? [23:30] <@Sonar_Guy> No I do not! [23:30] <@mach> Do you know what I am or am not capable of? [23:30] <@Sonar_Guy> Nope and I would not state otherwise
[23:31] <@mach> Then thank you all the same, I need to make my own decisions. [23:31] <@Sonar_Guy> based on that statement, how can I have your back? [23:32] <@Sonar_Guy> I did what I did in the best intrest of all of the ops, not just you, or me.
[23:32] <@mach> It is I who will get the consequences of my actions. There are calculated moves designed to protect what is important. [23:32] <@Sonar_Guy> no not just you, all of us. BB believes in guilt by association.
[23:33] <@Sonar_Guy> You know that better than anyone. [23:33] <@Sonar_Guy> Based on your discussion today with him. [23:33] <@mach> Then why are any of you ops? Why does Jester not get de-oped for putting you in danger by his treatment of BB?
[23:34] <@Sonar_Guy> What do you want from me mach? [23:35] <@Sonar_Guy> I did not deop anybody. [23:35] <@Sonar_Guy> I only did what you asked [23:35] <@mach> An answer to that - at this moment. Not sure we will agree on a solution.
[23:35] <@Sonar_Guy> nothing more nothing less. You wanted to be out of the drama, that is what I attempted to do. [23:35] <@Sonar_Guy> Shoot me for doing what you asked. [23:36] <@Sonar_Guy> I can leave if that is what you want.
[23:37] <@bluesoul120> no no I don't want anyone to leave. leaving isn't a solution [23:37] <@bluesoul120> that just means 1 less op [23:37] <@mach> Stop with that sonar... you know full well that that is nothing but bs. I asked for an op today, you had no right to refuse it under any circumstances.
[23:37] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: if it will make peace here again, I will do that. [23:38] <@mach> I am not asking you to leave, I am asking you to leave my decisions to me. Big difference. [23:39] <@mach> I have business to take care of. It was my reason for being here to begin with. Although inconvenient and saddening, another venue can be used.
[23:39] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: np, I will do that from here on out. I am not here to make waves. Only trying to keep people safe. I thought that was what I have doing, maybe I was wrong. [23:41] <@Sonar_Guy> You have expressed numerous times that you wanted no part of the Anon drama. I tried to stop you from becoming part of it. I will defer to your better judgement from now on.
[23:41] <@mach> Refusing to roll with the changes and cementing my (partial) words as you see fit was not protecting me, or Jester. [23:41] <@Sonar_Guy> stop J was not part of it, you were. Or are you J?
[23:42] <@mach> lol [23:42] <@Sonar_Guy> Cause your sure starting to sound like him now. [23:42] <@mach> shit happens [23:43] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: so where do we go from here? [23:44] <@mach> I liked Kal's ideas that he posted for the most part. But... there is no way random or I will be pushed out. It is up to Jester and ourselves to stay or go, to op or not.
[23:44] <@mach> No one else is going to make those decisions for us. [23:45] <@SkyNet> what does rand have to do this? just curious [23:45] <@Sonar_Guy> but those are pipe dreams, the first time somebody is not here an a decision is made there will be hell to pay for it!
[23:45] <@mach> If there is overwhelming evidence, it needs to be taken to Jester to decide. [23:46] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: and J has said it is up to us to make the decisions for the channels, so now we are at a catch-22
[23:46] <@mach> Random was muted in the pub. [23:46] <@SkyNet> rand has ops on pub, ops dont get muted [23:47] <@mach> I tried to find out why and I got nothing from anyone, completely ignored. I thought there was a silly mistake, but no one will help resolve it.
[23:47] <@mach> If I had gotten a round of 'gee i don't know' then I'd know it was some kind on glitch or something. [23:48] <@mach> But couldn't even get that. [23:48] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I think I have a better solution, that was proposed earlier.
[23:49] <@Sonar_Guy> You have your agenda that you wont disclose, so I think it is best that I leave #jester and focus on #jesterspub, and you can focus on #jester. [23:49] <@mach> Sonar, Jester has it set up that ops make channel decisions, yes, but never was it even implied to de-op his.
[23:49] <@Sonar_Guy> Therby eliminating the issue. [23:49] <@SkyNet> Jester has never been deop'ed [23:49] <@Sonar_Guy> I will have my ops removed from #jester. [23:50] <@mach> You are only wiling to stay in #jester if you can have op power over me sonar?
[23:50] <@mach> Not getting this. [23:51] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: no, what I am saying is I will stay out of #jester and allow you to have your agenda. I will stick to #jesterspubs since we cannot see eye to eye on this.
[23:51] <@mach> What I meant Sky, is that Jester op'd me, Jester de-op me. We do not all have the same reasons for being here. [23:52] <@mach> I think I'm uncomfortable with that sonar. [23:52] <@Sonar_Guy> why?
[23:52] <@SkyNet> you were deoped on #jester? i didnt know that. [23:53] <@mach> You should have your op in #jester sonar and I should be able to take mine in the pub when I want it. [23:53] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: how will me not being in #jester affect your agenda.
[23:53] <@mach> It solves nothing sonar. [23:53] <@Sonar_Guy> I never said you would not have your op in #jesterspub [23:54] <@Sonar_Guy> sure it does, I will not be interfering with your agenda, that is what your saying I am doing.
[23:55] <@mach> I see no point in you not having op in #jester. I asked you not to rule over me. That is all. [23:55] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: how will me not being in #jester affect your agenda.[01:26] <@mach> Unfortunately, my agenda is not something that can be shared here. I get that it would make it easier for you all, but there it is.
[23:56] <@mach> As far as I know sky, no one was de-oped in #jester. [23:56] <@Sonar_Guy> [01:26] <@mach> Unfortunately, my agenda is not something that can be shared here. I get that it would make it easier for you all, but there it is.
[23:56] <@Sonar_Guy> you said as much right here ^^ 03[23:56] * Kalypto (~Apate@85.17.254.135) has joined #uscybercom 03[23:56] * sid sets mode: +o Kalypto [23:56] <@Sonar_Guy> If I am not in #jester it will help your agenda
[23:56] <@bluesoul120> wb kal [23:57] <@Kalypto> Sup people? [23:57] <@Sonar_Guy> not much Kalypto just hashing this mess out. [23:57] <@mach> You being there is no kind of problem. Making decisions about my ability to move as I see fit, is.
[23:58] <@mach> I don't see the connection with you being in #jester and me having ops or not in the pub. [23:58] <@Sonar_Guy> you cant have it both ways. Either I am in the way or I am not. You have made it clear I am in the way of your ability to make your own decisions.
[23:58] <@Kalypto> Whoa, why is #jester empty? [23:58] <@mach> empty? [23:59] <@mach> What happened? [23:59] <@Kalypto> me, sid, dubbs, jax, lara, sonar_logger2, thats it... [23:59] <@mach> Did you guys clear it? Did you leave there already sonar?
Session Time: Sun Apr 10 00:00:00 2011 [00:00] <@Sonar_Guy> I left logger. But that is because J said somehow it makes him feel comfortable that the logger is there. [00:00] <@SkyNet> i havent been in there since ck left
[00:02] <@mach> Sonar, please understand the difference between being in #jester and making decisions for me. They are entirely different things. [00:02] <@Sonar_Guy> I can talk to J in #jesterspub, I really have no need to be there.
[00:02] <@Kalypto> O_O [00:02] <@Sonar_Guy> No but if I am interfering with your agenda, it does [00:03] <@mach> If you decide to be in the way of my agenda, you can manage that from any of these locations. Right? So that is just silly.
[00:03] <@mach> If you decide no to stand in my way, then it still matters not whether you are here there or in left field. [00:04] <@Sonar_Guy> no because in #jesterspub I will not draw the undesirable individuals into #jester. I tend to enjoy talking to people that are associated with groups you do not wish to be involved with.
[00:04] <@mach> But when I ask for an op in the pub, I will still fully expect you to grant it, as I do the others. [00:05] <@mach> So being in #jester or not makes no difference. [00:05] <@Sonar_Guy> I will grant it if I am here. Otherwise it can not be hleped.
[00:05] <@mach> obviously. [00:05] <@Sonar_Guy> Problem solved then. [00:06] <@mach> Almost. [00:06] <@Sonar_Guy> But I also expect you to not kick people from #jesterspub that I wish to talk with.
[00:06] <@mach> Have I kicked anyone? [00:07] <@Sonar_Guy> not as of yet. [00:07] <@mach> Did I not say earlier that because ceph asked me not to kick BB I didn't? [00:07] <@Sonar_Guy> Otherwise I can not accomplish my goal of learning!
[00:08] <@Sonar_Guy> I did not see that, but meh I could have missed it. [00:08] <@mach> That's all it takes, ask me and I will go along with whatever you guys have on your agenda's. [00:09] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: Good I will ask you to kick nobody from #jesterspub then.
[00:09] <@mach> You missed it. You missed me not kicking him also. [00:09] <@mach> I will not make any promises of the sort. [00:09] <@Sonar_Guy> why not? [00:09] <@Sonar_Guy> [02:08] <@mach> That's all it takes, ask me and I will go along with whatever you guys have on your agenda's
[00:10] <@Sonar_Guy> my agenda is to see nobody kicked from #jesterspub. [00:10] <@mach> sonar. you are not helping. [00:10] <@Sonar_Guy> why not? [00:10] <@mach> I cannot reason with you and work anything out with such an attitude.
[00:10] <@Sonar_Guy> you said ask I asked. [00:10] <@Sonar_Guy> that is my wish. [00:11] <@Sonar_Guy> I have given in to your wishes. [00:11] <@mach> Ok. Let's rearrange this. No one is going to like it, but we're not making reasonable headway....
[00:12] <@Sonar_Guy> Ok how about this. You stick to #jester, I will stick to #jesterspub. [00:12] <@Sonar_Guy> is at a good idea? [00:12] <@mach> You will not tell me anything. That is a problem we are having.
[00:13] <@Sonar_Guy> You wont tell me anythig so what is the diff? [00:13] <@mach> I will go in there and do what I need to do whenever I feel like doing it. [00:13] <@Sonar_Guy> You have an agenda, I have an agenda.
[00:13] <@mach> I do my best to accommodate. But I will not take orders from you. [00:14] <@Sonar_Guy> you wont spell out your agenda so where is the compromise? [00:14] <@mach> sonar - knock it off.
[00:14] <@mach> oh? [00:14] <@Sonar_Guy> I am not giving you orders! [00:14] <@Sonar_Guy> I told you my agenda, to learn. Did you forget that quick? [00:14] <@Sonar_Guy> I cannot learn without talking to people, what is your agenda?
[00:14] <@Sonar_Guy> Next? [00:15] <@mach> sonar - leave it alone. back off before this gets worse. [00:15] <@Sonar_Guy> what? I have to share you dont? How is that a negotiation? [00:16] <@mach> No. I do not have to share.
[00:16] <@Sonar_Guy> well see there is the issue? [00:16] <@mach> I never said you did either. [00:16] <@Sonar_Guy> we are just supposed to do what you want when you want without question? [00:17] <@Sonar_Guy> I guess you dont need to be opped in #jesterspub then!
[00:17] <@Sonar_Guy> End of story. [00:17] <@mach> Sonar... I do not need to negotiate jack shit with any of you, I choose to. [00:17] <@Sonar_Guy> Fine neither do I!Q [00:17] <@tyrdr0p> Way to be a "team player" mach
[00:17] <@mach> Sonar, you are not understanding. [00:17] <@Sonar_Guy> Nor are you! [00:18] <@Sonar_Guy> Its machs way or the highway! [00:18] <@Sonar_Guy> Whoops did I just say that outloud? sorry
[00:20] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: care to comment or are you done talking to me? [00:21] <@Sonar_Guy> mach?? [00:21] <@Sonar_Guy> Nobody said I had to negotiate with you. I chose to. [00:26] <@tyrdr0p> Sooooo....
06[00:26] * @tyrdr0p scratches head [00:26] <@tyrdr0p> Hi? [00:26] <@tyrdr0p> :D [00:26] <@Kalypto> Hi... [00:26] <@Sonar_Guy> Hi 06[00:26] * @Kalypto hands Tyr some skittles and bacon flavored vodka
[00:26] <@tyrdr0p> Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work we go? :D [00:26] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: do you wish to continue this negotiation? [00:26] <@tyrdr0p> Feck yeah Kalypto [00:27] <@tyrdr0p> If there were bacon flavored skittles, I'd be set.
[00:27] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: or are we done? and we agree to disagree? [00:27] <@Kalypto> hmm :p [00:28] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: ... [00:28] <@sid> Free bacon skittles for everyone! [00:29] <@tyrdr0p> HELLZ YEAH!
[00:29] <@mach> The understanding is this sonar... [00:29] <@Sonar_Guy> yes [00:30] <@Sonar_Guy> listening. . . [00:30] <@mach> I am through having to argue with any of you do get permission for things I don't need permission for. Call me all the names you want.
[00:31] <@Sonar_Guy> I have not called you one name. [00:31] <@Sonar_Guy> I would never do that [00:31] <@Sonar_Guy> I was under the impression we were trying to hash this ou? [00:31] <@mach> Put me back on auto-op with sid please.
[00:31] <@Sonar_Guy> your on auto-op in #jester [00:32] <@Sonar_Guy> I have no control over that [00:32] <@Sonar_Guy> or control of any other channel [00:32] <@mach> In jesterspub. Sky or blue will you get that done for me please?
[00:33] <@Sonar_Guy> I guess we are done our discussion? [00:33] <@mach> If you don't want to do that I will have Jester handle it. Waste of time, though. [00:34] <@SkyNet> not at this time mach. I'm not confy with the mach's way or the highway deal
[00:34] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I gave you a concession you run #jester and leave me alone in #jesterspub [00:34] <@Sonar_Guy> is that not an amicable decision? [00:35] <@mach> You think I can't have op in the pub also sky? Why did you not say so much sooner that this?
[00:35] <@mach> No sonar, that does not work for me. [00:35] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: you have not said why? [00:35] <@Sonar_Guy> it was your proposition if I recall correctly [00:35] <@mach> stop it sonar.
[00:36] <@Sonar_Guy> Jhidaists, wbc and #jester regulars in #jester and everbody else in #jesterspub [00:36] <@SkyNet> because right now you are not willing to compromise with Sonar on anything. and some of the statments made to him were more threating then having a discussion
[00:36] <@mach> What I planned backfired when I needed to defend myself. [00:36] <@mach> What was threatening? I didn't mean to sound like there was any threat? [00:37] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: you had every option to invite him to #jester to discuss your issues.
[00:37] <@mach> sonar - it was not your call to decide where I could talk to BB or whether or not I was op or not. [00:37] <@tyrdr0p> Uhm.... [00:38] <@tyrdr0p> You're right. [00:38] <@tyrdr0p> Sonar and I both agreed.
[00:38] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I did not make that decision, You talked to him on your terms [00:38] <@tyrdr0p> You shouldn't have OPs in pub because that's what you wanted [00:38] <@Sonar_Guy> as an OP as I recall
[00:38] <@tyrdr0p> And you wanted it for your "agenda" or whatever. [00:38] <@tyrdr0p> And I felt it was a detriment to the chan [00:38] <@tyrdr0p> Therefore, I also helped in that decision
[00:38] <@tyrdr0p> BUT [00:38] <@mach> yes tyr. [00:39] <@tyrdr0p> In the end [00:39] <@tyrdr0p> Didn't you end up with OPs any way? [00:39] <@Sonar_Guy> I gave in and gave it to you!
[00:39] <@tyrdr0p> o.O [00:39] <@tyrdr0p> Even at the advisement of two other channel operators that it was NOT a good idea. [00:39] <@mach> After I talked to Jester - 06[00:39] * @tyrdr0p facepalms.
[00:40] <@tyrdr0p> Where's the proof of that? [00:40] <@mach> Are you fucking kidding me? [00:40] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: this is not about Jester. He says we "the OPs" are to manage what occurs on IRC
[00:40] <@tyrdr0p> you told me earlier, "Don't speak for th3j35t3r", but I'll be damned if you don't toss around his name like a toy. [00:40] <@tyrdr0p> And mach. I won't speak for anyone else here right now....
[00:41] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I went against the other OPs better judgements and gave you ops for your discussion. [00:41] <@Sonar_Guy> Guys I am sorry I did that, It wont happen again. [00:41] <@Sonar_Guy> so mach Are you fucking kidding me?
[00:41] <@tyrdr0p> But I find it offensive, demeaning, undermining, and low down that when you don't get your way you run to th3j35t3r like a spoiled bratty tattle tale. The man doesn't get the full side of the story and only hears from you. That, to me, is fucking bull shit and uncalled for.
[00:42] <@SkyNet> tyr, chill 06[00:42] * @tyrdr0p zips it. [00:43] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: 3 or 4 other ops told me not to but I did against their better judgement. [00:43] <@Sonar_Guy> Because we are supposed to be a team, however I am seeing mor and more there is an I in this team.
[00:44] <@Sonar_Guy> and you are that I [00:46] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: you know the other day when you said I cut your legs out from under you? [00:46] <@Sonar_Guy> What did you do to me today? [00:46] <@mach> And this are all some very good reasons why I will be going elsewhere. The inconvenience is outweighed by these problems.
[00:46] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: that is not what we want, we want to work this out, but you seem to think that only we should compromise [00:47] <@Sonar_Guy> you feel that your agenda is more important than anybody elses.
[00:47] <@Sonar_Guy> Is that fair? [00:47] <@Sonar_Guy> Have you been called at home, at work, had your children threatened? [00:48] <@Sonar_Guy> HAVE YOU? [00:48] <@Sonar_Guy> I am not the only one that has
[00:48] <@Sonar_Guy> Ed has [00:48] <@Sonar_Guy> Robin Has [00:48] <@Sonar_Guy> CK has [00:48] <@Sonar_Guy> have you? [00:48] <@Sonar_Guy> so when does our agenda get taken into account?
[00:48] <@mach> You have no fucking idea what I've been through... don't even go there with me. [00:49] <@Sonar_Guy> Oh really, has anon called you? [00:49] <@Sonar_Guy> Has your supervisor at work been called by anon?
[00:49] <@Sonar_Guy> Tell me has it happened? [00:50] <@mach> I said don't go there. [00:50] <@Sonar_Guy> Has your fucking livelyhood been threatened? [00:50] <@Sonar_Guy> I am going there it has happened to me!
[00:50] <@mach> Back off and let me cool off long enough to say good bye in a nice friendly manner. [00:51] <@Sonar_Guy> no, tell me has it happened? [00:51] <@mach> You don't know when to quit, do you?
[00:51] <@Sonar_Guy> No I dont!@ [00:51] <@Sonar_Guy> no, tell me has it happened? [00:51] <@Sonar_Guy> just like you dont [00:52] <@Sonar_Guy> see you and I have some things in common, we are the bread winners for our families
[00:52] <@mach> Sonar. I am not going to deal with any of this. I am going to leave so there is no more problems. I am asking you to back of and let me calm down and say goodbye. [00:53] <@Sonar_Guy> and this anon shit threatens all of us just as it did rjack
[00:53] <@mach> I understand that you are upset over the things that anon does. We all are. [00:54] <@Sonar_Guy> right, and if it has happened do you, you do also. [00:54] <@SkyNet> mach, no one is saying you have to leave. and by doing so, you're leaving cause you chose to and not cause we want you to.
[00:54] <@mach> If? [00:54] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I am sympathiziing with you. [00:54] <@Sonar_Guy> I dont know if it has or has not as you wont tell me [00:55] <@Sonar_Guy> I just want you to understand what I am dealing with.
[00:55] <@mach> I have told you guys before. They had me three times and I slipped away. It was not easy, I had to work at it. But it did work. [00:55] <@Sonar_Guy> talk, I and I am sure everybody else is willing to listen
[00:56] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: well I am too public to slip away [00:56] <@Sonar_Guy> I knew that from day one. [00:56] <@Sonar_Guy> do a gooogle search on my nick, the first 10 - 20 items are me. I can not hide that
[00:57] <@Sonar_Guy> You are in a better position than I, you could slip away. I cant.l [00:57] <@Sonar_Guy> so by you antagoinizing them who has more to loose? [00:57] <@mach> I didn't slip away because I'm in some great position. But because I know how.
[00:58] <@Sonar_Guy> so who has more to loose then? [00:58] <@Sonar_Guy> You said it yourself you slipped away. [00:59] <@Sonar_Guy> where does that leave the rest of us? [00:59] <@mach> I refuse to let the likes of brown walk all over me. Therefore, since you guys need me to do that, I will leave here so I can handle myself the way I see fit.
[01:00] <@mach> Without upsetting you. [01:00] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: that is not what we want, and I would implore you to stay. [01:00] <@Sonar_Guy> The goal is a truce where they leave us alone and we leave them alone.
[01:01] <@Sonar_Guy> not to see anybody leave. [01:01] <@Sonar_Guy> but antagonizing them does not help that cause. [01:01] <@Sonar_Guy> You know the left a message on CKs 10 yo daughters facebook?
[01:02] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: nobody is upset with you. [01:02] <@Sonar_Guy> We all understand. Trust me. [01:02] <@mach> Yes, very slimey of them to do that. [01:03] <@Sonar_Guy> agreed, but antagonizing them does not help our cause does it?
[01:03] <@mach> I appreciate the sentiment, but not a one of you can understand because you are not in my shoes. [01:03] <@Sonar_Guy> I dont know what was said between you and BB in pm but whatever it was pissed you off royaly
[01:03] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: and you are not in our shoes [01:04] <@Sonar_Guy> so you dont know what it does to us. [01:04] <@Sonar_Guy> you cant. [01:04] <@mach> So I will leave you. Problem solved.
[01:04] <@Sonar_Guy> no [01:04] <@Sonar_Guy> not accaptable [01:04] <@Sonar_Guy> *acceptable [01:05] <@Sonar_Guy> I refuse to accept that as a solution. [01:05] <@Sonar_Guy> you are part of this team.
[01:06] <@Sonar_Guy> and this is a team no matter how disfunctional this team is. [01:06] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I would have to hunt you down and drag you back here kicking and screaming. [01:07] <@mach> lol
[01:07] <@Sonar_Guy> I enjoy you being here as many others do, like tyrdr0p, bluesoul120, Kalypto, SkyNet, well hell everybody 03[01:08] * Sonar_Gal (~whocares@tor-exit-router39-readme.formlessnetworking.net) has joined #uscybercom
03[01:08] * sid sets mode: +h Sonar_Gal [01:08] <@Sonar_Guy> We just need to come to a common ground! [01:09] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: do you understand why I tried to do what I did today now? [01:09] <@Sonar_Guy> Not to hurt you, or deny you. Only to protect.
[01:10] <@Sonar_Guy> I wanted you out of the drama, I can handle it. [01:10] <@mach> That's the problem though. We've run out of common ground. The fact that I like you guys and have fun is a bonus for me. What I came here to is finished for now and I don't need to be causing a rift in a team.
[01:10] <@Sonar_Guy> just as others did. 06[01:11] * @SkyNet waves at Gal [01:11] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: If what you came her to do is finished where is the rift? [01:11] <@mach> You were trying to protect yourselves, I was trying to protect myself. We needed two different things.
[01:11] <@Sonar_Guy> s/her/here [01:11] <@Sonar_Guy> no mach I was trying to keep you out of the line of fire. [01:12] <@Sonar_Guy> just like we all do. We protect each other here. [01:12] <@Sonar_Guy> Part of the teamwork.
[01:12] <@mach> Because now there is all this backtrace goings on with bb running amok and I need to address that. Having a 'home court advantage' was cool, makes it easier. [01:12] <@Sonar_Guy> Just as J tries to protect us all
[01:13] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: so we stop the backtrace thing from existing in #jester, tell BB what he wants or thinks he wants to hear. Then carry on with what we do. [01:14] <@Sonar_Guy> Which is to have fun, enjoy each others company and ignore the BS.
[01:14] <@Sonar_Guy> and if other opportunities come along take advantage of them and and exercise our prowess as a TEAM [01:15] <@mach> I will tell BB what I need to tell BB. I will not play their games and pretend otherwise.
[01:15] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: you know as well as I this backtrace stuff will pass. [01:15] <@mach> Quickly if I handle it right. [01:15] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: that is fine, but we just need to make sure we dont antagonize and bring more trouble on all of us.
[01:16] <@Sonar_Guy> I think you set him straight today [01:16] <%Sonar_Gal> hello SkyNet [01:16] <%Sonar_Gal> hello mach [01:16] <@bluesoul120> hey gal [01:16] <@mach> Like I keep saying, I'm sorry but I will handle myself. I am more than willing to move away from here to do it.
[01:16] <%Sonar_Gal> hello bluesoul120 [01:16] <%Sonar_Gal> hello everyone [01:16] <@mach> hi gal [01:17] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: nobody want that, or should I say nobody want to have to explain that to J.
[01:17] <@mach> I expect to have to do that one or three more times and he'll be done with it. [01:18] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I only ask you stay above all the bs that annon brings and not stoop to their level by holding a grudge and kicking.
[01:19] <@mach> He is fully aware that I am the square peg in this round hole. He will understand if I tell him. [01:19] <@Kalypto> nakomis is in pub [01:19] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: that speaks volumes more than getting angry and falling into the trap of kicking, he can use that against su.
[01:19] <@bluesoul120> Kalypto, I told him to come if he didn't troll [01:19] <@Sonar_Guy> s/su/us [01:20] <@mach> I wanted the pub so I would feel the need to kick on very rare occasions. But I will when I will.
[01:20] <@Sonar_Guy> so mach, are we good? [01:21] <@Sonar_Guy> do we have an understanding? [01:22] <@mach> I have no intention of putting up with any of their nonsense. I should leave, I cannot play it the way you guys want.
[01:23] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I can not stop your from leaving but I would not like it if you did. But that is your choice, I have layed out what I feel is a good compromise, the rest is up to you! [01:23] <@mach> I have left before, it's not that big of a deal. It's just inconvenient and sad. But that's life.
[01:24] <@bluesoul120> /sigh 06[01:24] * @bluesoul120 pours another shot [01:24] <@mach> Fair warning: I will come back when I need to come back - assuming this is all still here. ;) [01:24] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: that is your decision.
00[01:25] * @SkyNet (~cyberdyne@tor-exit-router41-readme.formlessnetworking.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:25] <@Sonar_Guy> But if I have to I will come hunt you down and drag you back kicking and screaming, by your hair if necessary!
[01:25] <@bluesoul120> I'll call your ass mach [01:26] <@bluesoul120> you better not leave completely [01:26] <@Sonar_Guy> Oooo bluesoul120 has back channels communications. [01:26] <@tyrdr0p> I will have Skittles, always mach. And I'll have the uber big bag always set aside just for you. And I mean that.
[01:26] <@mach> As much as I would enjoy all that, and it sounds lovely I tell you, I cannot play it out the way you want it. I'm sorry. [01:26] <@bluesoul120> no I'm just good at putting puzzles together
[01:26] <@bluesoul120> :( [01:26] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: that is your choice [01:27] <@Sonar_Guy> I hope can reconsider. [01:27] <@Sonar_Guy> I hope you can reconsider. [01:28] <@Sonar_Guy> Many of us have made concessions on your part, I hope you can make one for us.
[01:28] <@tyrdr0p> Well.... text is now blurry to me. And there are just different blury colors and shapes on my screen, so my brain has said it's time for sleep. I will be back tomorrow at some point. I'll talk to you all then.... Take care and be safe everyone. No matter what.
[01:28] <@Sonar_Guy> If not I can understand. [01:28] <@Sonar_Guy> Night tyrdr0p 06[01:29] * @tyrdr0p waves and smiles. 00[01:29] * @tyrdr0p (~tyrdr0p@209.236.66.58) Quit
[01:29] <@mach> I don't know what else to do with it. I can't make the concessions you are asking for. [01:29] <@mach> bye try [01:29] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: is it so hard to let it go and ignore, let us take the heat?
[01:29] <@Sonar_Guy> Hell he (BB) wont remember what you said tomorrow. [01:30] <@mach> yes, there is too much at stake. I need to handle it. [01:30] <@Sonar_Guy> well you know we are here if you need us.
[01:30] <@Sonar_Guy> and I mean that sincerly. [01:32] <@mach> Well, I appreciate that. I'm sorry. [01:32] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: I am sorry as well! [01:33] <@Sonar_Guy> mach: if you need "anything" you know where to find gal and myself.
[01:33] <@mach> Thank you, same here. [01:34] <@Sonar_Guy> call me on my cell if you need anything at 229-942-1864 [01:35] <@mach> Thank you. [01:35] <@Sonar_Guy> NP [01:35] <@Sonar_Guy> you know where I am, here and on freenode.
[01:37] <@mach> Good bye for now sonars, sky, blue and kal. Don't forget me on twitter. :) [01:37] <@Sonar_Guy> I wont! 03[01:38] * @mach (~mach@109.123.119.163) has left #uscybercom
[01:38] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120 Kalypto I tried. [01:38] <@bluesoul120> i know :( [01:38] <@Sonar_Guy> I did everything I could. [01:41] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: did I make sense to you?
[01:41] <@Sonar_Guy> or did I seem unreasonable [01:42] <@bluesoul120> i thought it was reasonable [01:42] <@Sonar_Guy> Then why do I feel so bad. :\ [01:43] <@bluesoul120> I don't know
[01:43] <@Sonar_Guy> Like it is all my fault that she left [01:43] <@Sonar_Guy> Kalypto: what is your take? [01:43] <@bluesoul120> don't feel that way sonar [01:43] <@Kalypto> Its a bad situation, thee was no good result
[01:43] <@Kalypto> When tempers flare people become unreasonable [01:43] <@Sonar_Guy> Kalypto: was I reasonable? [01:44] <@Kalypto> For the most part yes... [01:44] <@Sonar_Guy> what part do you feel I was unreasonable with?
[01:45] <@Sonar_Guy> Not to argue, just asking your opinion. [01:45] <@Kalypto> Nothing directly... When you are reptetative and throw poeoples words back at em, they tend to get more hostle rather then less.
[01:45] <@Sonar_Guy> I can understand that and respect it. [01:46] <@Sonar_Guy> that is just my personality [01:46] <@Kalypto> I think she just needs time to think and approach the whole situation with logic... Once that happens things will move on much smoother.
[01:47] <@Sonar_Guy> Kalypto: I hope so. I really do respect her and her opinion. [01:47] <@Sonar_Guy> Not to mention here beliefs [01:47] <@Kalypto> From her point of view I belive she has a sense of entitlement because of her "other half"
[01:48] <@Kalypto> To an extent I can understand that... but that does not excuse refusing to ork as a team [01:49] <@Sonar_Guy> her other half? [01:49] <@Kalypto> j35 [01:49] <@Sonar_Guy> please explain
[01:49] <@Sonar_Guy> are they somehow related? [01:50] <@Kalypto> In a manner of speaking... [01:51] <@Sonar_Guy> can you expound on that for me? Cause I am confused. [01:51] <@Kalypto> One sec, let me grab a snip from one of my logs on another node
[01:52] <@Sonar_Guy> ok [01:54] <@Kalypto> [21:27] <mach> Kal. I have an op for a different reason than room control. [01:54] <@Kalypto> 01[21:28] <Kalypto> Meaning? [01:54] <@Kalypto> [21:29] <mach> Meaning... The only one that will remove my op is Jester.
[01:54] <@Kalypto> [21:29] <mach> It was not given by ck or sonar or anyone. [01:54] <@Kalypto> 01[21:30] <Kalypto> I understand that, No one is saying they are taking it... and the rules I proposed will prevent it from being refused/taken, but in turn everyone also has to agree to work with the majority.
[01:54] <@Kalypto> [21:30] <mach> Leave it to chatter... now my mascara is smeared because I facepalmed. [01:54] <@Kalypto> 01[21:30] <Kalypto> That does not mean take shit from BB unanswered!
[01:54] <@Kalypto> 01[21:31] <Kalypto> lol [01:54] <@Kalypto> [21:32] <mach> I think the rules would be great applied to anything other than ops. That's the way we were supposed to be working all along.
[01:54] <@Kalypto> [21:32] <mach> But no amount of chan op consensus is going to override the real business. [01:54] <@Kalypto> 01[21:33] <Kalypto> Meaning? [01:54] <@Kalypto> [21:34] <mach> Meaning it's not a matter for ck or sonar or tyr or anyone else. I don't mean to be rude. But it's a TMI matter. :/
[01:54] <@Kalypto> 01[21:35] <Kalypto> I understand your personal relationship with j35, and none of us are going to control you... we are asking you to agree with some rules to help keep things smooth...
[01:55] <@Kalypto> Get the point? [01:56] <@Sonar_Guy> Hmm I think so [01:56] <@Sonar_Guy> was that it or just what your willing to share? [02:00] <@bluesoul120> hmm I don't even know what to make of that
[02:00] <@Kalypto> Take it at face value.. Could mean anything really. [02:02] <@Kalypto> I think she just needs some time o chill and do her thing. Hopefully we will get things resolved quick [02:04] <@bluesoul120> who knows
[02:04] <@bluesoul120> anyway I've been quiet during all of this cuz I've been talking to nakomis [02:05] <@bluesoul120> I talked to him on tinychat and on here [02:06] <@Kalypto> Yeah, saw that... Looks like he is being civil
[02:07] <@Kalypto> You had him auth right? [02:08] <@bluesoul120> he talked about the same stuff we talked about in tinychat [02:08] <@bluesoul120> and stuff only nakomis would know [02:08] <@bluesoul120> http://uscybercom.modsteam.net:9000/nakomistalk
[02:08] <@bluesoul120> but someone has their sights on me it seems [02:08] <@bluesoul120> bobross [02:13] <@Kalypto> Whos that? [02:14] <@bluesoul120> idk [02:14] <@bluesoul120> but nakomis thinks that he's in #jester or #jesterpub
[02:15] <@Sonar_Guy> most likely FTDubbs [02:15] <@bluesoul120> that's who he was talking to in those logs [02:15] <@bluesoul120> yeah but we can't be sure [02:15] <@bluesoul120> I know I've seen that name prior to today though
[02:15] <@bluesoul120> has me fucking curious as hell [02:15] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: You were in the channel when I proved he was the relay bot. [02:15] <@bluesoul120> I don't recall [02:15] <@bluesoul120> how did you do that again?
[02:15] <@Sonar_Guy> I thought you were there? [02:16] <@bluesoul120> My memory has been shitty recently [02:16] <@Sonar_Guy> the bot attack about 2 - 3 weeks ago [02:16] <@bluesoul120> Oh yeah I remember you talking about it
[02:16] <@bluesoul120> Not sure if I was there when you outted him [02:16] <@Sonar_Guy> when we locked down the channel and Awinee was relaying what Asher was saying [02:16] <@bluesoul120> yeah then you booted him right
[02:16] <@bluesoul120> and asher didn't know what was going on [02:17] <@Sonar_Guy> as I kicked people out till asher did not know what was going on. [02:17] <@Sonar_Guy> right [02:17] <@bluesoul120> I think it's him
[02:17] <@Kalypto> Dubbs also came in dfz like 4 minutes after I made it. [02:17] <@bluesoul120> wtf [02:18] <@bluesoul120> awinee also found bot code from someone logging his channel [02:18] <@bluesoul120> on pastebin
[02:18] <@bluesoul120> My guess is ftdubbs [02:19] <@bluesoul120> hooter is r1deblue right [02:19] <@bluesoul120> ? [02:19] <@Kalypto> it was probably that damn bluesoul120 guy... Never trust a guy that has a blue soul.
[02:19] <@bluesoul120> cuz that name is mentioned in this log [02:19] <@bluesoul120> :\ [02:19] <@Kalypto> :p [02:19] <@bluesoul120> well they got 1 of the names right [02:20] <@bluesoul120> but I'm not r1deblue
[02:21] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: yeah hooter is r1deblue [02:23] <@Sonar_Guy> Ok both of you know where I am right now totally confused. [02:23] <@bluesoul120> lol [02:23] <@Kalypto> lol
[02:24] <@Sonar_Guy> Is it possible that mach is j35t3r? [02:24] <@bluesoul120> Possibly [02:24] <@bluesoul120> but I mean any of us could be [02:24] <@bluesoul120> It's not hard to change your attitude
[02:24] <@Sonar_Guy> I know it is not me. [02:24] <@Kalypto> Nope... j35 woulda magicly signed on and told us to give her OP or told us not to... [02:25] <@bluesoul120> Unless she had enough sense not to do that
[02:25] <@Sonar_Guy> but that would have blown her/his cover [02:25] <@bluesoul120> but if you notice the attitude of them both [02:25] <@bluesoul120> they're very similar [02:25] <@bluesoul120> I don't wanna say this but they both do have mood swings
[02:25] <%Sonar_Gal> OMG Guy has drank a bottle of Tequila in 4 hours!!! [02:26] <@bluesoul120> Gal I'm almost done a half gallon of vodka [02:26] <@bluesoul120> how the fuck am I typing I dont know
[02:26] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: Yeah the do very similar mood swings to be exact [02:26] <%Sonar_Gal> bluesoul120, I drank that tonight also [02:26] <@Kalypto> I downed half a bag of jerky [02:26] <@bluesoul120> mmm kal
[02:26] <@bluesoul120> lol Gal *high five* [02:26] <@Sonar_Guy> Gal and I have talked about it before that J seems like he has a female temperment [02:26] <%Sonar_Gal> Andwe didn't start drinking till almostMidnight
[02:27] <%Sonar_Gal> lol [02:27] <@bluesoul120> hehe I started after that maybe [02:27] <@bluesoul120> idk [02:27] <@bluesoul120> it was whenever this drama took a break [02:27] <@Sonar_Guy> bluesoul120: you started before us
[02:27] <@bluesoul120> before mach signed back on [02:27] <@bluesoul120> ah kk [02:27] <@bluesoul120> idk time flies when you're confuzzled [02:28] <@Sonar_Guy> Man I feel like such an ass.