me: Oh, seriously though me: We're working on something big that should be of concern to everyone' me: Operation Metal Gear me: http://piratenpad.de/ep/pad/view/metalgearannouncement/dvIikMTECs me: take a look at some point if you get a moment Patrick: OK me: It's related to efforts by the state and certain firms to basically derail all privacy in pursuit of what's beginning to amount to a pretty nightmarish policy of "information awareness" me: And I don't think many conservatives want the Obama administration possessing these capabilities Patrick: No me: Not that he'll be in office much longer Patrick: But aren't you guys sort of demolishing privacy too? me: Of whom? Patrick: Of anyone that you deem unworthy of it me: For example? Patrick: You know: hacking me: Oh, that me: Well me: Look at who we hack and why Patrick: Hacking someone sort of removes their privacy, no? Patrick: Right, you deem them unworthy of it me: Yes, and punching someone involves the use of force me: But sometimes the punch is understandable in context me: Like, when you're punched first me: Such as with HBGary me: Which built a list of our names and work by spying on our activities me: and was intending to sell it to FBI before we stole it and gave it away for free me: Aaron Barr was developing a methodology by which governments could better discover the true identity of anyone who's anonymous of the regular sort me: of course, it turns out that such methodology had already been developed, a while back, and has been in use Patrick: OK me: Anyway, take a look some time. I'm working with a group of very, very conservative types who are extraordinarily concerned by it me: I think you will be, too Patrick: Sure, when I get a chance me: Of course. Thanks for keeping it in mind. It's very important to me and I'll probably be going to prison over it. Patrick: So when is the big arrest? Patrick: You know, according to the rumors me: Hard to say me: Oh, some of the rumors claimed I was already arrested me: Unfortunately there are indications that several more have been taken in over the last couple of days Patrick: Are you going to prison over Metal Gear or something else? me: Metal Gear most likely me: I called the former NSA director at home me: left him a message Patrick: Oh, they arrested some other dudes recently? me: hassled a lot of Booz Allen Hamilton execs Patrick: Did you YouTube that?? me: We think they may have, yes me: I did it live on our radio program me: There's a clip of it Patrick: Link me: http://ge.tt/639Cmzn me: I think that has it me: Otherwise I'll upload it to mediafire, it's on my other laptop Patrick: I don't approve of your illegal activities and I think you're kind of a wacky guy, but you're also charming in an earnest and goofy way. I'd hate to see you going to prison me: I don't perform illegal activities Patrick: And yet you believe you are going to be arrested me: Our hackers do and so do the people who DDOS attacks against governments and certain corporations that collaborate with governments Patrick: You openly declare that you aid people who do me: Yes me: Those people spent 12 hours a day helping Tunisians me: A lot of my family served but I didn't for several reasons, one of them being that I don't trust the U.S. government to use its warmaking powers in a wise fashion at this point me: I consider this to be my duty me: Anyway, thanks again Patrick: Well, you're very idealistic me: Yes, and it's not just a passing phase, either Patrick: That link didn't work me: hmm me: one seconmd Patrick: Sure you're not embedding a worm on my computer with a link like that?? me: It works for me me: nah, Forbes linked to it Patrick: The Metal Gear thing did but the other one is just a blank screen me: other one? Patrick: To the clip Patrick: From the radio show me: http://www.anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=752 me: http://blogs.forbes.com/parmyolson/2011/03/17/anonymous-the-military-and-fake-virtual-armies/?partner=netscapetix me: some background me: what browser are you using? Patrick: Firefox me: well, I'll upload the file to mediafire for you later, I can't remember if the call to Mike McConnell is on that radio clip that Forbes et all linked to anyhwo me: also me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N-n83g7nmw me: here's the first announcement me: I'd been on Russia Today before but I ended that segment by noting that the FSB clearly bombed Moscow and other cities itself in 1999 to deflect attention from Yeltin's corruption and failures, so I'm surprised I was invited back me: there's a good article on that subject, incidentally, in National Review me: http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201111/6939/Anonymous-Government-contractor-has-weaponized-social-media me: background me: that should be more than enough to get you started Patrick: OK me: Thanks again for your interest in the subject. As I noted, it would mean a lot to me if people were to look into it and I'd love to see more conservatives doing so.