Re: Report: "U.S. Progressives Endorse Anarchist Violence at London Budget Protests" (with video) ...

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

Not lately, no. Been busy with some stuff.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Donald Douglas <americanpowerblog@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay, I'll take a look at it and perhaps run it with some commentary on the anarchists.

Are you blogging at Daily Kos, Barrett?

Donald

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

There certainly is.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Donald Douglas <americanpowerblog@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, but are there no black bloc?

Donald

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

They've been doing this for about 15 years now, wherever black bloc show up. It's an old and effective tactic. Sometimes they're called out when spotted (cops tend to have a certain build and can't answer questions about anarchy worth a shit when confronted), sometimes they manage to pull off vandalism when the crowd itself doesn't go for that. That doesn't mean that black bloc doesn't fuck shit up on its own; what it means is that "law enforcement" has long been engaged in false flags, as they should be from their standpoint; great way to make all protesters look like maniacs. Here's one example; search youtube for black bloc undercover and the like for tons more. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqqu44kA9OE&feature=fvwrel

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Donald Douglas <americanpowerblog@gmail.com> wrote:

How do you know this is true?

Donald

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

Also, I don't suppose you'd be willing to run this video of a blac block police infiltrator participating in an attack on a bank and then yelling that he's a cop when he's about to be arrested, would you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_1pIBLp9lY

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

Of course the circumstances are different. The state has grown well beyond the imagination of anyone who lived in that time, and with it, the initiation of force against the individual citizens.

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Donald Douglas <americanpowerblog@gmail.com> wrote:

Perhaps, Barrett, but I'd argue that circumstances are quite different today. And so would you, if you're honest about these things.

Donald

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

How about the American Revolution?

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Donald Douglas <americanpowerblog@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't support militia movements, Barrett. I don't support anarchist or revolutionary violence.

Donald

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

Why should the states hold a monopoly on violence? As long as it's directed towards the state and those who act with it, violence is quite appropriate. Don't tell me you two would mind if a militia took on the feds, seized control of the state, and then began dismantling it? The whole point of the Second Amendment is to lay the groundwork for another revolution. Having said that, the violence in this case may be prompted merely by the state reducing its spending, in which case I oppose it; force should be used to oppose the initiation of force, not to promote it. On the other hand, both of my grandfathers dropped bombs on people, killing soldiers and civilians alike, so it's hard for me to get upset about my fellow anarchists attacking armed riot cops for any reason they choose. Don't forget how many intrusive "laws" those cops enforce. No need to kill them like so many Nazis, but some bricks and molotovs are appropriate reactions to state thuggery. Perhaps you'd be happier if we anarchists were to deploy "Second Amendment remedies"? Or is that reserved for those who emphasize the evil of socialized medicine and not the socialized drug war? Please advise.

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Donald Douglas <americanpowerblog@gmail.com> wrote:

Friends, for your consideration ...

U.S. Progressives Endorse Anarchist Violence at London Budget Protests

Thanks.

Donald

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