Re: Irc
Subject: Re: Irc
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
Date: 3/24/11, 17:10
To: Emma Allan <emilieduchatelet8@gmail.com>

I just chewed him out, thanks. Fucking anti-Barrettists.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Emma Allan <emilieduchatelet8@gmail.com> wrote:
Dearest Barrett, I was just called into IRC to talk privately with this guy - I had no idea what it was about until I got in there. Anyway I copied the log so I could send it to you so you can make of it what you will and decide accordingly. I do know you're a lot more intelligent and forward thinking than many Anons and so I don't think anything I say will deter you from your current course of action and I trust your judgement to know what you're doing. 

What I'm saying is I was brought into this out of the blue and said I would approach you, so I have to - the guy doesn't know I copied the log - but you know me - I tell you everything and this is no exception. My allegiance, as always, is with you. 

Stay as safe as you can. I love you. 


17:50] <Avunit> ah there you are
[17:50] <emma> heloooo
[17:51] <emma> eating an apple
[17:51] <Avunit> People around here are massively concerned about the actions of barrett, generally i keep out of things like this because i simply dont care about it but its making people uneasy and to an extend i have to agree with them
[17:51] <emma> why? what has he done?
[17:51] <Avunit> He's going to get his shit arrested or going to be used by feds the way he's talking now
[17:51] <emma> what is he saying?
[17:52] <Avunit> Both will not only hurt him but us too
[17:52] <Avunit> He's talking in the we form toom uch
[17:52] <emma> ??
[17:52] <Avunit> like he said 'we hacked hbgary'
[17:52] <emma> the we form
[17:52] <emma> oh
[17:52] <Avunit> he had nothing to do with it, people from the hbgary team get uneasy and feds get eyes on him
[17:52] <emma> what can I do?
[17:52] <Avunit> and he's losing friends here due to that it seems :/
[17:53] <Avunit> I hoped you had a bit of influence on him
[17:53] <emma> I don't know - he's pretty determined
[17:53] <emma> I can try
[17:53] <Avunit> From some people:
[17:53] <Avunit> "I'm not gonna defend him any more; I did at first when he was doing silly things, getting us good attention, but now it's gotten to his head and he's just going insane"
[17:53] <Avunit> "I say we let him go full retard on himself, calling up massive companies, fucking with the wrong people, he'll get arrested"
[17:53] <Avunit> "if i was authorities monitoring anons, i'd prefer having BB active`
[17:54] <Avunit> "Barrett is a loony and is gonna get law on our asses"
[17:54] <Avunit> And yeah i know he is determined
[17:54] <emma> well he is not a looney
[17:54] <Avunit> which isd very good
[17:54] <Avunit> but i have to admit he is not always thinking well about his words :p
[17:54] <Avunit> furthermore i stay out of whatever someone does with the press unless ti concerns me
[17:55] <Avunit> But like i said, people get uneasy, feds get uneasy
[17:55] <emma> is he saying this to other Anons or to the Pree
[17:55] <emma> ss
[17:55] <emma> the *we* stuff
[17:55] <Avunit> From what ive heard it is to the press
[17:55] <Avunit> lemme see if i can fetch some links
[17:56] <emma> okay Ive read pretty much everything Barrett has written or spoken about and I can't say I'm unduly worried but
[17:56] <emma> maybe I'm missing something?
[17:57] <emma> He's a good guy
[17:57] <Avunit> For normal press not really probably, but anonymous focuses heavily on decentrilazation
[17:57] <Avunit> people talking to the press talk to the perss and then stay out of it for a while a lot
[17:57] <Avunit> just to dont give the 'leader' idea
[17:57] <Avunit> and generally speak in a third person form
[17:57] <emma> okay so its the spokesman thing that they have trouble with?
[17:57] <emma> Anon has no leader etc
[17:58] <Avunit> afaik: not him being an actual spokesman, as far as i can see they dnot ahve trouble with him takling to the press
[17:58] <Avunit> just that he should do it more strategic and less focused on his name
[17:58] <emma> but everybody knows who he is
[17:58] <Avunit> Id prefer to stay out of this but fine :/
[17:59] <Avunit> That doesnt mean you cant stop it
[17:59] <Avunit> Personally i explicitly ask a lot of press to keep my name out
[17:59] <Avunit> unless its needed
[17:59] <Avunit> or i need to make a statement
[17:59] <emma> no what Im saying is doesnt it make sense that since he is *out there*
[17:59] <Avunit> he is out there
[17:59] <Avunit> thats why saying
[17:59] <Avunit> 'we hacked hbgary'
[17:59] <Avunit> mmakes no sense
[17:59] <Avunit> at all
[18:00] <emma> shouldnt he make himself more visible in order to make it harder for himself to be arrested quietly
[18:00] <emma> without any fuss?
[18:00] <emma> you know?
[18:00] <emma> maybe he's covering his back
[18:00] <Avunit> We prefer people not getting arrested at all
[18:00] <emma> agreed
[18:00] <Avunit> if he makes a fuss he will A: be used
[18:00] <Avunit> or B: arrested and make an example
[18:00] <Avunit> making an example is not bad, but in jail one is notm uch use
[18:00] <emma> but since arrest is a possibility its better for it to be widely publicised
[18:01] <Avunit> Anyway thats all i wanted to ask, I prefer not fuzzing around about internal affairs
[18:01] <Avunit> well if he keeps the focus on himself hacking hbgary
[18:01] <Avunit> then its asking for an arrest :P
[18:01] <emma> No I get what you're saying
[18:01] <emma> I don't want him to be arrested either, God no
[18:01] <emma> but what can I do?
[18:01] <emma> apart from tell him I'm concerned
[18:01] <emma> which I have in the past
[18:02] <Avunit> I dont know emma, i think you have the most influence on him
[18:02] <Avunit> to atleast make him think about what will happen if he keeps it up this way
[18:02] <emma> Okay I take that on board and I'll do whatever I can.
[18:02] <Avunit> we cannot force anyone to do anything, glad we cannot because we woudlnt be able to hold the responsibility
[18:02] <Avunit> Internal affairs really isnt my thing
[18:02] <Avunit> well actually it is
[18:02] <emma> I didnt realise he was in so much trouble
[18:02] <Avunit> but only as far as team wide :P
[18:03] <Avunit> i dont go anon wide
[18:03] <emma> it freaks me out
[18:03] <Avunit> gheh emma
[18:03] <Avunit> we might seem
[18:03] <emma> He's a really nice person
[18:03] <Avunit> like a bunch of unorganized idiots
[18:03] <Avunit> and probably we are
[18:03] <Avunit> but we keep stuff monitored
[18:03] <Avunit> for the sake of everyone
[18:03] <emma> okay I see - I sense your concern and will take it to him okay
[18:03] <Avunit> so we can anticipate on everything ^.^
[18:03] <emma> I'll do my best
[18:03] <Avunit> thanks emma, and sorry for asking.
[18:04] <emma> No problem - I want to help you and to help avert any disaster
[18:04] <emma> I can't bear to think of him (or any of you) in jail
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Emma xx



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