Fw: If I disappear this is the evidence
Subject: Fw: If I disappear this is the evidence
From: "E. Komes" <es.komes@versatel.nl>
Date: 3/11/11, 09:38
To: "Barrett Brown" <barriticus@gmail.com>, "Andrew McInnes" <ajmcinnes86@yahoo.com>

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Class-Action-Law-Suit-Anonymous-vs-Aaron-Barr/200459163314164
 
 

From: Karolina O'Donoghue
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 3:00 PM
To: Ben De Vries ; es.komes@versatel.nl
Subject: RE: If I disappear this is the evidence

Hey Edith

Ben stands out on that list for two reasons: firstly, Barr thought he was a "leader" of Anonymous, secondly Barr gave out a physical home address for him as well as his real name.

So I think it's great if you can interest the media.  It's no longer breaking news of course, but now that arstechnica has done such a good overall coverage on the Barr story, perhaps there's a story for a magazine or a comments section in a newspaper?  What does it feel like to be falsely accused of cyberterrorism?  Ben hasn't felt safe enough to stay at any one address longer than a week.

I'm sure we could round up a couple of other names on the list for back-up interviews.

I see you two are FB friends already, good.  Ben's posted some other stuff which proves he's not Commander X.  My line would be that the guy is an educated Biologist, that his hacking skills are non-existent.  He does have some political opinions, but he's peaceful.  He started a FB group which encourages people to try non-compliance with the economic system for a brief period in July, and to do that by growing their own vegetables and being self-sufficient.  A European journalist would find this pretty mainstream.  His misfortune is that somebody on FB calling themselves "Julian GoodSpeak" hung out with him, attracted by a number of other people in the Group who in the excitement of the aftermath of the Assange trial had Anon type photographs and names.  This turned out to be Aaron Barr, who completely misunderstood the group of people he was interacting with.

Any journalist could even come and hang out in the same FB places and get a feel for what Barr misunderstood so badly.

Meanwhile, your super-cool lawyer will hopefully come back to me.  Speak later, honey.

Love, Karo
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:21:36 -0800
Subject: Re: If I disappear this is the evidence
From: bendevries1968@gmail.com
To: es.komes@versatel.nl
CC: karokarolina@hotmail.co.uk

Absolutely. I need all the help I can get...

Happy to discuss.

On 10 March 2011 21:43, E. Komes <es.komes@versatel.nl> wrote:
Hallo Karolina,
 
I just got your mail below and did not yet have the time to read much of it. I will do that asap.
Do you know if Ben would like some media attention. It sounds as if he would. I am in contact
with a few journalists and do send stuff around to the media very regularly.
 
Please let me know if that is ok and if Ben wants the media attention. If that is yes.
I will make shure to send his information to the press.  To whoever I can find.
I did just send it Kristinn Hrafnsson of Wikileaks.
 
They are busy sueing Pay Pale and I have been trying to motivate them for some time
to join the effort to sue Aaron Barr. So far I have not gotten any feedback from them.
Other then standard automated we received your mail and are very busy at the moment
e-mails. I have an entire map filled with those.
 
Anyway, please let me know if you and Ben do not mind media attention for the case. Ok.
Thank you in advance.
 
Kind Regards,
Edith Komes
 
es.komes@versatel.nl
 
 
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 12:26 AM
Subject: FW: If I disappear this is the evidence

Hi Edith

Here's email from Ben - the evidence for him against Barr is clear on this email.

Hugs!
Karolina

Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:41:53 -0800
Subject: Fwd: If I disappear this is the evidence
From: bendevries1968@gmail.com
To: karokarolina@hotmail.co.uk



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ben de Vries <bendevries1968@gmail.com>
Date: 9 March 2011 20:19
Subject: If I disappear this is the evidence
To:



http://www.pcworld.com/article/220140/who_is_anonymous_commander_x_not_this_guy.html

This is the evidence (attachments) needed to convict HBGary federal, it's parent company HBGary, Aaron Barr, and Greg Hoglund, at least as far as their activities relate to my person.

With the exception of Dan's article above, I have barely been able to get any press attention to my side of this story. The press wants to paint these criminals as victims for the most part.

By this time the FBI has probably figured out that these guys are idiots. This may NOT, however, have resulted in the withdrawl of warrant for my arrest (which I have not strolled into the FBI to ask...).

Considering indefinite detention without evidence of a crime went into effect today in the US, I would prefer not to spend the rest of my life awaiting a trial that will never come for things I did not do.

There is also the possibility that the injuring parties have sent paid killers after me, as they may view this as a more cost effective solution than even an out of court settlement. Given their ties to the FBI and CIA this is not an unreasonable or paranoid suspicion.

The ACLU, EFF, and Cyberlaw Foundation have all refused me legal counsel... I find this strange since it would appear this case falls under their mission statements.

There has been a call for a congressional investigation into these activities, in this case into the law firm which was slated to attempt to sell the services of HBGary federal.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49777524/Hunton-Williams-Investigation-letter

Strangely, I have not gotten a response from them either.

To sum, I am still hiding as a fugitive. I have been moving approximately weekly since this started, when I was contacted by Aaron Barr on Feb. 5th. I have been unable to acquire the most basic legal counsel to even clear myself with the FBI.

If you ever gave a rat's ass about me, the time to help is now.

I admit that this is a mass mail, and a desperate attempt to insure that even if I disappear, the reason and evidence for my disappearance does not.


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Declassified Document - HB Gary Anonymous Dossier

Postby Commander X » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:35 pm
Some retard by the name of Aaron Barr of the HBGary Federal security firm was set to sell a supposed secret dossier he created to the feds. Anonymous Operations attacked his site, defaced it - and downloaded not only the report in question but all the firms E-Mail messages as a bonus ! When I first considered publishing this report, I thought that I would have to go through and redact any info this moron managed to get right. I about died of laughter when after three separate readings I was unable to find one single fact this imbecile got correct. I certainly hope the feds were not going to spend to much of our taxpayer money on this load of crap. So without further ado, here it is --

HBGary Federal Anonymous Operations Dossier Written By Aaron Barr - http://www.peoplesliberationfront.info/ ... report.pdf

And by the way, while we would like to thank Mr. Barr for putting the PLF in his report and giving out our URL (we need all the hits we can get !) I would like to say categorically that I am not, repeat NOT some guy named Ben. Further more I am a founding member of the PLF and I know everyone involved and I have never even heard of the two people he says are connected to us.

SINCERELY -- Commander X
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Re: Declassified Document - HB Gary Anonymous Dossier

Postby Commander X » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:32 pm
This was culled from the E-Mail archive of HB Gary Federal security firm that was "liberated" by Anonymous Operations.

http://www.thetechherald.com/article.ph ... -WikiLeaks


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Re: Declassified Document - HB Gary Anonymous Dossier

Postby Commander X » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:37 pm
Here's the Tech herald article on the licking that Anonymous gave to these fucking morons.

http://www.thetechherald.com/article.ph ... -Anonymous


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From: Greg Hoglund <greg@hbgary.com>
To: Aaron Barr <adbarr@me.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 23:53:16 -0800
Subject: Re: Final - for me.
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you are such a bad ass, i hate to see the mamby pamby

On 2/5/11, Aaron Barr <adbarr@me.com> wrote:
> oh I will be bringing the print out with me and all my docs to them...
>
> On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Greg Hoglund wrote:
>
>> you should tell the FBI about B. DeVries.
>>
>> On 2/5/11, Aaron Barr <adbarr@me.com> wrote:
>>> yeah I am getting close. See the last line in my last email. If they
>>> think
>>> I have nothing then publically ok me to release it all publicly.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:43 AM, Greg Hoglund wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jesus man, these people are not your friends, they are three steps
>>>> away from being terrorists - just blow the balls off of it@
>>>>
>>>> On 2/5/11, Aaron Barr <adbarr@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> Change in the last sentence. I expect Karen u might not like it but I
>>>>> would
>>>>> like to include it as they seem to be publicly dismissing the
>>>>> correlation
>>>>> of
>>>>> the data.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 6, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Aaron Barr wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I definitely do not want to be soft on the fact I have identified to
>>>>>> real
>>>>>> name. I hope that is ok with the group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My job as a security professional and as the CEO of a security
>>>>>> services
>>>>>> company is to understand the current and future threats that face
>>>>>> individuals, organizations, and nations. I believe that social media
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> our next great vulnerability and I have attempted to get that message
>>>>>> heard. When considering my research topic for the B-Sides security
>>>>>> conference this month I selected subjects that would clearly
>>>>>> demonstrate
>>>>>> that message, and I chose three case studies - a critical
>>>>>> infrastructure
>>>>>> facility, a military installation, and the Anonymous group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to emphasize I did not choose the Anonymous group out of any
>>>>>> malice
>>>>>> of intent or aggression, nor as any part of ongoing law enforcement
>>>>>> activities. I chose the Anonymous group specifically because they
>>>>>> posed
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> significant challenge as a technically savvy, security conscious group
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> individuals that strongly desired to remain anonymous, a challenge
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> I could meet would surely prove my point that social media creates
>>>>>> significant vulnerabilities that are littler understood and difficult
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> manage. It is important to remember I had two other targets and was
>>>>>> equally as successful at gaining entry and gathering information in
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> use cases as I was with Anonymous. I also want to be clear that my
>>>>>> research was not limited to only monitoring their IRC channel
>>>>>> conversations and developing an organizational chart based on those
>>>>>> conversations - that would have taken little effort. What I did using
>>>>>> some custom developed collection and analytic tools and our developed
>>>>>> social media analysis methodology was tie those IRC nicknames to real
>>>>>> names and addresses and develop an clearly defined hierarchy within
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> group. Of the apparent 30 or so administrators and operators that
>>>>>> manage
>>>>>> the Anonymous group on a day to day basis I have identified to a real
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> over 80% of them. I have identified significantly more regular
>>>>>> members
>>>>>> but did not focus on them for the purpose of my research. I obtained
>>>>>> similar results in all three cases and do not plan on releasing any
>>>>>> specific personnel data, but focus on the methodology and high level
>>>>>> results. Again I want to emphasize the targets were not chosen with
>>>>>> malice of intent or political motivation, it was research to
>>>>>> illustrate
>>>>>> social media is a significant problem that should worry everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I can identify the real names of over 80% of the senior leadership
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> semi-clandestine group of very capable hackers and technologists that
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> very hard to protect their identifies, what does that mean for
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> one else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So to be clear I have no intentions of releasing the actual names of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> leadership of the organization at this point. I hope that the
>>>>>> Anonymous
>>>>>> group will understand my intentions and realize the importance of
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> this message our rather and decide to make this personal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If however Anonymous has no issue with me releasing the completeness
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> results associating IRC alias and position to real name I would be
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than happy to include that in my presentation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>



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