Subject: Chat with Ben de Vries
From: Ben de Vries <bendevries1968@gmail.com>
To: barriticus@gmail.com

Ben: in one piece?
me: yep
me: #USDOR
Ben: good
me: on Twitter
Ben: don't use twitter
me: we have no choice
Ben: contrary to pop belief I am not really all that comp savvy
me: but follow
me: not yet
me: but soon
Ben: nah
Ben: going to the woods
Ben: would rahter fight on my home turf
me: I see
Ben: any word on attys?
me: nothing new
Ben: I want to get that shit filed before I go
me: a couple have volunteered to defend Anons in criminal suits but I don't have anyone to sue Barr
me: I'd rec looking for someone to work on contigency
Ben: I'm still looking too
Ben: whoever takes it will get a lot of work... and a lot of money
Ben: what about criminal charges?
Ben: those usually seal the deal on civil
me: I don't know yet
me: about criminal charges
me: I'm not really in a position to pursue people through legal system at the moment
Ben: you saw cong. complaint right?
me: kind of sort of declared war on the U.S.
Ben: I am
me: yes, I was informed of it
Ben: or will be soon
me: we'll see what comes of that
Ben: If I can get the troops (attys') I need I will be happy to maintain the legal front
Ben: support me and it will position me to be able to better support others ie you
Ben: one hand washes the other
me: I'm working on it
me: right now I've got so much shit to do
Ben: you and me both
me: I haven't had time to set up my own defense
me: I mean, Anonymous has pro bono attorneys to defend in criminal suites against us
Ben: need for counterattack
Ben: and as far as I am concerned I don't need much... after a toughbook and a few months rent I am happy to set up defense fund for others
Ben: with remainder or greater bulk, however it turns out
Ben: like any monster the legal apparatus should feed itself to grow
Ben: OK Brown if you're headed to the west coast or need anything let me know I have a lot of friends... old school
Ben: out for now
me: I'mm headed east, but thanks man
Ben: or east
Ben: I have safe houses all over
Ben: let me know