me: he hangs on random me: friend of my gf me: saw him last night me: plus some others David: don't know 'em, but feel free to tell any of 'em to message me me: I've never really dealt with any of them before recently David: SA is basically the original source for anonymous. We used to do the ddos shit from the forums, back around '99 David: then the forums went legit David: 4chan was founded by a goon David: and the rest is history David: but, like... David: All Your Base began at SA. David: one of the very first, most successful internet memes David: and the admins decided to delete the thread and deny any involvement David: and ban people that brought it up David: so there's been this culture on SA for years that refuses to acknowledge it's 'little brother' 4 chan David: the result is a highly educated, technically sophisticated, and very large community - that is cycnial and uninvolved David: and I'm trying to break that groupthink, because I think they could serve as a sort of 'cavalry' David: and I've had quite a bit of success, using the various news stories (wikileaks, internetk ill switch, hbgary, etc) along with my understanding of and history of involvement in chanology to make the case for an overarching narrative David: a narrative of an information war that must reach a consensus or risk becoming a hot war. David: basically, as I see it, you've got the ex-cold war people and the military industrial complex up against transparency/free speech fetishists David: and newest generation - people in college today - are on the transparency side. David: the 'digital natives' David: and the war is playing out from there. David: globally. David: I see the digital divide as significant, as I expect the 'connected class' to replace the 'ruling class' within our lifetimes. But governments and corporations have to figure out how to tap into the 'cognitive surplus' for that to happen David: Anonymous is the cognitive surplus begging to be involved in policy-making. David: yeah... It's kind've a rambling, all-inclusive narrative. And yet, I can't turn on the TV or read a news article without seeing that narrative staring me in the face. David: and most people just don't see it.