me: but I think if you'd seen what happened with North Africa me: and one thing is me: I know how it looks Kermelos: i followed the north africa situation very closly me: It seems ludicrous that Anon might have had a strong hand in that me: it sounds like a bunch of westerners being self-indulgent and taking credit for things me: I'd look into my Daily Kos diaries from around then me: and compare them to coverage and action elsewhere on the respective dates Kermelos: this is partly the reason for my doubt- "it sounds like a bunch of westerners being self-indulgent and taking credit for things" me: I know me: look at the wikipedia entry for Anonymous and see the links regarding OpTunisia me: and see my Daily Kos diaries me: you'll get a better picture Kermelos: over the years i have tired to become a part of some american groups who try to further "democracy" and so forth in Africa and almost always they have a severe misunderstanding of african politics me: I can imagine me: but these people Kermelos: Sudan is a major case and point me: are not your traditional activists