Re: Project PM split
Subject: Re: Project PM split
From: Ayla Noland <ayla.noland@gmail.com>
Date: 2/17/11, 02:20
To: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>

I'm confused, guess will understand better after reading the below-referenced articles (?) ... without more clarification I'm inclined to stay put working with both teams on various projects, and hope that the commons will still be accessible to everyone as it is a great resource and an inspiration for transdisciplinary education and work.  Other than protecting the purely legal participants (+1)  I see no reason for the split, and Campbell said in his email that "anons" will be working with him at times anyway, so that seems not to be the point.

To reiterate, I think it IS wise to split along risk lines , as a single liability provides a pretext for investigating the whole group. It may be a bit late to be pursuing that protective strategy, considering some of the projects discussed in the hardware forum, but if not, then why not make a clean break and do something substantial to protect those highly valuable and well-positioned tech people who aren't at risk of legal consequences due to their own actions? I will ask the same of Campbell. We need to get real, cause payback from the feds can be hell too. What we've been doing lately is probably covertly supported by people at a number of levels (and we're mostly white, educated middle-class at-least-part-time-do-gooders so we get the kid gloves, but it won't stay that way forever.

Also, haven't heard back from ykw, this Friday date. Suspect all ok until round 2 serverwarz at least. Or maybe they don't care about that one, only time will reveal all....
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ayla

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Howdy-

As some of you know, due to my having taken a more central role in Anonymous over the past two months, I am splitting Project PM into two different groups. One will continue with myself, a group of PM folks, and Anonymous participants in pursuing our aid projects for Africa and the Middle East while also carrying on with things like HBGary, and those who are uncomfortable with these newer projects for any reason can work with Campbell Vertesi, Clark Robinson, and a number of other PM folks as well as whomever else joins them as our recruiting continues. You can also be a participant in both groups and I hope that many of you will, and I think Campbell and I will be better able to describe what each respective group will do when our other participants have decided individually on what they'll be interested in doing and with whom. Let me know if you have any questions. For an explanation of why we're doing what we are, please see tomorrow's Guardian op-ed, today's al-Jazeera op-ed signed Anonymous, my Skeptical Inquirer column from today, or read up on Anonymous in general. Again, though, I'm happy to provide a fuller explanation of what's going on to anyone who'd like to hear it. I believe Campbell will also be sending out some info soon that will be of use in deciding. 

Thanks again to all of you for everything. Please forward this to anyone you know who's expressed interest in what we're doing.