Subject: Re: rabbit/no search warrant |
From: "MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:" <michaelriley@bloomberg.net> |
Date: 2/7/11, 18:06 |
terrific. thanks. funny story: i asked karen about the email and she said that she didn't know anything about it. that's before i knew it was addressed to her.
it is going to be hard to deny knowledge when she read it in her inbox on saturday.
remind me never to get on your bad side. lol.
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/07 17:57:07
<greg@hbgary.com> Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM
To: Karen Burke <karen@hbgary.com>
Cc: Aaron Barr <aaron@hbgary.com>
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I think these guys are going to get arrested, it would be interesting
to leave the soft impression that Aaron is the one thatgot them, and
that without Aaron the Feds would have never been able to get out of
their own way. So, position Aaron as a hero to the public. At this
point they are going to get arrested anyway. But, Aaron has some
concerns on how that might affect commerical business (although I'm
not clear on why yet)
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:39 PM, MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM: <
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
I just have a couple of questions about the email. My editors want to get
as much authentication as we can.
what is that address of the account that it's from -- greg's account, i
guess (i assume it's on corporate email but could be them using a public
email server, i suppose). and who was the email address to?
and is it formatted in the way you guys have it? in other words, can we see
the whole thing with the to, from, su, etc?
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/07 17:34:57
Okay, but only because I like you. I gave OWen your e-mail, he'll be in
touch soon.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:32 PM, MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM: <
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
Okay. I'll put that in the story. that's great stuff. can we have that
exclusively?
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/07 17:08:01
And that e-mail is timestamped Sat, feb 5, 9.02am. Still bugging Owen
for
state.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
wrote:
Meanwhile, having gone through the e-mails that were acquired, we have
discovered the following message from Greg at HBGary Federal:
"I think these guys are going to get arrested, it would be interesting
toleave the soft impression that Aaron is the one that got them, and
thatwithout Aaron the Feds would have never been able to get out of
theirown
way.So, position Aaron as a hero to the public. But point they are
going
to
get arrested anyway. But, Aaron has some concerns on how that might
affect
commerical business although not clear on why yet"
Mail ID: mail 1297012949.M839500P25652Q2423
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com
wrote:
"no they did not seize a server form me. just acouple of my boxes and
CD/DVDs
[16:00] <owen> also my blakcberry"
Still waiting for him to tell me what state.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM: <
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
thx. i'm trying to run the story this evening (so it shows up on the
web
early tomorrow). Let me know as soon as possible what you get...
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/07 17:00:26
I've sent him a message asking, will let you know.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:51 PM, MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM: <
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
ok. if you could confirm if they took the server.
And I just need the a state for Owen. We can just use his cyber
handle,
but
i need to show where the FBI seized the stuff. Not a city. Just
state.
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/07 16:42:08
No, Owen isn't in NYC. That's one of the many things that Aaron got
wrong,
including my supposed other handles. I've heard from one fellow who
plans
to
sue.
The feds took quite a bit of equipment from Owen but not all of it.
Pretty
sure they took a server but want to confirm before I say yes or no.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM, MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:
<
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
owen is in new york state, is that right?
And did the fbi actually take the server?
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barri2009 <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/07 15:27:56
Basically, we got hbgary's e-mails along with hbgary federal's.
Prez,
penny, called me to make the distinction. I told her to come into
irc
to
talk. She and greg whatshisname, who is a douche, were in for a
couple
hours. I don't think a consensus has been reached on our end as
regards
what
to do, but anyway I don't think the e-mails have yet been
downloaded
by
anyone because file isn't being sufficiently seeded via torrent,
so
there
may still be time to come to a decision. I like penny but some
others
don't
trust her on this matter when she claims to be angry with aaron,
etc.
Meanwhile greg has made some threatening statements to the press
so,
yeah,
that wasn't particularly brilliant of him.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:" <
michaelriley@bloomberg.net>
Date: 07 Feb 2011 15:21:01
To: <barriticus@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: rabbit/no search warrant
I bet. Busy I mean.
Can you tell me what the negotiations are about? I can put a
couple
of
graphs in the story...
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barri2009 <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/07 15:02:32
Don't have it yet, will try. Been busy. Spoke to principals of
hbgary
last
night, negotiations, etc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:" <
michaelriley@bloomberg.net>
Date: 07 Feb 2011 10:17:08
To: <barriticus@gmail.com>
Subject: rabbit/no search warrant
Hey Barrett. Do you have a scanned copy of the search warrant the
feds
gave
rabbit/no during the search?
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/06 20:50:33
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/2/6/941730/-Anonymous-pwns-HBGary-Federal
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Barrett Brown <
barriticus@gmail.com>
wrote:
Also, we've acquired the document that HBGary was to sell to
the
FBI.
I'm
mentioned a couple of times, including an occasion on which I
asked
people
to attend a meeting on building dark nets.
http://hizost.com/d/zjb
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Barrett Brown <
barriticus@gmail.com
wrote:
Also, Anon has taken down HBGary's website, acquired 60,000
e-mails,
destroyed backup files, acquired Barr's Twitter (
https://twitter.com/#!/aaronbarr/status/34395565458456576),
and
more.
Barr is currently in irc.anonops.ru pleading with us.
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Barrett Brown <
barriticus@gmail.com
wrote:
Michael-
You may have seen yesterday's Financial Times piece which
claimed
that
the operational heads of Anonymous had been identified by a
certain
Aaron
Barr of the internet secuity firm HBGary Federal. Barr
claimed
that Q
is
co-founder of Anonymous, which is demonstrably false (Q set
up
the
#anonymous channel at anonops.ru, which is simply an IRC
channel)
and
that he is seeking replacements for OWen. OWen merely runs
and
owns
that
particular server, which as I told you is one of several de
facto
operational centers. Everyone involved laughed their assess
off
yesterday
and several of us wrote a silly press release which was
thereafter
posted at
Daily Kos and AnonNews. Barr, for his part, is reportedly set
to
meet
with
the FBI tomorrow in order to provide them with info gleaned
from
our
entirely non-secret IRC channels, and meanwhile his allegedly
successful
intel operation will no doubt help his firm acquire further
business.
The only problem is that Anonymous has just taken over the
website of
HBGary Federal founder Greg Hoglund and deleted all bakcups.
Suffice
to
say
that HBGary has attempted to interfere with a movement that
has
made
substantial contributions to the liberty and well-being of
North
Africans
and others and will be further dealt with over the coming
hours.
Please
see:
http://rootkit.com/. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:54 PM, barri2009 <
barriticus@gmail.com>
wrote:
G. Whitney Leigh of Gonzalez and Leigh has taken the case.
His
partner
was Ralph Nader's running mate. He'll be bringing in some
"heavy
hitters,"
as he put it. Am still scheduled to speak to Stanley Cohen
tomorrow,
after
which I'll put the two in touch. The EFF had said they'd
assist
once
we had
a confirmed name and have just let them know.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:" <
michaelriley@bloomberg.net
Date: 04 Feb 2011 15:15:35
To: <barriticus@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: do you have a couple of minutes to chat
Thx. I'll keep that off the record but will keep in touch as
the
date
gets closer.
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---- Original Message ----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
At: 2/4/2011 15:11
Yeah, will do. Also, off the record, although Anonymous as a
movement
will
no doubt continue to some small extent with Yemen, the 11th
is
the
anniversary of Iran's revolution and I'm in discussions with
both
Iranian
exiles and some of the more competent Anons about supplying
certain
tools to
Green folks ahead of that, and perhaps getting involved
further.
Our
concern
is that Anonymous is not yet equipped to handle such a
situation
as
Iran,
which obviously involves a lot of nuance and interference
from
all
the
great
powers and then some. Eritrea, meanwhile, is a police state
with
a
large
expat presence in the city in which I'm currently living and
I've
managed to
get in touch with the exile opposition, which is
enthusiastic
about
any
attempt. That, too, would be a secret op run out of Project
PM
until
such
time as our cover is blown, at which point Anonymous will be
thrown
at
them.
I expect those operations to begin in two weeks.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:06 PM, MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/
NEWSROOM:
<
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
Can u let me know what he says?
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---- Original Message ----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
At: 2/4/2011 15:03
Just heard back from Doron; Jay Mafield will be the
attorney.
Am
supposed
to
talk to Doron in a bit.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:01 PM, MICHAEL RILEY, BLOOMBERG/
NEWSROOM:
<
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
Working on the attorneys. If it doesn't go today it will
go
on
monday.
But
let me know if other reporters call and I'll try and
push
it.
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---- Original Message ----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
At: 2/4/2011 13:59
Did you manage to get a hold of everyone? Haven't had
any
other
interview
requests since we spoke so you're good.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:00 PM, MICHAEL RILEY,
BLOOMBERG/
NEWSROOM:
<
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
will do. thanks you.
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/03 16:57:02
Here, just call him - 917-544-5471. His other number,
possibly
cell, is
845-482-3119. Try first one first, I don't know if he
wants me
giving
out
second one but I'm sure he won't mind since I'm going
to
get
him
paid
via
a
legal defense fund (off the record for now).
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:54 PM, MICHAEL RILEY,
BLOOMBERG/
NEWSROOM: <
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
Hey, barrett. Will you do me a favor and check the
earthlink
address
for
Stanley. I tried it and it came back 'user unknown.'
Also trying heidi.
thx
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/03 13:50:29
No problem, will do.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:50 PM, MICHAEL RILEY,
BLOOMBERG/
NEWSROOM:
<
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
Thanks, I appreciate it. If you give this to
anyone
else,
could you
just
give me a heads up. That will give me an idea that
I
should
move as
quickly
as possible. My preference is to spend a little
more
time
and
talk
to
the
lawyers about this whole thing.
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/03 13:47:54
You're the first today. Anyway I'll make sure you
have
a
head
start.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM, MICHAEL RILEY,
BLOOMBERG/
NEWSROOM:
<
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
thanks, barrett. that's all a big help.
Can you tell me whether you've talked to other
reporters
about
this.
I
have
to run out to an interview and I'm just trying
to
figure
out
if I
have
a
little time to talk Stanley or Heidi.
Again, much appreciated.
Cheers,
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Michael Riley
Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
To: MICHAEL RILEY (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)
At: 2/03 13:33:26
Michael-
Good to meet you. Here's the info I have. Let me
know if
I
forgot
anything.
"Heidi Boghosian" <director@nlg.org>, (NAtional
Lawyers
Guild
director
with
whom I'm working to choose lawyers)
Stanley Cohen stanleycohen@earthlink.net - guy
who
guys
on
Fox
and
defends
Hamas, lol
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jan/27/anonymous-internet
-
my op-ed from other day, with links to info on
OpTunisia,
etc.
As I mentioned, there are three people I'm
assisting
in
this.
"Trivette" is a channel operator of anonops.ru,
where a
large
faction
of
the
Anonymous movement does its work. He's a
California
male
whose
documents
you
have (partially, it seems). Here is the entirety
of
what
I
have;
if
other
info is needed from him, let me know and I'll
get
it
ASAP.
The
relevant
grand jury starts on Feb 10.
Subpoena
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4348/sub2sw.jpg
Attachment to federal grand jury subpoena:
http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/1708/subz.jpg
"Owen" controls the anonops.ru server. He was
raided by
the
FBI
but
has
not
received any subpoena. He doesn't seem
interested
in
any
legal
advice
until
such point as he is required to get off his ass
by
the
Feds.
"Rabbit"/"No" is a 19-year-old Nevada female.
Her
family
home was
raided
and
she was questioned at that point. She actually
called
right
after
I
got
off
with you and told me the following:
Equipment seized:
two broken laptops
two jump drives
father's laptop
mac book
samsung phone
iphone
router
The search warrant was shown to her only after
she
had
requested
to
see
it
several times and was questioned about
MasterCard
etc
(it's
looking
like
the
MIAA thing may just be peripheral or even
unrelated,
as
I'm
just
now
able
to
determine). It's headlined United States
District
Court
of
Nevada.
According
to one section, it was supposed to be carried
out
by
Feb
9
-
one
day
before
the California grand jury goes down. She'll be
able
to
scan
it
and
get
it
to
you or whoever ends up assisting by Thursday but
it's in
reference
to
her
having allegedly accessed a secure computer to
obtain
information,
18
U.S.
c
1030a2c.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Barrett Brown <
barriticus@gmail.com
wrote:
Michael-
Sure, give me a call at 512-560-2302 whenever.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:52 AM, MICHAEL
RILEY,
BLOOMBERG/
NEWSROOM:
<
michaelriley@bloomberg.net> wrote:
Hey, Barrett.
I'm working on a story about the DoJ's
efforts
to
prosecute
individuals
associated with Anonymous and the DDoS
attacks
against
PayPal
and
others.
The NYT mentioned that you're helping to
organize
legal
assistance
for
some of those arrested and released recently.
Do
you
have
a
couple
of
minutes to talk. I'm interested in your sense
of
what
DoJ's
strategy
is
here. Is this about making some examples from
a
few
people
associated
with
Anonymous. Are they trying to go after
leaders
in
the
hopes of
beheading
the
group (which seems unlikely, give the
nature).
And I'm also just interested in what exactly
people
are
being
charged
with. From a legal perspective, this is a
tricky
move
on
their
part.
Cheers,
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Washington bureau/Bloomberg News
(202) 624 1982
(720) 635 8553 (cell)
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