me: http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201106/6785/Report-HBGary-used-as-an-object-lesson-by-Anonymous me: be sure to see Bloomberg piece when it appears me: we have destroyed HBGary me: we'd found an e-mail among those seized me: from exec Gregg me: saying they should position Aaron Barr as a "hero to the public" for helping to catch Anon me: Bloomberg saw text of it and asked a certain Karen Burke if she knew anything about it me: she said no me: the e-mail was to Karen Burke and she responded me: and we've provided the whole thread to Bloomberg me: reporter actually said, "wow." BushwickBK.com: oh lemme see BushwickBK.com: When it comes to the ten “most senior people”, they are actually network administrators. BushwickBK.com: lawl me: dude, a lot of people will be personally going down me: shareholder lawsuits, Aaron Barr to be sued me: etc BushwickBK.com: I don't know who he is yet, reading BushwickBK.com: oh shit BushwickBK.com: they actually did something substantial me: yep BushwickBK.com: this is more than defacement BushwickBK.com: fuck yes me: no shit me: dude me: we destroyed them me: and I caught some people in lies BushwickBK.com: I have to say, that's been the main point of boredom with anon me: which the press now knows BushwickBK.com: but this is serious shit me: dude, we took down Egyptian gov't websites just the other day me: that's why NYT quoted me me: and Gregg Housh me: Anon has done substantial shit before me: during Chanology, for instance BushwickBK.com: yes, they have taken down sites BushwickBK.com: and that's fun BushwickBK.com: but like I said before, after a whle it gets boring me: no, more than that BushwickBK.com: for spectators me: you need to read up, man BushwickBK.com: I guess I do me: read the Wikipedia page BushwickBK.com: because this is my impression BushwickBK.com: during the wikileaks attacks, it was nothing more than taking down corporate biz cards BushwickBK.com: but since tunisia I guess it's gotten more robust me: it was more than that during wikileaks me: we worked to ensure more coverage BushwickBK.com: ok, wait, questions me: and ran operations to promote cables BushwickBK.com: I read the FT piece and the one you linked me: k BushwickBK.com: this guy is a security consultant me: not anymore BushwickBK.com: he claims he did this to expose flaws for any org BushwickBK.com: but you're sure he did it at someone's behest? BushwickBK.com: I guess that's what I'm confused about me: yes me: I spoke to him me: last night me: recorded it me: he and others lied me: if here were doing so to help us me: he'd have provided us the info first me: instead of going to FT with what he thought was info about our leadership BushwickBK.com: yes, obviously me: and meeting with the feds me: when I asked him about that me: he paused me: asked, "Well, who would I have given it to?" BushwickBK.com: he's been fired? me: he was in our IRC for months me: and thought he knew who are leaders were me: not yet me: but Penny is mad at him BushwickBK.com: he's a partner, so they mgiht force him out? me: Penny is prez of HBGary, which owns 15 percent of HBGary Federal me: oh man me: I can't ppredict the exact nature BushwickBK.com: or sue him even BushwickBK.com: fun BushwickBK.com: ok so BushwickBK.com: the bloomberg piece I hope will make what's happened clearer? BushwickBK.com: cuz I shouldn't hve ha to ask you those questions me: yes me: a lot clearer BushwickBK.com: the coverage is kind of gappy BushwickBK.com: cool me: understandable me: happened fast me: FT article appeared Saturday me: Anon struck Sunday BushwickBK.com: hot BushwickBK.com: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/02/secret-tools-force-net/ BushwickBK.com: too bad the govt has it and selecti vely uses it BushwickBK.com: possible to have these kinds of tools in a distributed netwrok, I'm sure BushwickBK.com: blast open the internet wherever some dictator fuck shuts it down BushwickBK.com: when are you guys punishing that lamo rat me: Aaron? me: we're hoping to get back moving on other things me: he'd over and done me: after Bloomberg piece comes out BushwickBK.com: Lamo me: already discussing Iran me: speaking of which me: put out the word that those who'd like to help Iran can do so soon me: if they talk to us me: quietly BushwickBK.com: I only have public ways for putting word out me: k me: don't then me: yet me: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41465455/ns/technology_and_science-security/ BushwickBK.com: nice, I';ll runt his ont he page tonight