Subject: Chat with Patrick Frey
From: Patrick Frey <patterico@gmail.com>
To: barriticus@gmail.com

me: dude
me: Just because you in Washington and you who are so out of touch with life in the media, just because you don't believe in anything doesn't mean nobody else does. We do. You know why you're confused by this show? It's because I believe in something. You don't.
Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.
I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.
You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.
They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them — they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.


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me: I'm not "partisan"
me: I'm an anarchist
me: I've attacked Obama on Fox News
me: talk to any of the people more conservative than you who have interacted with me
me: I don't engage in intellectual dishonesty
Patrick: Read the whole, entire transcript. The whole thing. Not the "relevant parts" that people have carved out. The whole thing.
me: I did
me: because you asked me to
Patrick: Starting from the first words?
me: tell me who he is referring to
me: "OK. America, here is why I think this has really been a problem for most Americans — I think this has been a problem, because, do you see Bill Clinton as a communist?

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me: if those are the first words, I've read them
me: so who does "them" refer to?
Patrick: It's tough to tell at times because we don't have the video, and he is clearly making gestures that we are missing. But in general he is talking about leftist violent revolutionaries
me: and who is the "they" who might shoot first?
me: so
Patrick: He is not telling anyone to shoot them
Patrick: He is saying they will leave the politicians and media no other choice
me: let's examine the words themselves, Pat
Patrick: I have
me: Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.
I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.
You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594343,00.html#ixzz1BvpzV1Nn

me: They believe in communism
Patrick: I read the words and I have written many posts about this. Three, I think
Patrick: Have you read them?
me: They believe and have called for revolution
me: You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.
me: I've read one of them
me: Suffice to say I was not convinced insomuch as that he introduces the subject and then says that "you" will have to shoot that subject in the head
me: we have video of that portion
Patrick: Who do you think "you" is?
Patrick: I have to go eat, and if you can't answer that, you haven't done your reading
me: it is either his viewers, or the communist revolutionaries. If the latter, he is warning them that patriotic Americans might shoot them first
me: very well
Patrick: Lord
me: Speaking
Patrick: "You" is neither
Patrick: Fail.
me: Who is it, then?
Patrick: It is the lefty politicians and the lefty news media
me: I see
me: How do you figure?
Patrick: Look: go read my posts. They make it very clear
me: feel free to eat and get back to me
Patrick: Gotta go
me: I'll do that
me: will get back to you
Patrick: Seriously, if you think "you" = viewers or revolutions you haven't begun to understand what he is saying. At all.
me: I hope they are good enough to transcend grammar and usage
Patrick: revolutionaries, that is
me: REvolutionaries seems to include those in Washington
me: since he says that
me: specificallyt
me: saying over and over again "you haven't done your reading" isn't an argument. I mean, it is.
me: anyway, enjoy your dinner