me: hey man me: don't want to bother you me: but I was talking to more Tunisians on #optunisia me: and then these two guys banned me for promoting Optunisia in #optunisia me: as they want everyone to concentrate on Algeria me: which is fine me: but I need access to that channel to work me: and now it's this personal power fetish bullshit Anonymous: owen is the net admin you need to talk to me: got his e-mail? Anonymous: no Anonymous: but your dealing with the shitty end of anon me: I don't know how to contact him Anonymous: with the people in power over there me: I know, but others in there Anonymous: on irc over there /msg owen something Anonymous: to send him a message me: know how his name is spelled? Anonymous: owen me: 0wen or owen or what? me: okay me: guess he's not on right now me: I e-mailed Mr. A and others Anonymous: he is Anonymous: owen as in own Anonymous: err owen me: thing is, I always get flack from somebody for being in medi Anonymous: on irc /msg is the private message command me: first it was this evangelical christian Anonymous: so type /msg owen MYMESSAGE Anonymous: whatever your message happens to be Anonymous: and if he is alive he will respond me: keeps saying no such nick/channel me: guess I have to wait till he's on? Anonymous: he is on Anonymous: i see him on me: hmmm me: you think you can message him for me? me: it's really important, there are Tunsiians there right now me: I was talking to them me: was going to add them to network Anonymous: in #optunisia me: but don't have their e-mails yet Anonymous: ? me: yeah me: I lost their name snow me: I turned off mIRC after I was banned the second time me: I've got contacts in Paris me: we built a huge network of North Africans me: and we can really help to establish these insittutions and give them internet tools Anonymous: talking to him now me: thanks man Anonymous: no prob, give me a sec me: I think they'e going to lie about me again, but the record of conversation is there Anonymous: you should be able to rejoin me: one guy said OpTunisia was over and then he and the other denied saying it me: cool Anonymous: just dont yell or be a bitch about things Anonymous: roll with it me: I try me: but they banned others me: I and someone else was objecting me: wasn't sure how to handle it because I'm not used to this me: thanks, though me: says I'm still banned Anonymous: owen is catching up with the chat Anonymous: to figure ito ut me: okay Anonymous: me and him get along ok me: no rush Anonymous: we are go-betweens Anonymous: because we run opposing networks me: gotcha, I don';t mean to put you on the spot Anonymous: his other opers hate my network Anonymous: mine, hate his Anonymous: so we work in the background me: or make you cash in favors Anonymous: to keep things civil. me: it's jsut that we've made so much progress me: in fact, give me acall or let me call you when you have a moment me: there's a lot that's hjappened in our favor and I want to go over with you Anonymous: we have kids who have to wake up at 6 in the morning me: gotcha Anonymous: so we have to go to sleep like an hour ago me: later, then Anonymous: we can talk tomorrow though Anonymous: im at home all day me: word me: will call you tomorrow afternoon if that's okay Anonymous: and also, thanks again for Tim, he is working out perfect Anonymous: yeah thats fine me: yeah, Tim is great me: also, man me: another guy just said they ran off someone who mentioned the rally me: just now me: banned him me: I know this might seem like a petty thing me: but please mention that to Owen me: good people are being banned Anonymous: dont put my name in channels Anonymous: we've had this talk already heh Anonymous: it doesnt do me any good me: sorry me: I forgot me: keep forgetting the particularities of your situation me: not something I'm used to Anonymous: i was told Anonymous: "make #optunisia2 and just invite anyone in there who wants to get work done" me: I see me: I can't invite anyone me: can't even get on me: anyway, I guess I'll just work with Project PM them me: also, see if you can get Owen to make sure these guys don't ban Tunisians me: they banned one me: for talking about Tunisia me: thanks for trying anyway me: god damnit, it's depressing to see this shit happen in a group I'm trying to make everyone like me: well, goodnight, take it easy Anonymous: owen is cleaning house Anonymous: me and trivette had it out Anonymous: with master chiming in now and then me: master is an evangelical me: he hates me Anonymous: yeah me: started saying I'm megalomanicac me: and then said I'm a security risk when that didn't work me: the ops at that time took my side me: which is why I'm surprised me: these two guys, seriously, it's not just between me and them me: they are seriously banning people for no reason and harming ops due to own power issues Anonymous: you also dont blend well with the anons me: I know, but it didn't seem to matter before Anonymous: it was rubbing on some of them me: I've been on there 12 hours a day for several days, Gregg Anonymous: also me: everyone else liked me Anonymous: they dont stay on one task me: and was working with me Anonymous: they switch to other shit me: I know Anonymous: and expect everyone to me: I didn't say they shouldn't Anonymous: its tough for them to get me: I know Anonymous: come back tomorrow me: will do Anonymous: your unbanned Anonymous: but i would let the dust settle Anonymous: owen removed trivette's ops to me: is there a way you can keep me unbanned when I come back? Anonymous: do not speak of that though Anonymous: no need to start shit me: I won't me: it's not my priority, I'm trying to make OpTunisia work me: I've got enough enemies me: I've made a lot over this already me: won[t be able to write for some of the pubs I used to write for me: so I appreciate your support Anonymous: of course Anonymous: you know i care me: and I wouldn't have bothered you if it were not important me: it's just that I've been able to get a lot done in that channel Anonymous: yeah Anonymous: owen is trying to work it out me: with &a? Anonymous: eh Anonymous: he is just clearing up the access list me: what's that mean? Anonymous: there were 68 people with ops in that channel on the bot me: ah Anonymous: so when they joined it opped them me: gotcha Anonymous: he is clearing most out me: very good Anonymous: ok, try and play nice with everyone tomorrow Anonymous: if shit hits the fan again tell me me: will do, thanks Anonymous: and if owen says jump, you say how high Anonymous: everyone else dont take shit from Anonymous: but be nice me: yep me: done and done me: talk to you tomorrow Anonymous: cool stuff Anonymous: im off to bed Anonymous: before i go Anonymous: log: Anonymous: 05:32 <%no> hi 05:32 <%no> how goes? 05:32 < mib_c7c8a8> tunisian 05:32 <%no> hi there 05:32 < mib_c7c8a8> askin for some news 05:32 <%no> congrats on ousting whats his face 05:32 <%no> good job 05:32 < mib_c7c8a8> thx 05:33 < mib_c7c8a8> u helped us 05:33 < mib_c7c8a8> really 05:33 <%no> you are welcome 05:33 < mib_c7c8a8> thx 05:33 < mib_c7c8a8> i'm not really beliving that i'm on this chat now... 05:34 < c0s> glad your coming around 05:34 < mib_c7c8a8> and think it can be cut... 05:34 <%no> we are glad you made it 05:34 < mib_c7c8a8> censorship is comming back 05:34 < mib_c7c8a8> those days 05:34 <%no> is it? 05:34 < mib_c7c8a8> yes 05:35 < c0s> whats getting censored? 05:35 < mib_c7c8a8> lot of stuff 05:35 < c0s> oh boy. 05:35 <%no> so, how can we help? 05:35 < mib_c7c8a8> incrising 05:35 < mib_c7c8a8> don't know 05:35 < mib_c7c8a8> :) me: I'll talk to him me: must be new me: been trying to get all of them aware of the written and video guides Anonymous: send him a private message me: will do Anonymous: he says he is looking for news Anonymous: ok, now im really off to bed me: I just type /msg mib_c7c8a8 MESSAGE me: right? Anonymous: yeah me: okay, night night lol me: think I can get back on /optunisia tonight to ping him, he doesn't seem to know how to use message across console me: I won't say anything in the actual chat me: will let them cool down Anonymous: i really wouldnt me: ok