“7:00 EST (NYC) time on IRC.”

I have not yet set up the IRC – I am also very busy these two days. So you have a weekly meeting on (lets see, when you send this mail – I believe this is already today here) Wednesdays 7:00 (am? – wait, that would be too early for the west coast) I say Wed 7 pm EST – yes?

It would be indeed great if you could send me the transcript and I schedule to participate next week. The IRC I think is likely a problem, but I will try.


“I am also having my associate Clark Robinson get in touch with you and share with you some Google Documents for your review.”

I got an email a few days ago from him with some blog post sniplets of yours etc. Yes, google documents at times do not open – Mao wants the stuff routed through google.hk for some reason. ;-)


“At any rate, I wanted to see if you would be interested in working with me on some articles; I can also share with you our spreadsheet detailing the interests and background of our various scientists and journalists if you'd like to take a look before deciding.”

Yes, if you could give me some more information, that would be great. I somehow got the message that you are collating/matching up journalists with scientists and thus wanted to send some questionnaire about expertise, so that especially the journalists can get an idea of whom to contact in case they have questions (i.e. improving science journalism, which seems to be at least a side project of the whole project PM if I understood right).

Looking forward to hearing from you

Sascha


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Dr. Sascha Vongehr  (风洒沙)
Department of Philosophy and
National Key Laboratory of Solid-State Microstructures
Dept of Materials Science and Engineering
Nanjing University, Kexue Jishu Guan 324, Hankou Lu 22,
Nanjing, Gulou District, Jiangsu Province 210093, P.R. China
http://www.science20.com/alpha_meme
Alternate mail: vongehr8@yahoo.com
http://cn.LinkedIn.com/in/SaschaVongehr

----- Original Message -----
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 11:21 am
Subject: Re: Project PM
To: sascha vongehr <vongehr@usc.edu>

Hi, Sascha-

I don't believe I mentioned that we're having our weekly meeting 
tomorrow at
7:00 EST (NYC) time on IRC. If you don't think you can log in from 
China(although I think you can) or otherwise won't make it, let me 
know and I'll
send you a transcript if it turns out to be something that would be 
usefulto you at this point. I am also having my associate Clark 
Robinson get in
touch with you and share with you some Google Documents for your 
review. If
you have any trouble accessing them, let him know and he'll make 
sure you
get text copies via e-mail.

Also, I've decided that I'm going to participate myself in the 
project here
and there in order to set an example and also to raise some money 
for our
Africa fund, which will be used for applying improved information 
dynamicsin the context of Third World health development - we're 
working with Dr.
Kenneth Lipp of Cambridge who has recently begun work on First 
Praxis, his
own program which I'll tell you more about if that sort of thing 
interestsyou (I imagine your background is such that you'll be more 
interested in
other aspects of what we'll be doing, but obviously I don't know 
the extent
of your interests and expertise). We also have our own Africa 
DevelopmentProgram on which we'll be concentrating more very soon 
and which for now
will probably hinge on our partnership with Lipp. At any rate, I 
wanted to
see if you would be  interested in working with me on some 
articles; I can
also share with you our spreadsheet detailing the interests and 
backgroundof our various scientists and journalists if you'd like 
to take a look
before deciding.

Again, thanks for your interest and your willingness to 
participate. I very
much hope to have you involved with myself and the dozen or so 
other people
who are currently running all of this, so to the extent that you 
can and
will assist us in making decisions and launching new programs, we 
would all
be honored to have you do so.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:23 PM, sascha vongehr <vongehr@usc.edu> 
wrote:

Dear Barrett,

thank you for your response.

in this case you fell through the cracks due to all the traveling

understand - that can happen

As for the crack about my views on valid skepticism

just a crack from somebody who is well aware of what you write 

and largely

is on the same side on most issues - your stuff is visible out 

there and I

like to read up on people before I contact them.

I will look over the other email I just received and see how I can
participate. Sadly there are many issues with not being able to 

use many

resources effectively when in China (censure, proxy server 

hassle), so this

may hamper the communication desirable in something like Project 

PM. Instead

of getting better, currently it is getting worse again with the 

nobel peace

price etc.

Anyways - we are on one side when it comes to wanting to actually do
something about the bad state of science journalism and peer 

review/publish> and perish culture that undermines science, rather 
then just lamenting it.

So I am looking forward to hopefully fruitful cooperation.

Thanks again

Sascha

-- 
Regards,

Barrett Brown
512-560-2302