Re: The League
Subject: Re: The League
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
Date: 12/18/10, 18:52
To: Clark Robinson <robinsonchicago@gmail.com>
CC: Scott Mintz <scott.w.mintz@gmail.com>

Oh, I don't see any problem in finding publishers at all. Let's discuss on Wednesday or sooner. You are right about T/S's tech not fulfilling its alleged capabilities in terms of the comments; it always astounded me how that could be the case.

Johnson is now claiming that I outed a commenter at The League, which is not true. In fact, he himself is a notorious outer of commenters and even once asked me via e-mail to help him identify a commenter at my blog at True/Slant - not his blog, but mine. I warned him yesterday to reign in his people and refrain from libeling me but he has continued anyway, blocking my e-mails and otherwise ensuring that even he will not have to deal with any defense that might, I guess, break his mind. As such, I'm now forwarding evidence of Johnson's own espionage against people who have not even commented on his site to the anti-Johnson faction in an effort to damage his credibility further and also as a means of stirring the pot a little bit; I've actually managed to get in front of the story pretty damned well, if I do say so myself. I even dropped in on that one blog where they criticize my hair and whatnot, made fun of them, and earned their respect. Not hugely useful, but it's always nice to have options in a fight like this.

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Clark Robinson <robinsonchicago@gmail.com> wrote:
Sometime recently, but before events below, I was reading one of your special page posts at LGF, and at the time I was reading, it had a little less than 400 page views and and 180-some comments* and I was thinking: man, this is some sort of strange culture here.  I mean, who, really, would be into reading all those comments other than the cluster of LGF commenters themselves.  It appears most blogs develop an inbred commenting community--the only comments I have ever posted anywhere were a couple of bite-backs at T/S reader Savio, the annoying church organist from Ohio who illogically believed your secularist to-do list included taking away his right to pray.  So, I think you got tripped by the League's budding version of these little members-only gangbangs,  If we have comments features in any Project PM publications, let's devote some thought to ways to marginalize these remora-type commenters. True/Slant had a pretty good idea in this regard, the bloggers could "call-out" interesting or reply-worthy comments, and the reader could select to read only those.  Problem with T/S's comments system, the technology supporting did not work for shit.    
*but not by 180 different people, of course.

Perhaps the irritable Sascha would be just the right guy to get the Scientists and Journalists going, actually writing articles.

One thing that bothers me a little about the Sci/Journ project is that we have suggested that we can help find [paying?] publishers for the articles, but I myself can not identify our means to accomplish that. 





On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I accidentally revealed info about an Alabama government employee named "Scott" - namely, that he was harassing me and calling for the assassination of Assange from a government computer - and someone objected so I offered to resign from the League and Erik accepted (pretty readily, too). http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2010/12/17/all-apologies/

In terms of PR that might have an effect on myself and us, things look surprisingly good. A lot of people seem to disapprove of Erik's handling of this; one of his co-bloggers just wrote what amounts to a defense of me and a criticism of Erik for having accepted my resignation over something that was not only unintentional, but didn't reveal the person's identity. http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2010/12/17/all-apologies/

As I note in a comment at the first link, Erik didn't even bother to completely remove the exact information I'd released, which is kind of odd if that information is supposedly so important. I'll forward you the correspondence I had last night and this morning with Erik, who seems kind of defensive.

Meanwhile, I've entirely broken off with Charles Johnson, to put it mildly. You know some of the background already, Clark. Scott, Kilgore Trout was claiming that I engage in illegal activities and that I am potentially funded by the Russian mafia. Seriously. Johnson did not object at all to this despite the fact that I got him the paying gig at True/Slant and more importantly despite the fact that this was extraordinarily unethical. Yesterday he linked to the Gawker release of Assange's old love letters. He also banned someone for pointing out that he linked to Reason the other day while deleting any user diaries that link to Reason. That person then wrote to Johnson and apologized, after which Johnson noted that "he has been reinstated after apologizing for being such a jerk." I saw some other things which really disturbed me as well. Suffice to say that I was entirely wrong in pointing to Johnson as some paragon of modern commentary. I posted a comment to that effect and it was deleted. I'm not sure if/how to proceed. I will have to note at some point that I no longer consider him to be the swell blogger that have claimed him to be; thank God the book didn't come out yet. I was fine with Johnson et al opposing Wikileaks and even being kind of intellectually dishonest about it in our arguments, as of course I could always be wrong myself. But I was truly astonished - and I am rarely astonished - at the way things go at that blog after finally having had occasion to really spend time there.

Anyway, this will allow me to spend my time on my actual paying/important projects, although I'm satisfied with the defense and explanation I've provided regarding Wikileaks over the past week. I'm not entirely satisfied with having outed that fellow as a government employee, even though I didn't give out any actual identifying info when I could have, but thinking about it today and reading through the reactions, I'm not particularly down on having done so, either, for the reasons I gave yesterday.

In other news, we've brought on what would appear to be our best scientist thus far, the apparently excitable Sascha something-or-other at some Chinese university that a Chinese friend tells me is among the best. He really, really wanted in, so perhaps he will be useful to our regular weekly crew.

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Regards,

Barrett Brown
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Regards,

Barrett Brown
512-560-2302