Re: Project PM
Subject: Re: Project PM
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
Date: 11/3/10, 12:40
To: Emma Allan <emilieduchatelet8@gmail.com>

Plus it has all kinds of weird British shit on it, like claims that it will help you sleep. It's fucking malt. I've always known that if I ever go to England I will see all kinds of bizarre uncanny valley stuff and this confirms it.

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Emma Allan <emilieduchatelet8@gmail.com> wrote:
You mean horlicks.

On 11/3/10, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
> Horlet's.
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Emma Allan
> <emilieduchatelet8@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I demand to know the identity of the Malt stuff. Thank you.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Nevermind, I'm happy again. I am fucking with the editor of a fascist
>>> Catholic magazine who has decided to pick a fight.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2010/11/perhaps-we-should-hire-this-incompetent-fellow-who-hates-us/comment-page-1/#comment-78422
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Emma Allan
>>> <emilieduchatelet8@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know what the malt stuff is but you can def fuck me from behind.
>>>> Maybe it's something the Queen has. Ooh ooh, I just thought is it a malt
>>>> drink? Is it called Horlicks? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horlicks
>>>>
>>>> If it is that then I LOVE IT. (not as much as you, but pretty close)
>>>> Also
>>>> this totally turned me on. (the last sentence regarding the fucking) We
>>>> haven't talked of that for ooooh, at least a few days, and it kinda took
>>>> me
>>>> by surprise, so to speak. Fuck fuck fucking. Fuck Emma into next week.
>>>> oh
>>>> God Im so horny. Stop it.
>>>>
>>>> DON'T STOP
>>>>
>>>> love you x
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Barrett Brown
>>>> <barriticus@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You're adorable. Also, my mom just brought over a blender and some malt
>>>>> stuff that they apparently use in England, coincidentally enough, so I
>>>>> can
>>>>> make you, like, English malts. And then fuck you from behind.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Emma Allan <emilieduchatelet8@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you, I love those IRC chats - its where I first realised I
>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>> to get to know you much better. Also where I realised I had to get my
>>>>>> emotions in check because all I did was insult you and I didn't mean
>>>>>> to. It
>>>>>> was like I developed Tourettes as soon as I went on the channel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would write something sarcastic or rude to you and think *OMG Emma
>>>>>> wtf are you doing, he's really nice and you're being such a wanker
>>>>>> toward
>>>>>> him.* Then I'd do it again and think *fucking hell get offline before
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> totally hates you* I was a menace to myself. Luckily Im much calmer
>>>>>> now. :)
>>>>>> (although highly sexually aroused and will have to stop myself writing
>>>>>> *Oh
>>>>>> Barrett I LOVE YOU GIVE ME A BABY*) (JOKE!) I do not want a baby. Oh
>>>>>> GOD why
>>>>>> am I talking about babies. Kill me now. I am stupid.
>>>>>> ps love you x
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Barrett Brown
>>>>>> <barriticus@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've got an IRC meeting tomorrow as usual on Wednesdays, although
>>>>>>> we'll be joined by this woman who's involved in helping NGOs better
>>>>>>> coordinate their work; below is a discussion that Scott Mintz had
>>>>>>> with her
>>>>>>> over the last couple of days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Scott Mintz <scott.w.mintz@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:34 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Project PM
>>>>>>> To: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>, Clark Robinson <
>>>>>>> robinsonchicago@gmail.com>, dynamicuno@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since I doubt I'll be unable to make tomorrow's meeting, I thought it
>>>>>>> wise to pass along the below email exchange between myself and the
>>>>>>> owner of
>>>>>>> http://nonprofitawareness.blogspot.com/. While her goals may not
>>>>>>> perfectly aligned with Project PM in the blogging sense her focus on
>>>>>>> charitable acts and the dissemination of accurate information is
>>>>>>> certainly a
>>>>>>> fit. I think she has a lot to offer!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Scott Mintz <scott.w.mintz@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:26 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Project PM
>>>>>>> To: Courtney Brickman <court418@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Courtney,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I appreciate your valid concerns. With regards to your suggestion, we
>>>>>>> have a PDF undergoing creation which is intended to meet the tasks of
>>>>>>> identifying goals, strategies, and critical issues.It is something we
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> currently working on and expect its finalization will be instrumental
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> paving the way for proper software creation/implementation as well as
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> marketing efforts. I don't remember if this particular document is
>>>>>>> part of
>>>>>>> our shared Google docs, or if it was simply being emailed around. I
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> check when I get home, but for the former, it may be necessary for
>>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>> have a Google account in order to view and participate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As our network of participants grows, so do our connections and vast
>>>>>>> pool of experiences and expertise. While I personally have no clear
>>>>>>> cut
>>>>>>> answer for you how the Project PM software will directly benefit our
>>>>>>> anticipated charitable undertakings, it is my belief that we'll be
>>>>>>> utilizing
>>>>>>> the infrastructure we put in place that allows for the efficient
>>>>>>> connection
>>>>>>> and communication among many knowledgeable individuals. Without a
>>>>>>> doubt this
>>>>>>> is something that should not be neglected in order to best maximize
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> efforts, and I will raise this question to Barrett Brown shortly as
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> very possible he already has an answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Courtney Brickman <
>>>>>>> court418@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Scott,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for getting back to me. I certainly plan to attend the
>>>>>>>> meeting tomorrow evening. I’m still having a little trouble
>>>>>>>> envisioning what
>>>>>>>> Project PM’s structure looks like, but I’m getting there.  If I
>>>>>>>> could make
>>>>>>>> one suggestion, which I think would help bring others on board more
>>>>>>>> quickly,
>>>>>>>> I think the project would really benefit from a document identifying
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> critical issues Project PM will address, goals of the organization,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> finally  the strategies you’ll implement to achieve those goals (and
>>>>>>>> ultimately eliminating the issues). It just feels that with all the
>>>>>>>> planning
>>>>>>>> and  brainstorming things have gotten a little fuzzy. I have no
>>>>>>>> doubt that
>>>>>>>> you all know exactly what you are aiming for, so it’s just about
>>>>>>>> conveying
>>>>>>>> that to others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess the one area I’m still confused about is the connection
>>>>>>>> between the articles and the project’s charitable involvement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Scott Mintz [mailto:scott.w.mintz@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:43 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Courtney Brickman
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Project PM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Courtney,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is fair to say that the project does aim to correct erroneous
>>>>>>>> information being passed along to the masses, the intent of which is
>>>>>>>> to best
>>>>>>>> educate the individual. It don't think it would be accurate to say
>>>>>>>> that its
>>>>>>>> focus is on critical humanitarian issues, however, it is worth
>>>>>>>> mentioning
>>>>>>>> that the nature and personalities of those involved have resulted in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> previously mentioned two subproject.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I definitely agree that Project PM could be leveraged as a funding
>>>>>>>> vehicle for various charitable organization, but I think it's
>>>>>>>> important that
>>>>>>>> for the time being we square away our own financial requirements
>>>>>>>> before we
>>>>>>>> can start pursuing the needs of others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are still in the planning state, although we're very eager and
>>>>>>>> capable of beginning implementation once planning is complete. One
>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>> that you touched on is a major topic of discussion, which is to say
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> we're concerned about the accuracy and quality of distributed
>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>> As I proceed to describe our current philosophy, please note that it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> subject to change and that we're open to ideas. Currently,
>>>>>>>> participating
>>>>>>>> bloggers are being hand-chosen based on what we perceive to be
>>>>>>>> open-mindedness and journalistic integrity.  These bloggers will in
>>>>>>>> turn
>>>>>>>> invite a limited amount other bloggers whose works they will
>>>>>>>> temporarily
>>>>>>>> attached to, and the system will grow that way. In order to filter
>>>>>>>> out lower
>>>>>>>> quality articles we plan to implement two safeguards. The first is
>>>>>>>> that an
>>>>>>>> article pushed to someone in your network has the ability/decision
>>>>>>>> to push
>>>>>>>> it to his/her network or stop the article in its path. The second
>>>>>>>> system is
>>>>>>>> static based and relates to number of pushes, posts, etc. The goal
>>>>>>>> is to
>>>>>>>> make higher quality article of highly quality contributors more
>>>>>>>> readily
>>>>>>>> accessible to the public. Admittedly, these procedures are in heavy
>>>>>>>> discussion as we recognize that correctly sorting this out is
>>>>>>>> critical to
>>>>>>>> Project PM's success.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would be great and helpful to Project PM to have you participate
>>>>>>>> in more advanced discussions. As previously mentioned, we generally
>>>>>>>> hold an
>>>>>>>> informal meeting on Wednesdays at 6:30PM EST over IRC. This
>>>>>>>> particular week
>>>>>>>> I don't think I'm going to be able to make it due to prior
>>>>>>>> arrangements, but
>>>>>>>> I encourage you to attend. You may also visit the IRC at any time,
>>>>>>>> as there
>>>>>>>> is a good shot someone of various talent will be in the room.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Courtney Brickman <
>>>>>>>> court418@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope you had a nice weekend. Thank you for sending more background
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> Project PM.  Just to be clear, the project aims to discredit
>>>>>>>> erroneous media
>>>>>>>> reporting by publicizing the real story, and this is focused on
>>>>>>>> critical
>>>>>>>> humanitarian issues? From what you described, I could see Project PM
>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>> funding vehicle for organizations whose work falls within Project
>>>>>>>> PM’s
>>>>>>>> priorities. Especially if you are looking to connect with charities.
>>>>>>>> What is
>>>>>>>> the current state of the project? Are you just in the planning phase
>>>>>>>> or have
>>>>>>>> you begun to implement strategies?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My  interest and experience focuses on strategic planning, program
>>>>>>>> evaluation, and infrastructure development. That is primary the area
>>>>>>>> I’ve
>>>>>>>> solicited funds for. So certainly I’d be interested in participating
>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>> capacity that would assist Project PM in those areas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only thing I’d like a little more clarification on is the
>>>>>>>> distribution of information and how the information is being
>>>>>>>> acquired and
>>>>>>>> presented. I agree, a lot of the problems with Digg, etc is that
>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> everyone has an opportunity to contribute the creditability and
>>>>>>>> accuracy of
>>>>>>>> the information is compromised. I’m just wondering how you will
>>>>>>>> ensure that
>>>>>>>> the information presented is accurate and objective?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Scott Mintz [mailto:scott.w.mintz@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 01, 2010 4:39 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Courtney Brickman
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Project PM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Courtney,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Happy Halloween!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just wanted to give you a better idea of Project PM; its goals,
>>>>>>>> current state, and anticipated progress.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As previously mentioned, Project PM’s goals are multifaceted but the
>>>>>>>> overriding subject matter is the removal of informational
>>>>>>>> asymmetries with
>>>>>>>> the intention is improving society as a whole. For example, some of
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> existing participants have hands-on experience doing philanthropic
>>>>>>>> work in
>>>>>>>> Africa. Suggestions for improvement include but are not limited to
>>>>>>>> efficient
>>>>>>>> means of bringing drinkable water to isolated villages and ways of
>>>>>>>> increasing the usage of sustainable farming in order to prevent the
>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>> fishing of local waters, etc. Ultimately we’d like to achieve these
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> other goals using as little capital as possible while not
>>>>>>>> obstructing
>>>>>>>> success. However, at this point, this subproject is in the formative
>>>>>>>> stage
>>>>>>>> as we’ve just started discussions with individuals who are best in a
>>>>>>>> position to allow us to see it through.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another subproject that is in the formative stage but that we’ve
>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> more headway on is what we call the Science/Journalism project.
>>>>>>>> Essentially,
>>>>>>>> we feel there is a lot of misinformation spread by mass media when
>>>>>>>> it comes
>>>>>>>> to topics such as science and technology. We’ve established a group
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> knowledgeable persons whom we will be pairing with eager freelance
>>>>>>>> journalists. Using our various participants’ contacts we will be
>>>>>>>> aiding in
>>>>>>>> the publication of articles written by the journalists in
>>>>>>>> cooperating with
>>>>>>>> the scientists we’ve chosen, whom so far range from those educated
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> neurology to those educated in virology.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These and future subprojects will be executed using a technology
>>>>>>>> currently under design. We have more than a handful of computer
>>>>>>>> programmers
>>>>>>>> who are ready and willing to volunteer their time once we come up
>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>> finalized blueprint. On an almost daily basis, a core group of us
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> debating the current schematics and updating as necessary. While the
>>>>>>>> specifics still need to be determined the general theme of the
>>>>>>>> software will
>>>>>>>> be that feedback mechanisms will be used in order to make more
>>>>>>>> highly
>>>>>>>> recommended information rise to the top. This is similar to Reddit,
>>>>>>>> Digg,
>>>>>>>> etc., however in our system, although the public will have access to
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> information, only the feedback of participating members will have an
>>>>>>>> impact
>>>>>>>> on the information’s publicity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To help us reach these ends, a group of about 10 of us participating
>>>>>>>> in daily/weekly conversations via email/IRC/Gchat. This is an
>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>> informal process but with a great group of people who are more than
>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>> to work together harmoniously in order to advance Project PM.  Here
>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>> major area where I think your experience and expertise would be
>>>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>>>> useful. As Project PM grows and begins to take on a life of its own,
>>>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>> important for it to be molded properly, and I expect your advice
>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>> useful in guiding its success.  Even if you don’t have the time to
>>>>>>>> commit,
>>>>>>>> any suggestions and discussions would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finally, as the number of subprojects Project PM undertakes expands,
>>>>>>>> we expect that rather than taking on a challenge ourselves, it would
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> wiser to work with those who have already done so and have
>>>>>>>> experience in
>>>>>>>> helping out others. Your network of charities would be an invaluable
>>>>>>>> resource.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope this helps to add some additional color. Kindly feel free to
>>>>>>>> ask me any questions you may have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Barrett Brown
>>>>>>> 512-560-2302
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Barrett Brown
>>>>> 512-560-2302
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Barrett Brown
>>> 512-560-2302
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Barrett Brown
> 512-560-2302
>



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Regards,

Barrett Brown
512-560-2302