Re: I don't understand Reddit

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:

Probably won't be able to get in touch with him for a while, although I'd heard from him last week (he mentioned he was on a "crazy deadline," heh). I've gone ahead and written the Vanity Fair piece and the editor likes it, has to run it through legal department but I've dealt with them before. Here it is, should be appearing tomorrow:

On the occasion of what may prove to be the most significant story of the year in terms of the revelations it brings forth and the aftereffects of those revelations, National Review editor Rich Lowry began his commentary with the following point, as he describes it:

1) Rolling Stone? Rolling Stone???

Yes, Rich; the most impact-laden story of the year appeared in Rolling Stone, not National Review. And it was written by a perfect specimen of the new breed of journalist-commentator that will hopefully come to replace the old breed sooner rather than later, and which has already collectively surpassed the old guard by every measure that counts.

I should note - not only in the interest of full disclosure, but also necessary context - that I am a friend and admirer of Michael Hastings, the author of the Rolling Stone piece in question. He was kind enough to blurb my upcoming book on the failures of the American punditry (and is planning on writing a novel on the same topic, incidentally); he shares my opinions on the state of journalism and opinion in this country; and he has joined up with Project PM, my perhaps quixotic attempt to do a small part in improving that media which has recently had a hand in leaving hundreds of thousands dead and injured and damaging our republics ability to rationally operate both at home and abroad. I first spoke in support of Hastings before Id ever made contact with him, which is to say that my opinion of him is not based on our association; my association with him is based on my opinion of him, not the other way around. That opinion is derived from the unassailable and unfortunately noteworthy competence and conduct he has displayed throughout his relatively short career.

Those who have seen fit to question Hastings motivations in writing this article ought to know a little about him before making the pronouncements they will continue to make on his character, inconvenient as that knowledge may be to those who are in the business of casting aspersions on those of whom they know nothing about. Hastings was for a time Newsweeks Baghdad correspondent. In 2008, that mediocre publication assigned him to cover our republics most recent and ridiculous electoral contest, and as a consequence, the fellow got an insiders view of how terribly destructive is the manner in which this country covers its most important decisions. Of course, this sentiment is widespread among the more observant media professionals, who generally do not act on it out of concern for their own careers. In contrast, Hastings quit Newsweek and wrote a damning expose about what he had seen and experienced during his stint. During a time in which many journalists thought of little more than how they would attain security for themselves, Hastings ensured that he would never be trusted by the Establishment media ever again.

At this time, Hastings is in Kandahar performing further crimes against the status quo and is thus unable to defend himself against those who are largely responsible for the problems he has helped to bring to light, and so I will take this opportunity to do it for him. This brings us back to Rich Lowry, whom we last saw declaiming Rolling Stone for not being as respectable as National Review and who later that day found time to voice more substantive objections:

The Rolling Stone piece by Michael Hastings has some excellent color about McChrystal's interactions with the troops and the rocket-fuel of those controversial quotes. Otherwise, it's pretty lackluster and very anti-war. This is hilarious over-writing about McChrystal: "His slate-blue eyes have the unsettling ability to drill down when they lock on you. If you've f-ed up or disappointed him, they can destroy your soul without the need for him to raise his voice." Destroy your soul?

It takes a special brand of shamelessness to accuse someone of over-writing after having just seconds before described a series of significant quotes as rocket-fuel. This is doubly true when the shameless writer in question is perhaps best known for the following passage, which may qualify as the most worthless bit of commentary from the very 2008 election news cycle that so disgusted Hastings:

Palin too projects through the screen like crazy. I'm sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America. This is a quality that can't be learned; it's either something you have or you don't, and man, she's got it."

Incidentally, this telling bit of zeta-male-ish output was interspersed with several years of objections from Lowry and his associates to the effect that Obamas fans were merely starstruck by a telegenic empty suit. More telling, of course, is Lowrys dismissal of an extraordinarily important article as anti-war. I look forward to the point at which National Review, which remains an exceedingly Catholic entity, realizes that their very Pope is also anti-war in this and most other contexts and thereby concludes that it would be shameful to continue to cast aspersions on others for holding views they tolerate in their beloved representative of God on earth. I also look forward to being made Pope myself. I am a tremendous optimist for someone who has grown up amidst the twilight of American competence. But now I am engaging in a bit of over-writing myself, for which I apologize to Mr. Lowry, fond admirer of little starbursts.

Now I shall retract my apology in the face of the following statement, delivered after Lowry had finally deigned to reading the silly magazine that scooped his own:

I've now read the piece which as you might expect is very defeatist.

One might expect that any article which puts forth the plain facts of what is happening in a war that National Review and even a great many liberal pundits declared to have ended in victory some seven years ago might appear defeatist to the very people who have since been proven not just wrong, but ludicrously and repeatedly wrong, time and time again, on this very subject. If the article sounds defeatist, perhaps this is because it describes a situation that has evolved into a slow and almost inevitable defeat even by the initial standards of the very people who demanded it.

Speaking of defeatism - so clearly the exclusive province of radical liberals who wish to see the U.S. fail in its failed expeditions - let us, for no particular reason, take a look back at something National Review founder William Buckley wrote a few years ago:

One cant doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed.

Clearly this long-haired Buckley fellow is a defeatist and ought to be ignored. Perhaps he submitted the essay in question to Rolling Stone before running it in his own magazine? At any rate, this pronouncement that no one can doubt our failure in Iraq is rather strange, coming at a time when several of Buckleys own writers remained amusingly hopeful that any real victory was still viable - as many of them still do today - but then the late fellow can be forgiven for not having at this point been in the habit of reading his own magazine. I myself am a subscriber and find myself constantly distracted by the ads, many of which are written to look like articles and which routinely conjure up non-existent global financial entities in order to convince the publications readers to buy coins in exchange for some unspecified number of payments in order that they might also receive a free safe. Advertisers know their audience, of course. But let me attempt to refute two more of Lowrys commonplace brand of objections without this time stopping to insult thousands of other people in the process:

Hastings refers to "the doomed offensive in Marja," which makes it sound as though the Taliban repulsed us, when we took actually took the city (although the Taliban is still carrying out attacks).

Hastings may have chosen the term doomed because the offensive eventually led to a problematic which occupation which McChrystal himself terms an ulcer due to it not having achieved what it was meant to achieve, which is to say that it was doomed. Perhaps Lowry could ride his rocket-fueled rockets over to Kandahar and ask him himself. But then he is busy quoting Max Boot, the military commentator whose record in making predictions has proven to be less useful than that of a tossed coin:

Boot also notes how the experts quoted by Hastings are all critical of the war.

... except, of course, for Gen. McChrysal and his advisers, whom Hastings interviewed for a month before duly quoting them over and over again in the article...

All of which underlines the poor judgment in giving this guy such access.

Here, finally, Lowry has hit upon a valid point. McChrystal and Co. would have exhibited far better judgment had they looked into Hastings career and writings and come to the obvious conclusion that this sort of journalist has nothing to lose in reporting a series of demonstrable facts. Unlike many of this countrys most respected commentators, Hastings did not spend the better part of a decade repeating conventional wisdom about our allegedly unprecedented success in two wars that have already proven to be abject failures, and thus he has no reason to simply take the word of some or another confused presidential administration that everything is under control, or will be after some additional years of blood and treasure expenditures. McChrystal would have been better off talking to Thomas Friedman, who is so amusingly naive that in 2001 he declared Vladimir Putin to be a force for good for whom Americans all ought to be rootin, a term he chose because it rhymes with Putin. McChrystal would have been somewhat less better-off talking to Charles Krauthammer, who has long been the most respected of conservative commentators despite the fact that he has been demonstrably wrong about every U.S. military action of the last twelve years and plenty else besides; the Washington Post columnist would have presumably returned with another round of good news and thereby jinxed the entire operation. Neither of these men are defeatists, of course; both declared victory in Afghanistan long ago. Both have won the Pulitzer Prize for commentary. Friedman himself now sits on the Pulitzer committee. And thus it is that Hastings and others like him will never win any Pulitzer Prizes for journalism or commentary no matter how much their work changes the course of history, which is just as well as they seem to be made from lead and recipients seem unable to refrain from licking them. This is only my own hypothesis, of course.

Seriously, though, look at the ads in National Review some time.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Clark Robinson <robinsonchicago@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I think Project PM can be a structure by which new voices can find a readership and that will be something to be proud of indeed. Hope you get through to Hastings, actually quite a remarkable guy himself apart from this, overcoming substance addiction, death of finance, commitment to factual reporting.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
I like some of Matt Taibbi's stuff, and he was kind enough to give me a book blurb, but I find his writing style a bit irritating. Also he writes quite a bit on economics, which is beyond my purview. Altogether, he really is one of the new class of journalists/commentators, like Hastings, whom we will hopefully advance in the coming years; of course, today's events show that many of them are more than capable of advancing themselves.

I'm trying to get in touch with Hastings now; he's apparently in Kandahar. Trying to get him a message through Rolling Stone editor as his Afghan cell isn't working. Vanity Fair wants me to do a piece on him and all of this kerfluffle - I'm going to point to Hastings as the opposite number to Friedman and Krauthammer and all of these failed people - so this will be a good chance to make mention of Project PM (which of course was pre-announced in VF some months back). Another plus - Hastings blurbed my upcoming book, which might help to get it some attention when it's released in August.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Clark Robinson <robinsonchicago@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, congratulations on getting the attention from Harpers, based on the parts I have read at VF, they should be glad to get something that good.

Michael Roston indicates that Mike Allen has posted a pdf of Hasting's article at Politico, but I could not find it.

Another guy who I think is going to be getting increasingly broad attention is Pisatel' (Adomanis), who is developing a readership in Russia, as well as here.

Some others I like at True/Slant who might be worthwhile recruiting if you haven't already are Michael Salmonowicz who writes about education, John Knefel who though he is a comedian is a latent political commentator, and as you know I like E. D. Kain.

I suppose some people might not like Kain since he sometimes writes stuff that is hard to agree with, for instance he trashed Matt Taibbi for "potty mouth," anti-theism and formulaic posts, but it is an interesting point of view and seemed honestly held, if unpersuasive. I think Kain also wrote of couple of posts in defense of the Pope, which were likewise really unconvincing, but were the best attempts I have seen. (I hope I remember the latter correctly; I went back and tried to find his Pope posts, but T/S does not have a good search tool for older material.) Also, Kain's post about Taibbi reminded me of sitting in the audience at Second City a few years back, and realizing that a lot of the laughs were obtained by extra-loud statements with various forms of 'fuck,' triggering nervous release in all us uptite cornbelters and thinking jeez, this is thin material. On the other hand I once got some movement at HQ by an e-mail to my lady boss that I had "been fucked" by another part of the bureaucracy, so yeah the word has power.

Another guy at T/S who is interesting and I can't imagine being picked up by Forbes is David Masciotra, who vents nice outrage about what is happening to the middle class around here, although he sometimes seems to overgeneralize from anecdotal experience.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, also, our participant Michael Hastings, who just got on the PM blog a week back and is still in Afghanistan, seems to have had a hand in history:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/world/asia/23mcchrystal.html?hp

Meanwhile, Harpers is considering running excerpts from my next book; will hear back from them soon with confirmation either way. If so, this will be a magnificent recruiting opportunity.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, I deleted the thing because it didn't seem to have gone through properly, I'll submit another version. Generally, they appear in the "new" section, where they may potentially be voted up sufficiently to appear on the "what's hot" main page of the sub-reddit in question, and then possibly the main page of reddit if sufficiently upvoted. But after a time, they will decline back down out of plain view, so it's really only good for a short time.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Clark Robinson <robinsonchicago@gmail.com> wrote:
I got a Reddit account, but I can not figure out how to navigate from within Reddit to the science journalism item you put up (I can only access it from link from your e-mail). So how would someone browsing Reddit come across it?

I got Science on my top horizontal menu, but when I open Science the menu horizontally to the right of Science is: what's hot/new/controversial/top/saved whereas yours is comments/related/shirt. How do I get 'comments?'

(Not complaining, I can spend an hour in Reddit just reading around).

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