Re: Book
Subject: Re: Book
From: Clark Robinson <robinsonchicago@gmail.com>
Date: 5/26/10, 15:04
To: Scott Mintz <scott.w.mintz@gmail.com>
CC: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>

This is fun.

Rewards: I guess giving a book would depend on the cost-per-book, so that might be an extra reward for higher donors who give somewhat more than book & shipping costs us.

Need an interesting reward for $5 donors: We should be able to burn and mail a CD for under a couple of dollars, right?  Maybe Mark Adomanis would be willing to debate Barrett and we could put a video of that on CD: "Resolved: Evil Men Can Deliver Good Government?" (Something like that would be so interesting I might travel to witness it.) I think Allison Kilkenny is a supporter of this project, so maybe she would do a Citizen Radio show and let it be on the CD. I was interested to note that over half the Kickstart team live in Brooklyn -- is Brooklyn the new San Francisco?  (I am not current on stuff like that.)  When I was getting the links for Barrett's articles out of BushwickBK I noticed the rents for 1 bedroom apartments are comparable to Chicago, which surprised me, (I expected anywhere in NYC to be a lot more). Anyway, maybe Jeremy Sapienza or Barrett or Scott could do a video tour showing why Bushwick is a mecca for whoever it's a mecca for.

With regard to the descriptive material below, I like it and here are a couple of quibbles: I don't like the term 'think tank' applied to this--in addition to establishment connotations, I think PPM differs from a think tank in that the network structure permits new commentators or analysts who have worthwhile or important material that the citizenry should read to reach a broad audience, even if the writer is young and has not served time getting all credentialed up in government, academia or the old journalism.

Probably should work in that there is new software being built to make sure quality work gets recognized and to enable the reader to access, navigate, and participate in dialogue with the writers and other members of the PPM community.  Well, you did that, now that I re-read, never mind.

I don't like the term 'transparency': its thrown around way too much currently, and it's metaphorical to begin with, so it ultimately has no concrete meaning.

I don't like the term 'the masses,' could seem patronizing.



Clark Robinson
Chicago
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On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Scott Mintz <scott.w.mintz@gmail.com> wrote:
Those sound like good ideas, if possible.  Honestly, I have no idea what to give, but I think Kickstart should rank high in priorities. I know Barrett is fairly busy working on the Manifest and VF article, but I think something like this would be very helpful in providing us with the capital necessary to put many things in motion.

I wrote the below very early in the morning so if it's verbose then I apologize. Also, it's simply my words and have no idea of their accuracy. This should simply be viewed as nothing more than a place to start (I imagine Barrett's manifest may be answering some of the same questions and possibly with different answers).

This particular piece was written with Kickstart as the main audience. Kindly let me know what you think.

Image: The Project PM Logo
Teaser: Form a self-perpetuating online-based think tank made up of a diverse group of independent thinkers whose collective knowledge will serve the public interest.
Video: A video of Barrett introducing himself, talking a little about his credentials, and what inspired him to come up with Project PM

Why are we doing this?

 What makes this different from something like Wikipedia?

 How are you sure the resulting information is actionable?

 How do you expect the network will work?

 How will your money be used?

 Is there anything else I should know?

 What do I do if I have any questions?



On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Clark Robinson <robinsonchicago@gmail.com> wrote:
One of the features of Kickstart seems to be that you offer "rewards" to entice donors (Diaspora sends donors a CD with the software when they finish it), what could we offer?  Free admission to a Citizen Radio event?  Autographed copy of Barrett's new book? 


Clark Robinson
Chicago
217-722-8680



On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Scott Mintz <scott.w.mintz@gmail.com> wrote:
Self-perpetuating fit perfectly!

On a side note, I decided to Google virtual think tank to see how original that is and I came across the attached logo at the following website:

http://virtualthinktank.net/

I have no idea if it costs something, but it may be worth trademarking the Project PM name and logo. Could the patent lawyer be able to assist with this?

Also, concurrent with that thought, does Project PM have an official web address?


On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, although it might be better to call it "self-perpetuating."


On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Scott Mintz <scott.w.mintz@gmail.com> wrote:
I was browsing the Kickstarter website and it certainly seems that projects such as ours may receive considerable support.

Is the following an accurate statement of Project PM?

To form a self-sustaining online-based think tank made up of a diverse group of independent thinkers whose collective knowledge will serve the public interest.



On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I've actually read summaries of the case made within and have sort of integrated the concept into my thinking on PM already.


On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Scott Mintz <scott.w.mintz@gmail.com> wrote:
Have either of you ever heard of the book Wisdom of Crowds?  I have only read excerpts of it, but I thought its message to be highly applicable to Project PM:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds




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Barrett Brown
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