Subject: Chat with Miriam Carothers
From: Miriam Carothers <m.w.carothers@gmail.com>
To: barriticus@gmail.com

Miriam: Rutgers is the number two philosophy department in the country, numbe one is NYU, number three is Princeton.
me: yeah, the professor was telling me how the school isn't that great but their philosophy and certain other departments are pretty swell
Miriam: If you've been invited there you must be as slick as hot rat shit according to sources
me: maybe, my first book was well-received
Miriam: huh. You are considered pretty fucking rad amongst the philosophy set then.
me: mostly the skeptic set
me: although I suppose I've made a couple of contributions to media theory in particular, but I'm only known among certain circles
Miriam: which ones?
me: mostly those involved with or who follow the intelligent design thing, in which I became one of the better-known defenders of evolutionary theory and antagonists of the ID leadership, which has attacked me a couple of times as a result
me: also, just the skeptic/science education/pro-science crowd in general
me: the National Center for Science Education got in touch and offered to assist me in whatever I'm up to, for instance
me: otherwise, I'm mostly known for media criticism
me: what are you up to?
Miriam: If you want to be a public person you've got to be more cautious of the way you choose to present yourself.
me: This Haiti thing is putting my financial problems in perspective
me: well, there's precedent; political humorists can get away with a lot
me: and I don't generally talk about my personal life or otherwise convey it
me: in the course of my public undertakings
Miriam: It worries you are not Al Hirshfeld for ex....bad ex.
me: ?
me: don't understand
Miriam: Sorry, too many people chatting me at once. You are not Al Hischfeld, bad example as it is...
Miriam: Can't escape city tonight ng.dwinking champers and seeth
Miriam: seething
me: you're not heading off? work issues?
Miriam: Si senor.
me: that's a shame
Miriam: Well, Katie popped in since plans were canceled and informed me that you're the beez kneez.
Miriam: Philosophy teachin' wise.
me: who's that?
Miriam: Bad ass Barriticus.
me: I'm actually in philosophical turmoil
Miriam: My philuddy.osophy phd candidate b
Miriam: buddy.
me: or rather, political science turmoil
Miriam: pour quoi?
me: I'm starting to abandon my libertarian leanings due to my anxieties over the technological innovations of the future and humanity's poor track record in preparing for impending disaster
Miriam: join the club. Amputations.
me: basically, I'm becoming a statist out of concern for humanity
me: which is weird to me
Miriam: You're human?
me: I didn't say that
Miriam: ;)
me: perhaps I'll convert to Islam
me: I just need some acid and I can do it
Miriam: Me too man! Totally rad my miiiiiindddddddddddd.
me: Used to live with a Muslim who was always scared of djinn sitting on his chest
Miriam: Do Islamic folks like kitties?
me: yes
Miriam: whew!
Miriam: what's djinn?
me: creatures of fire, present in Islamic theology; they live essentially with us but are invisible to us. Seeing one can cause a person to go mad; they possess people. Occasionally they even move buildings, as they allegedly did in Muscat twenty years ago, according to one of my old Muslim cronies
Miriam: What is your Chinese sign and element?
me: rooster
me: not sure of element
Miriam: I'm a metal monkey for example.
me: metal monkey
me: very good
me: what does that mean?
Miriam: I'll look you up.
Miriam: what time were you born?
me: not sure
me: 7-8 am, I seem to recall
me: not recall, rather, but that's what I seem to have been told
me: Ben Stiller on Haiti
me: that's a CNN headline right now
Miriam: bargf.
Miriam: barf.
Miriam: Roosters are adept at presenting themselves in both speech and writing.
Miriam: Yay. Well, that workst doesn'tit? ou
me: we have to, no real job skills
Miriam: Tee hee.
Miriam: perfectionists and tireless workers.....
me: nope
me: I'm often slapdash in my work
me: luckily it works out
me: what does your metal monkey signify?
Miriam: A rooster born at dawn will be the loudest and most talkative of the of the lot...
Miriam: You are a metal rooster.
me: very well
Miriam: Opinionated and headstrong roosters have an ovveriding need for recognition and fame.
me: yep
Miriam: practical and industrious and can dazzle others with their brilliant powers of deduction. Gifted and high-powered orators.
Miriam: Inclined to simply shut down their opponents.
Miriam: Although inclined to material wealth, they find fulfillment in service to humanity and may be passionately committed to instituting social reforms for the good of all.
Miriam: Whew.
me: hmmm
Miriam: there you go Barriticus!
me: surprisingly accurate
Miriam: I know!
me: doesn't seem to fall under false hit category
me: false positives, rather
Miriam: Nope, pretty dear-on.
Miriam: dead-on
me: what are you drinking?
Miriam: I apologize for the crazy type. Cats sat on my key pad.
me: used to have that problem
Miriam: Pink Champers (Cava) on ice.....like the Eagles song maaaaan!
me: very fancy
Miriam: I'm a fancy gal.
Miriam: Yer a fancy boy. We should discuss in the hot tub at Erin's b-day party whatever pops up....
me: very well, is that the 30th party?
Miriam: Si senor!
Miriam: I'm getting a car to pick us up.
me: ultra-fancy
Miriam: And deliver us to crown heights.
Miriam: wheeeee
Miriam: I'm not fancy, just festive. Didjya get my spiritualized video?
me: I did indeed
Miriam: here's another
Miriam: It sounds like you. I am sound.
me: haven't found any songs of theirs I like outside of come down album
Miriam: Dandy Warhols "I am Sound"
Miriam: It is you.
Miriam: Kinda like Sinatra jr's some velvet morning....
Miriam: Find it and post it yo!
me: no problemo
me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb-SVPJM4L4
Miriam: I think you're more like the dandy's song "I am sound" but whatevs.
me: nah, not my mentality, sort of morose or something
me: Haiti's so fucked
me: they have zero infrastructure and low level of institutions
me: it's just going to get worse
Miriam: I know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
me: over next few days
me: U.S. response is pathetic
Miriam: I have no emotions.
me: 100 million
me: world bank, IMF, UN
Miriam: Try being a doctor over there. Bullshit. There is nothing we can do.
me: UN gave 10 million
me: I know
me: can;t even get supplies in
Miriam: lemme call yon,
me: word
Miriam: phone died.
Miriam: Bucky balls.
me: yeah, caught that
Miriam: Ennyvay, you would lurve this book. It's such an oddity.
Miriam: Like you.
Miriam: Brilliant.
me: Fuller's a hell of a futurist; sorry, my English neighbor just called, wants to come by in an hour
me: Buckminster Fuller spoke and wrote in a unique style and said it important to describe the world as accurately as possible.[34] Fuller often created long run-on sentences and used unusual compound words (omniwell-informed, intertransformative, omni-interaccommodative, omniself-regenerative) as well as terms he himself invented.
Miriam: Sorry for what?
me: my 20-second absence
me: I'm a very apologetic person
Miriam: Well, Bucky is a family friend and you remind me of his tendencies.
Miriam: He's long gone of course.
me: he's very admirable
Miriam: But I'm in touch with his daughter Leslie.
Miriam: Very Barrett speed.
me: surprised I haven't heard of him, he's clearly a significant thinker
Miriam: My grandmother lived with him. He was groovy. And progressive.
Miriam: Well,you pointed out that book of all the gobbeldygook I'm reading and thought I'd elaborate.
me: he words "down" and "up", according to Fuller, are awkward in that they refer to a planar concept of direction inconsistent with human experience. The words "in" and "out" should be used instead, he argued, because they better describe an object's relation to a gravitational center, the Earth. "I suggest to audiences that they say, "I'm going 'outstairs' and 'instairs.'" At first that sounds strange to them; They all laugh about it. But if they try saying in and out for a few days in fun, they find themselves beginning to realize that they are indeed going inward and outward in respect to the center of Earth, which is our Spaceship Earth. And for the first time they begin to feel real "reality."
me: I'm very impressed with his tendency to revise accepted aspects of world view
Miriam: I'm almost crying!
Miriam: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Miriam: This is how I live!
Miriam: At least you appreciate a clever mind.
Miriam: Bucky is beyond the beyond.
Miriam: :'(
me: I'm going to read some of his work
me: might be useful to me
Miriam: please do and it will!
Miriam: He is a force to be reckoned with.
me: has a background in math and physics, which I don't; my output is more politically- and socially-oriented
me: simply because I know nothing else
Miriam: Sigh, I'll be happy even if we never speak again but I know that you've been turned on to Bucky Fuller! I mean that. His outlook on the world is gorgeous.
Miriam: He went to harvard with my grandmother's brother's
Miriam: brothers.
Miriam: She went to bryn mawr.
Miriam: Women weren't allowed.
Miriam: to harvard.
Miriam: at the time.
Miriam: In a cogent sense
me: disease is going to spread like wildfire in Port-au-prince
Miriam: Indus is a religiontrialization
me: is that a Fuller line?
me: religiontrialization
Miriam: My computer is scrambles, wait a sec
Miriam: Industrialization is a religion,and the first to ever promise
Miriam: self perpetuation
me: wonder if he ever had any connection to Ayn Rand
me: she's the only other person I can think of who spoke of industrialization in those terms
Miriam: Industrialization considered as a religion
Miriam: is also unique in that it has no preists
Miriam: that is if we exempt
me: capitalists?
me: foremen?
me: perhaps they're more like acolytes
Miriam: the self appointed publicitors
Miriam: who are willing; nay eager,- nay nuts
Miriam: to be druid Merlins, Richelieux, Rasputins
Miriam: Savonarolas, or Wolseys
Miriam: to anybody with enough money,-
Miriam: their only criteria of authority.
Miriam: But the Publicitors cannot be said
Miriam: to sufficiently comprehend Industrialization
me: who did he mean by term Publicitors?
Miriam: to be considered representative preists.
Miriam: They are more in the nature of being
Miriam: if furtively meddling buffoons
Miriam: They make it a merry religion
Miriam: when they get foolrd;-
Miriam: as they always do.
Miriam: You've got to read this Barrett.
me: yeah
Miriam: You'd swoon.
me: I don't swoon all too easily
Miriam: To this you ld.
Miriam: would
Miriam: I do!
Miriam: It's my most valuable object.
Miriam: This freaking book.
me: I'll bet
me: inscribed to your grandma?