| Subject: Re: note from NCSE |
| From: Robert Luhn <luhn@ncseweb.org> |
| Date: 11/30/09, 16:23 |
| To: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com> |
Yeah, I saw. What a doof!
r
Hi-
Been busy with the book and stuff, but will get back to you at greater
length later this week. Meanwhile:
http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/30/on-the-origin-of-specious-arguments/
Ha. Ha.
Barrett
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Robert Luhn <luhn@ncseweb.org
<mailto:luhn@ncseweb.org>> wrote:
Sir: Nice of you to write. And I think we're experiencing a bit of
synchronicity. For starters, I just finished a campaign we mounted
in opposition to Ray Comfort, the infamous creationist (and pal of
Kirk Cameron) who is famous for his banana video. (If you haven't
seen this, hie thee to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4). My response? I wrote
a little faux PSA and assembled a crew and shot the thing
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXwZM81XDUA). Fun stuff this.
Haven't been tapped as a head writer, but am trolling in some of
the same realms as you. Have a "30 Rock" script that NBC has
apparently agreed to look at, and another one in the hands of
Comedy Central. The kicker, of course, is finding an agent who
handles this kind of stuff--namely, TV comedy. Any recommendations?
But back to your note. Yep, if you dig into ID, let us know. We
have, um, ideas on this!
Promoting same? I guess pretty much what I did with our faux PSA.
I flogged it on Facebook and Myspace, twittered about it, sent
emails to every journalist and blogger that I thought was
appropos, used a press release distribution service (like
Newswise), and tried to find like minded organizations (like, say,
Americans United) to flog the thing as well. Finding allies is key!
I'm with you on the unnecessary part. I was at a biosci teachers
conference last week, and I told alot of people that I'll be glad
when the NCSE doesn't have to exist anymore!
r
Howdy, Robert-
First off, I picked up a copy of that PR/marketing book you
recommended; have only had a chance to scan it a bit so far
but some of the sections do appear to be very useful, so
thanks for the tip.
Second, I've been asked to serve as head writer on a
television pilot (and the series if it gets picked up); it's
to be an investigative (read: ambush) journalism program with
a little humor mixed in and pretty cool all-around format. If
we do the series, I'll ensure that we cover intelligent design
or something of that nature ASAP, and that we do it in an
extraordinarily mean way.
Third, our PAC Enlighten the Vote is about to release its
first 30-second promotional spot via YouTube and reddit and
whatnot; I wrote the script a while back and finally found
someone to actually put it together, and am expecting it back
by December 5th. If you have any ideas on how to best promote
it and all that, please let me know.
I've been finishing up my book this month so haven't written a
single article for HuffPo or anything, but am planning a
campaign of terror or at least annoyance directed at Dembski
and his cohorts just in time for Christmas.
Also, Michael Shermer is writing for True/Slant now. We've got
a nice little skeptic contingent going over there.
Anyway, hope things are going well over there at the NCSE.
Here's hoping that both our organizations become unnecessary
at some point in the country's future.
Regards,
Barrett Brown
Brooklyn, NY
512-560-2302
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Robert Luhn <luhn@ncseweb.org
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Coooool. Thanks!
r
Great, I'll probably give you a ring next week. In the
meantime, I give the NCSE permission to reprint any of my
materials that appear on Huffington Post and
True/Slant, as I
retain the rights to those works. Here's my latest piece on
intelligent design nonsense, by the way:
http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/09/04/intelligent-design-advocate-mocking-of-scientist-by-other-scientists-a-century-ago-is-evolutions-legacy-of-shame/
Thanks,
Barrett Brown
Brooklyn, NY
512-560-2302
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Robert Luhn
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wrote:
Sir: Feel free to contact us when the need arises.
As for
humorous
slap downs...ooooh, you're on the list. (I loved
Amazon's
take as
your book being "serenely offensive". God knows we could
use more
of that.)
Ah...and you're a fellow Dir. of Comm. (Before I got
this
gig last
year, I was a journalist for mannnny years.) Well,
you got Qs
about promoting stuff? Let's talk. Gimme a ring
someday and
I'll
share with ye what I know.
One resource I'd recommend you check out: "The New
Rules of
Marketing and PR: How to Use News Releases, Blogs,
Podcasting,
Viral Marketing and Online Media to Reach Buyers
Directly" by
David M. Scott. Some of his ideas are pretty
obvious....but
some
aren't. and it's a good all around look at the trad
and modern
tools at one's disposal. I mean, I used to run tech pubs
like PC
World,Computer Currents and CNET...and even I found some
gems in
here. So worth a look.
Anyways, call when the mood strikes. My number is at the
bottom of
the page....
r
Hi, Robert-
Thanks for getting in touch. I'm very familiar
with the
NCSE
and the work it does, and I may take you up on your
offer of
informational assistance in the future. Also, if the
NCSE is
in need of any humorous take-downs of anyone or
any other
written materials with which to promote the
organization or
get a particular point across, I'd be happy to
provide
them.
Incidentally, I also serve as director of
communications for
Enlighten the Vote, formerly GAMPAC; I'm barely
27 and not
entirely well-versed in the particular mechanics of
political
advocacy or anything else other than writing, so
if you
have
any general advice on how to go about promoting
the PAC
(for
instance, sending out press releases), I'd love
to hear
them.
Don't hesitate to let me know if there's
anything I can
do for
you and the NCSE.
Thanks again,
Barrett Brown
Brooklyn, NY
512-560-2302
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wrote:
Dear Mr. Brown:
Have been enjoying your posts on Huff and Vanity
Fair. (And, of
course, your classic "Flock of Dodos"). Hence
this note!
I work for the National Center for Science
Education
(NCSE), the
leading organization that promotes and
defends the
teaching of
evolution in the public schools. (You might
have seen us
covered
in the Nova documentary "Judgment Day:
Intelligent
Design on
Trial". Then again, you may have talked with
Genie
Scott, our
executive director, a dozen times. In which case,
this note
is moot!)
We've been involved in the issue for 25
years, and
we're a
ready
resource should you ever need background
information, access to
independent experts (local and national), and
more,
for any
future
jottings you might tackle on evolution,
creationism/ID, science
denial, or related topics. There's a lot to talk
about in this
realm, notably, the spread of "academic
freedom" bills
designed to
smuggle creationism back into the classroom
(such as the
one that
passed in Louisiana), and state boards of
education
fiddling with
science standards (as we've recently seen in
Texas).
Well...don't
hesitate to contact us!
Yours,
Robert Luhn
Director of Communications
National Center for Science Education, Inc.
420 40th Street, Suite 2
Oakland, CA 94609-2509
510-601-7203 x314
fax: 510-601-7204
800-290-6006
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National Center for Science Education, Inc.
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-- Robert Luhn
Director of Communications
National Center for Science Education, Inc.
420 40th Street, Suite 2
Oakland, CA 94609-2509
510-601-7203 x314
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800-290-6006
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Director of Communications
National Center for Science Education, Inc.
420 40th Street, Suite 2
Oakland, CA 94609-2509
510-601-7203 x314
fax: 510-601-7204
800-290-6006
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