Ghost-
>
> Let me try to explain this in a different way:
>
> 1. You claimed that no one ever links to the evidence of McCain's racism
> when they accuse him of being a racist.
>
> 2. I asked you to point out an example of an article in which I have
> accused
> McCain of being a racist without also linking to evidence of his racism.
>
> 3. You said that this would be fine, but then you asked me for a link.
>
> 4. It would seem that you haven't read my articles on McCain and say that
> you are to busy to "find" them, which is fine.
>
> 5. If you haven't read my articles on McCain, then you obviously have no
> way
> of knowing that no one ever links to evidence of his racism, since I may
> very well have linked to evidence of his racism in the articles you didn't
> read. So, you're making a claim about something that you can't verify.
>
> 6. Read number five again.
>
> 7. One more time.
>
> 8. Imagine I have several houses. You say to me, "Why is it that no one
> paints the inside their houses blue?" I reply, "Well, you can go in one of
> my houses and see for yourself that, in fact, the insides of all of my
> houses are painted blue." You reply, "I'm too busy to go look inside these
> houses because I'm a corporate strategist." Do you see how that might be
> silly? Here you are, claiming that none of my houses are blue on the
> inside,
> and yet you haven't really been inside any of my houses to verify this.
> All
> you'd have to do is go into one house to see that the walls inside are
> blue,
> and the very blueness of these walls in this one house should tell you
> that,
> contrary to your claim that none of the houses are painted blue inside, at
> least one is. And then later I could show all the houses and you would
> find
> that they are all blue on the inside - which is to say, again, that you
> were not only wrong about none of them being blue on the inside, but also
> extra wrong insomuch as that they are all blue.
>
> 9. I'm trying to think of an even simpler way to explain this but I can't.
> Anyway, the houses are my articles on Stacy McCain and blue interiors
> constitute links to evidence of his racism.
>
> 10. Still, let's do it your way. Below you will find links to a couple of
> my
> articles on McCain. You will notice that each of these articles includes
> links to evidence that McCain is a racist. Now, if you see even one link
> to
> evidence of McCain's racism in one of these articles in which I assert
> that
> McCain is a racist, that means you are wrong about no one ever linking to
> evidence of McCain's racism in articles in which it is asserted that
> McCain
> is a racist, wouldn't it? And if you were to see a whole bunch of links to
> evidence of his racism in a whole bunch of these articles, it would mean
> that you were very, very wrong.
>
>
http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/18/mccain-composes-non-defense-of-his-blatant-racism/
>
>
http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/17/a-wild-mccain-appears/
>
>
http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/13/robert-stacy-mccain-white-supremacist-weirdo/
>
> So, there you go. Just click one of those links, take a look at one of
> these
> articles that you've already implicitly characterized as not containing
> links to evidence of McCain's racism, and then take a look at the links to
> evidence of McCain's racism. Meanwhile, I'm going to go kill myself.
>
> Regards,
>
> Barrett Brown
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:10 AM, <
ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
>
>> Barrett,
>> Good grief! A snipe hunt?
>> Please, I am a little too busy to find random articles that you have
>> written...I am a corporate strategist in my "spare" time. If you have
>> the
>> link and do want to have a productive discussion then please just
>> provide
>> the link.
>> Regards, Ghost
>>
>>
>> Ghost-
>> >
>> > You might want to try reading my last e-mail again. I'm asking you to
>> > prove
>> > your assertion that no one links to the evidence of McCain's racism
>> when
>> > they claim that McCain is a racist. To do this, you'll need to go
>> through
>> > the articles I've written on McCain, find one that doesn't link to
>> > evidence
>> > of his racism, and then send me that link. Good luck!
>> >
>> > Expectingly Yours,
>> >
>> > Barrett Brown
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:08 AM, <
ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Barrett,
>> >> Of course I would have no problem with it...where is it?
>> >> Link please....
>> >> Regards, Ghost
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ghost-
>> >> >
>> >> > You ask, "why is it that no one that makes these claims ever links
>> the
>> >> > evidence of it to their "claims"?"
>> >> >
>> >> > If someone makes a claim about another person without linking to
>> >> > supporting
>> >> > evidence, then that someone has done a terrible and irresponsible
>> >> thing
>> >> > indeed. So, since you yourself are claiming that I don't link to
>> >> evidence
>> >> > of
>> >> > my claims regarding McCain when I write about him, you should have
>> no
>> >> > problem linking to an article I've written on McCain that does not
>> >> include
>> >> > a
>> >> > link to evidence of his racism.
>> >> >
>> >> > I look forward to your prompt and successful citation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Barrett Brown
>> >> > Brooklyn, NY
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <
ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Barrett,
>> >> >> No problems, I understood the minute I saw the "Mr.Ghost"
>> that
>> >> >> there was merely a misunderstanding.I too have a very disorganized
>> >> inbox
>> >> >> thanks to 'to much to do' as I'm sure you are experiencing also.
>> >> >> Frankly I am surprised that an accomplished man such as yourself
>> >> would
>> >> >> say, to quote you, "I admire Johnson for taking a stand against
>> those
>> >> >> whom
>> >> >> he deems to be in the wrong."
>> >> >> Frankly the operative phrase there is "he deems". Last time I
>> >> checked
>> >> >> Charles was neither a God nor especially intuitive.....let's not
>> >> confuse
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> raging ego and paranoia with intuition. Perhaps it's what you want
>> to
>> >> >> hear
>> >> >> because of your established political beliefs, but it still
>> doesn't
>> >> make
>> >> >> him right.
>> >> >> My personal experience with Charles was quite unpleasant. I found
>> >> him
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> be shockingly narcissistic and idiotic and, frankly I found it
>> >> >> surprising
>> >> >> to say the
least.It certainly didn't live up to the hype.
>> >> >> Now about Mr. McCain....why is it that no one that makes these
>> >> claims
>> >> >> ever links the evidence of it to their "claims"? It's very easy to
>> >> call
>> >> >> someone a racist [sadly] however the actual description of a
>> racist
>> >> is
>> >> >> quite different from what way too many people have been throwing
>> >> around
>> >> >> lately. For instance Charles ,I'm sure, would be considered a
>> racist
>> >> >> merely for disagreeing with Obama....if he ever did.That's all it
>> >> takes
>> >> >> in today's world.....which I find quite disturbing and sad.
>> >> >> It demeans what people have actually suffered under real racism
>> and
>> >> >> instead turns a "sticks and stones" moment into a drama.....a
>> racial
>> >> >> drama. Which is such good cover for some really disturbing and
>> >> dishonest
>> >> >> behavior on the part of our politicians.
>> >> >> Can you honestly say that you would have been comfortable with
>> Bush
>> >> >> using
>> >> >> these same techniques?
>> >> >> Of course not.....no decent person would.
>> >> >> And then you really go off the rails with this comment which I
>> truly
>> >> >> hope
>> >> >> you will reconsider: "I have actually bothered to look into the
>> >> evidence
>> >> >> whereas you have not, and I suspect that you wouldn't care even if
>> >> you
>> >> >> had."
>> >> >> And you are upset with me and/or TFMo for teasing Johnson? You
>> just
>> >> >> accused me [or him] quite unfairly, I might add, of being either a
>> >> >> racist
>> >> >> or a racist sympathizer.
>> >> >> I am a member of the DAR, does this mean that to you I am anti
>> >> British?
>> >> >> Isn't all of this labeling rather silly and pointless in the end?
>> >> >> Charles
>> >> >> has made his bed all by himself, no one forced him to start
>> stabbing
>> >> >> people in the back with whom he formerly enjoyed mutual ties of
>> >> respect.
>> >> >> If his issues with people were actually based on reality and not
>> >> >> political expediency then everyone could and would take him
>> >> seriously.
>> >> >> But as it is they are not...he is merely being a parasite. The old
>> >> dog
>> >> >> died , time to jump on the new one.
>> >> >> And it isn't working in case you haven't noticed.
>> >> >> The old saying that "you sleep with dogs you get fleas" comes to
>> >> mind,
>> >> >> only in this case i would advise you to step away from the carcass
>> >> >> formerly known as LGF before you find yourself wearing a pleather
>> >> >> "biker"
>> >> >> vest with a lizard logo on the back.......
>> >> >> In the end I can say that I follow one important rule and I have
>> >> found
>> >> >> that you really can never go wrong with it: "It's not who is
>> >> >> right...it's
>> >> >> what's right."
>> >> >> Think about that and then examine Charles' behavior...you seem
>> like
>> >> a
>> >> >> decent man and I would be surprised if you did not reconsider your
>> >> >> position.
>> >> >> And as for the art work, I am also an artist and trust me, you
>> just
>> >> >> don't
>> >> >> do that to someone's art.....it's pretty common knowledge.
>> >> >> Regards, Ghost
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ghost-
>> >> >> > I just realized that you're a different person than the fellow
>> who
>> >> did
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > cartoon, as well as a female. Apologies for the mix-up; I've got
>> a
>> >> >> very
>> >> >> disorganized inbox over here.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > At any rate, good luck with your campaign against me. Let me
>> know
>> >> if
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> need any material.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Barrett Brown
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Barrett Brown
>> >> <
barriticus@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Mr. Ghost-
>> >> >> >> Obviously, you have every right to say anything you'd like
>> about
>> >> me,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> you may publish this correspondence as well if you think that
>> my
>> >> act
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> parodying your cartoon constitutes some great crime against art or
>> >> >> civility
>> >> >> >> or whatever it is that you think I am guilty of and are of the
>> >> >> opinion
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> this exchange will help to support whatever contention you're
>> >> trying
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> make. I hope you'll publish the entire exchange, though - if I'm
>> >> truly
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> the wrong, the full context will help your case.
>> >> >> >> But I am truly astonished that you think the act of parodying
>> >> >> someone's
>> >> >> work is some unconventional or evil thing. Let me walk you through
>> >> this
>> >> >> one
>> >> >> >> more time:
>> >> >> >> 1. You did a cartoon making fun of Charles Johnson, which is of
>> >> >> course
>> >> >> your
>> >> >> >> right.
>> >> >> >> 2. I considered the cartoon to be ridiculously unfair and
>> frankly
>> >> >> misleading insomuch as that McCain is very clearly a white
>> >> supremacist
>> >> >> (and
>> >> >> >> not particularly funny insomuch as that it hinges largely on
>> >> Johnson
>> >> >> being,
>> >> >> >> like, a baby who wets his baby diaper).
>> >> >> >> 3. I downloaded a copy of your cartoon and altered it in order
>> to
>> >> >> turn
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> into a parody of the situation.
>> >> >> >> 4. I sent a copy of this parody to you, McCain, and Johnson. I
>> did
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> profit from it or even publish it, although it would be totally
>> legal
>> >> >> for me
>> >> >> >> to have done so thanks to Fair Use - you know, that legal
>> doctrine
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> >> allows you to take the intellectual property of others, such as
>> >> >> Snoopy
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> the Jawas, and employ them in your own ham-fisted attempt at
>> >> satire.
>> >> >> 5.
>> >> >> You went fucking nuts.
>> >> >> >> Regarding Johnson and McCain - I admire Johnson for taking a
>> stand
>> >> >> against
>> >> >> >> those whom he deems to be in the wrong. McCain is clearly in
>> the
>> >> >> wrong
>> >> >> -
>> >> >> >> that he wrote for a white supremacist outlet and posted links
>> to
>> >> the
>> >> >> neo-Nazi site
overthrow.com, for instance, constitutes pretty
>> clear
>> >> >> evidence that he is himself a racist. All of the stuff he wrote in
>> >> >> defense
>> >> >> >> of slavery doesn't really help much, either. There is, in
>> >> addition,
>> >> >> another
>> >> >> >> incident that I have recently discovered and will be revealing
>> >> soon,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> which goes beyond simply holding distasteful opinions. Suffice
>> to
>> >> say
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> am in a better position than you are to characterize the fellow
>> >> >> insomuch
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> that I have actually bothered to look into the evidence whereas
>> >> you
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> not, and I suspect that you wouldn't care even if you had. At
>> any
>> >> >> rate,
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> take responsibility for the charges I make, as I make these
>> >> charges
>> >> >> under my
>> >> >> >> own name and expose myself to the consequences. You do not.
>> >> >> >> People such as yourself are not interested in getting things
>> >> right;
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> interested in getting things done.
>> >> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> >> Barrett Brown
>> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, <
ghost@christmasghost.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> Barrett,
>> >> >> >>> I realize that you are not an artist, so perhaps
>> you
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> >>> have no way of knowing that you just don't take someone's
>> >> >> >>> artwork and deface it...virtually or otherwise.
>> >> >> >>> It's just not done.
>> >> >> >>> Or at the very least, if you feel you must do it, be funny
>> about
>> >> it.
>> >> >> Your
>> >> >> >>> "parody" was pathetic attempt to carry water for a vile and
>> >> >> disgusting
>> >> >> little man who wouldn't know the meaning of honesty or decency if
>> it
>> >> >> jumped up and bit him in the ass. And it made me very curious; why
>> >> >> you,
>> >> >> >>> of
>> >> >> >>> all people, would you waste your time and energy carrying
>> water
>> >> for
>> >> >> Mad
>> >> >> >>> King Charles is beyond me.
>> >> >> >>> Surely the monetary problems at HuffPo would be a more
>> pressing
>> >> >> issue?
>> >> >> >>> Or perhaps you could advance your own career by doing some
>> >> >> >>> investigative
>> >> >> >>> journalism and expose the corruption that is right under your
>> own
>> >> >> nose....
>> >> >> >>> ACORN ring any bells for you?
>> >> >> >>> Journalists like you give the profession a very bad name, and
>> >> >> people
>> >> >> >>> are
>> >> >> >>> going to remember this...all of it. People like myself will
>> make
>> >> >> sure
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> >>> that, and it won't be a difficult job. I realize that since
>> you
>> >> >> weren't
>> >> >> >>> even aware of how crass it is to defile someone's
>> artwork,perhaps
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> also aren't aware of the huge backlash that is coming your way....
>> >> >> >>> Perhaps you should spend a little more time worrying about
>> your
>> >> own
>> >> >> >>> career and less about carrying water for a certifiable idiot.
>> >> >> >>> Just a thought....
>> >> >> >>> Fondly, Ghost
>> >> >> >>> Howdy!
>> >> >> >>> > I liked your recent comic strip, but thought the text could
>> use
>> >> a
>> >> >> little-reworking. I've attached my version here.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Regards,
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Barrett Brown
>> >> >> >>> > Brooklyn, NY
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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