| Subject: Re: Your Comic on Charles Johnson |
| From: ghost@christmasghost.com |
| Date: 10/24/09, 15:03 |
| To: "Barrett Brown" <barriticus@gmail.com> |
Barrett,
Read number five yourself and realize that NO ONE ever reads any
of your articles.
I am not trying to be cold here, but you have obviously gravitated
towards Mad King Charles for a reason....you both used to be well
respected and now you have been diminished by your own raging egos and,
frankly,lack of talent.
Not lack of talent on your part that I know of....I haven't read your
articles yet... but the emails leave a lot to be desired. Frankly, this
is why chuckles doesn't have any readers anymore...the arrogance...and
you seem to have 'caught' it.
And I am sorry about that, but really, you asked for the cold hard truth
with your constant whining.
#6 and #7 just show what an obnoxious ass you can be...congratulations
and here I was trying to be nice.
#8, #9 and #10 just scream arrogant pompous ass....hey I may have
diagnosed your lack of readership problem.
And this?
"So, there you go. Just click one of those links, take a look at one of
these
articles that you've already implicitly characterized as not containing
links to evidence of McCain's racism, and then take a look at the links to
evidence of McCain's racism. Meanwhile, I'm going to go kill myself."
Okay, if I were you I wouldn't go and "kill myself" just yet....I don't
think you want to shuffle off this mortal coil before you figure out how
to actually link something....you know, that someone can actually just
click on.....
Now I am going to "cut and paste" to read your articles and I promise I
will get back to you....but remember if you kill yourself you won't be
able to argue with me about the content of your articles....and really is
"Charles the Nutbag" worth that?
Nahhhhh.......
Keep breathing, Ghost
Ghost-
Let me try to explain this in a different way:
1. You claimed that no one ever links to the evidence of McCain's racism
when they accuse him of being a racist.
2. I asked you to point out an example of an article in which I have
accused
McCain of being a racist without also linking to evidence of his racism.
3. You said that this would be fine, but then you asked me for a link.
4. It would seem that you haven't read my articles on McCain and say that
you are to busy to "find" them, which is fine.
5. If you haven't read my articles on McCain, then you obviously have no
way
of knowing that no one ever links to evidence of his racism, since I may
very well have linked to evidence of his racism in the articles you didn't
read. So, you're making a claim about something that you can't verify.
6. Read number five again.
7. One more time.
8. Imagine I have several houses. You say to me, "Why is it that no one
paints the inside their houses blue?" I reply, "Well, you can go in one of
my houses and see for yourself that, in fact, the insides of all of my
houses are painted blue." You reply, "I'm too busy to go look inside these
houses because I'm a corporate strategist." Do you see how that might be
silly? Here you are, claiming that none of my houses are blue on the
inside,
and yet you haven't really been inside any of my houses to verify this.
All
you'd have to do is go into one house to see that the walls inside are
blue,
and the very blueness of these walls in this one house should tell you
that,
contrary to your claim that none of the houses are painted blue inside, at
least one is. And then later I could show all the houses and you would
find
that they are all blue on the inside - which is to say, again, that you
were not only wrong about none of them being blue on the inside, but also
extra wrong insomuch as that they are all blue.
9. I'm trying to think of an even simpler way to explain this but I can't.
Anyway, the houses are my articles on Stacy McCain and blue interiors
constitute links to evidence of his racism.
10. Still, let's do it your way. Below you will find links to a couple of
my
articles on McCain. You will notice that each of these articles includes
links to evidence that McCain is a racist. Now, if you see even one link
to
evidence of McCain's racism in one of these articles in which I assert
that
McCain is a racist, that means you are wrong about no one ever linking to
evidence of McCain's racism in articles in which it is asserted that
McCain
is a racist, wouldn't it? And if you were to see a whole bunch of links to
evidence of his racism in a whole bunch of these articles, it would mean
that you were very, very wrong.
http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/18/mccain-composes-non-defense-of-his-blatant-racism/
http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/17/a-wild-mccain-appears/
http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/13/robert-stacy-mccain-white-supremacist-weirdo/
So, there you go. Just click one of those links, take a look at one of
these
articles that you've already implicitly characterized as not containing
links to evidence of McCain's racism, and then take a look at the links to
evidence of McCain's racism. Meanwhile, I'm going to go kill myself.
Regards,
Barrett Brown
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:10 AM, <ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
Barrett,
Good grief! A snipe hunt?
Please, I am a little too busy to find random articles that you have
written...I am a corporate strategist in my "spare" time. If you have
the
link and do want to have a productive discussion then please just
provide
the link.
Regards, Ghost
Ghost-
You might want to try reading my last e-mail again. I'm asking you to
prove
your assertion that no one links to the evidence of McCain's racism
when
they claim that McCain is a racist. To do this, you'll need to go
through
the articles I've written on McCain, find one that doesn't link to
evidence
of his racism, and then send me that link. Good luck!
Expectingly Yours,
Barrett Brown
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:08 AM, <ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
Barrett,
Of course I would have no problem with it...where is it?
Link please....
Regards, Ghost
Ghost-
You ask, "why is it that no one that makes these claims ever links
the
evidence of it to their "claims"?"
If someone makes a claim about another person without linking to
supporting
evidence, then that someone has done a terrible and irresponsible
thing
indeed. So, since you yourself are claiming that I don't link to
evidence
of
my claims regarding McCain when I write about him, you should have
no
problem linking to an article I've written on McCain that does not
include
a
link to evidence of his racism.
I look forward to your prompt and successful citation.
Regards,
Barrett Brown
Brooklyn, NY
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
Barrett,
No problems, I understood the minute I saw the "Mr.Ghost"
that
there was merely a misunderstanding.I too have a very disorganized
inbox
thanks to 'to much to do' as I'm sure you are experiencing also.
Frankly I am surprised that an accomplished man such as yourself
would
say, to quote you, "I admire Johnson for taking a stand against
those
whom
he deems to be in the wrong."
Frankly the operative phrase there is "he deems". Last time I
checked
Charles was neither a God nor especially intuitive.....let's not
confuse
a
raging ego and paranoia with intuition. Perhaps it's what you want
to
hear
because of your established political beliefs, but it still
doesn't
make
him right.
My personal experience with Charles was quite unpleasant. I found
him
to
be shockingly narcissistic and idiotic and, frankly I found it
surprising
to say the least.It certainly didn't live up to the hype.
Now about Mr. McCain....why is it that no one that makes these
claims
ever links the evidence of it to their "claims"? It's very easy to
call
someone a racist [sadly] however the actual description of a
racist
is
quite different from what way too many people have been throwing
around
lately. For instance Charles ,I'm sure, would be considered a
racist
merely for disagreeing with Obama....if he ever did.That's all it
takes
in today's world.....which I find quite disturbing and sad.
It demeans what people have actually suffered under real racism
and
instead turns a "sticks and stones" moment into a drama.....a
racial
drama. Which is such good cover for some really disturbing and
dishonest
behavior on the part of our politicians.
Can you honestly say that you would have been comfortable with
Bush
using
these same techniques?
Of course not.....no decent person would.
And then you really go off the rails with this comment which I
truly
hope
you will reconsider: "I have actually bothered to look into the
evidence
whereas you have not, and I suspect that you wouldn't care even if
you
had."
And you are upset with me and/or TFMo for teasing Johnson? You
just
accused me [or him] quite unfairly, I might add, of being either a
racist
or a racist sympathizer.
I am a member of the DAR, does this mean that to you I am anti
British?
Isn't all of this labeling rather silly and pointless in the end?
Charles
has made his bed all by himself, no one forced him to start
stabbing
people in the back with whom he formerly enjoyed mutual ties of
respect.
If his issues with people were actually based on reality and not
political expediency then everyone could and would take him
seriously.
But as it is they are not...he is merely being a parasite. The old
dog
died , time to jump on the new one.
And it isn't working in case you haven't noticed.
The old saying that "you sleep with dogs you get fleas" comes to
mind,
only in this case i would advise you to step away from the carcass
formerly known as LGF before you find yourself wearing a pleather
"biker"
vest with a lizard logo on the back.......
In the end I can say that I follow one important rule and I have
found
that you really can never go wrong with it: "It's not who is
right...it's
what's right."
Think about that and then examine Charles' behavior...you seem
like
a
decent man and I would be surprised if you did not reconsider your
position.
And as for the art work, I am also an artist and trust me, you
just
don't
do that to someone's art.....it's pretty common knowledge.
Regards, Ghost
Ghost-
I just realized that you're a different person than the fellow
who
did
the
cartoon, as well as a female. Apologies for the mix-up; I've got
a
very
disorganized inbox over here.
At any rate, good luck with your campaign against me. Let me
know
if
you
need any material.
Thanks,
Barrett Brown
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Barrett Brown
<barriticus@gmail.com>
wrote:
Mr. Ghost-
Obviously, you have every right to say anything you'd like
about
me,
and
you may publish this correspondence as well if you think that
my
act
of
parodying your cartoon constitutes some great crime against art or
civility
or whatever it is that you think I am guilty of and are of the
opinion
that
this exchange will help to support whatever contention you're
trying
to
make. I hope you'll publish the entire exchange, though - if I'm
truly
in
the wrong, the full context will help your case.
But I am truly astonished that you think the act of parodying
someone's
work is some unconventional or evil thing. Let me walk you through
this
one
more time:
1. You did a cartoon making fun of Charles Johnson, which is of
course
your
right.
2. I considered the cartoon to be ridiculously unfair and
frankly
misleading insomuch as that McCain is very clearly a white
supremacist
(and
not particularly funny insomuch as that it hinges largely on
Johnson
being,
like, a baby who wets his baby diaper).
3. I downloaded a copy of your cartoon and altered it in order
to
turn
it
into a parody of the situation.
4. I sent a copy of this parody to you, McCain, and Johnson. I
did
not
profit from it or even publish it, although it would be totally
legal
for me
to have done so thanks to Fair Use - you know, that legal
doctrine
which
allows you to take the intellectual property of others, such as
Snoopy
and
the Jawas, and employ them in your own ham-fisted attempt at
satire.
5.
You went fucking nuts.
Regarding Johnson and McCain - I admire Johnson for taking a
stand
against
those whom he deems to be in the wrong. McCain is clearly in
the
wrong
-
that he wrote for a white supremacist outlet and posted links
to
the
neo-Nazi site overthrow.com, for instance, constitutes pretty
clear
evidence that he is himself a racist. All of the stuff he wrote in
defense
of slavery doesn't really help much, either. There is, in
addition,
another
incident that I have recently discovered and will be revealing
soon,
and
which goes beyond simply holding distasteful opinions. Suffice
to
say
that
am in a better position than you are to characterize the fellow
insomuch
as
that I have actually bothered to look into the evidence whereas
you
have
not, and I suspect that you wouldn't care even if you had. At
any
rate,
I
take responsibility for the charges I make, as I make these
charges
under my
own name and expose myself to the consequences. You do not.
People such as yourself are not interested in getting things
right;
you
are
interested in getting things done.
Regards,
Barrett Brown
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, <ghost@christmasghost.com>
wrote:
Barrett,
I realize that you are not an artist, so perhaps
you
would
have no way of knowing that you just don't take someone's
artwork and deface it...virtually or otherwise.
It's just not done.
Or at the very least, if you feel you must do it, be funny
about
it.
Your
"parody" was pathetic attempt to carry water for a vile and
disgusting
little man who wouldn't know the meaning of honesty or decency if
it
jumped up and bit him in the ass. And it made me very curious; why
you,
of
all people, would you waste your time and energy carrying
water
for
Mad
King Charles is beyond me.
Surely the monetary problems at HuffPo would be a more
pressing
issue?
Or perhaps you could advance your own career by doing some
investigative
journalism and expose the corruption that is right under your
own
nose....
ACORN ring any bells for you?
Journalists like you give the profession a very bad name, and
people
are
going to remember this...all of it. People like myself will
make
sure
of
that, and it won't be a difficult job. I realize that since
you
weren't
even aware of how crass it is to defile someone's
artwork,perhaps
you
also aren't aware of the huge backlash that is coming your way....
Perhaps you should spend a little more time worrying about
your
own
career and less about carrying water for a certifiable idiot.
Just a thought....
Fondly, Ghost
Howdy!
I liked your recent comic strip, but thought the text could
use
a
little-reworking. I've attached my version here.
Regards,
Barrett Brown
Brooklyn, NY