Re: Your Comic on Charles Johnson
Subject: Re: Your Comic on Charles Johnson
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
Date: 10/24/09, 01:10
To: Charles Johnson <charles@littlegreenfootballs.com>

I'm getting the impression that this is going to get even more hilarious very soon:

http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/24/in-which-i-try-my-hand-at-cartooning-and-piss-off-this-fellow/

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Charles Johnson <charles@littlegreenfootballs.com> wrote:
Freaking hilarious! Maybe she's drunk?

CJ




On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Barrett Brown wrote:

No, no, the point is that this person asserted that no one links to evidence of McCain's racism when they attack him for being a racist; I asked her to in turn link to any piece I've written that doesn't link to such evidence; and just now got the reply directly below in which the person seems to have missed the point and is now asking me for the link. 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <ghost@christmasghost.com>
Date: Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: Your Comic on Charles Johnson
To: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>


 Barrett,
         Of course I would have no problem with it...where is it?
 Link please....
                     Regards, Ghost




 Ghost-
>
> You ask, "why is it that no one that makes these claims ever links the
> evidence of it to their "claims"?"
>
> If someone makes a claim about another person without linking to
> supporting
> evidence, then that someone has done a terrible and irresponsible thing
> indeed. So, since you yourself are claiming that I don't link to evidence
> of
> my claims regarding McCain when I write about him, you should have no
> problem linking to an article I've written on McCain that does not include
> a
> link to evidence of his racism.
>
> I look forward to your prompt and successful citation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Barrett Brown
> Brooklyn, NY
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
>
>>  Barrett,
>>        No problems, I understood the minute I saw the "Mr.Ghost" that
>> there was merely a misunderstanding.I too have a very disorganized inbox
>> thanks to 'to much to do' as I'm sure you are experiencing also.
>>  Frankly I am surprised that an accomplished man such as yourself would
>> say, to quote you, "I admire Johnson for taking a stand against those
>> whom
>> he deems to be in the wrong."
>>  Frankly the operative phrase there is "he deems". Last time I checked
>> Charles was neither a God nor especially intuitive.....let's not confuse
>> a
>> raging ego and paranoia with intuition. Perhaps it's what you want to
>> hear
>> because of your established political beliefs, but it still doesn't make
>> him right.
>>  My personal experience with Charles was quite unpleasant. I found him
>> to
>> be shockingly narcissistic and idiotic and, frankly I found it
>> surprising
>> to say the least.It certainly didn't live up to the hype.
>>  Now about Mr. McCain....why is it that no one that makes these claims
>> ever links the evidence of it to their "claims"? It's very easy to call
>> someone a racist [sadly] however the actual description of a racist is
>> quite different from what way too many people have been throwing around
>> lately. For instance Charles ,I'm sure, would be considered a racist
>> merely for disagreeing with Obama....if he ever did.That's all it takes
>> in today's world.....which I find quite disturbing and sad.
>>  It demeans what people have actually suffered under real racism and
>> instead turns a "sticks and stones" moment into a drama.....a racial
>> drama. Which is such good cover for some really disturbing and dishonest
>> behavior on the part of our politicians.
>>  Can you honestly say that you would have been comfortable with Bush
>> using
>> these same techniques?
>>  Of course not.....no decent person would.
>>  And then you really go off the rails with this comment which I truly
>> hope
>> you will reconsider: "I have actually bothered to look into the evidence
>> whereas you have not, and I suspect that you wouldn't care even if you
>> had."
>>  And you are upset with me and/or TFMo for teasing Johnson? You just
>> accused me [or him] quite unfairly, I might add, of being either a
>> racist
>> or a racist sympathizer.
>>  I am a member of the DAR, does this mean that to you I am anti British?
>>  Isn't all of this labeling rather silly and pointless in the end?
>> Charles
>> has made his bed all by himself, no one forced him to start stabbing
>> people in the back with whom he formerly enjoyed mutual ties of respect.
>> If his issues with people were actually based on reality and not
>> political expediency then everyone could and would take him seriously.
>> But as it is they are not...he is merely being a parasite. The old dog
>> died , time to jump on the new one.
>>  And it isn't working in case you haven't noticed.
>>  The old saying that "you sleep with dogs you get fleas" comes to mind,
>> only in this case i would advise you to step away from the carcass
>> formerly known as LGF before you find yourself wearing a pleather
>> "biker"
>> vest with a lizard logo on the back.......
>>  In the end I can say that I follow one important rule and I have found
>> that you really can never go wrong with it: "It's not who is
>> right...it's
>> what's right."
>>  Think about that and then examine Charles' behavior...you seem like a
>> decent man and I would be surprised if you did not reconsider your
>> position.
>>  And as for the art work, I am also an artist and trust me, you just
>> don't
>> do that to someone's art.....it's pretty common knowledge.
>>                                  Regards, Ghost
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Ghost-
>> > I just realized that you're a different person than the fellow who did
>> the
>> > cartoon, as well as a female. Apologies for the mix-up; I've got a
>> very
>> disorganized inbox over here.
>> >
>> > At any rate, good luck with your campaign against me. Let me know if
>> you
>> need any material.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Barrett Brown
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mr. Ghost-
>> >> Obviously, you have every right to say anything you'd like about me,
>> and
>> >> you may publish this correspondence as well if you think that my act
>> of
>> parodying your cartoon constitutes some great crime against art or
>> civility
>> >> or whatever it is that you think I am guilty of and are of the
>> opinion
>> that
>> >> this exchange will help to support whatever contention you're trying
>> to
>> make. I hope you'll publish the entire exchange, though - if I'm truly
>> in
>> >> the wrong, the full context will help your case.
>> >> But I am truly astonished that you think the act of parodying
>> someone's
>> work is some unconventional or evil thing. Let me walk you through this
>> one
>> >> more time:
>> >> 1. You did a cartoon making fun of Charles Johnson, which is of
>> course
>> your
>> >> right.
>> >> 2. I considered the cartoon to be ridiculously unfair and frankly
>> misleading insomuch as that McCain is very clearly a white supremacist
>> (and
>> >> not particularly funny insomuch as that it hinges largely on Johnson
>> being,
>> >> like, a baby who wets his baby diaper).
>> >> 3. I downloaded a copy of your cartoon and altered it in order to
>> turn
>> it
>> >> into a parody of the situation.
>> >> 4. I sent a copy of this parody to you, McCain, and Johnson. I did
>> not
>> profit from it or even publish it, although it would be totally legal
>> for me
>> >> to have done so thanks to Fair Use - you know, that legal doctrine
>> which
>> >> allows you to take the intellectual property of others, such as
>> Snoopy
>> and
>> >> the Jawas, and employ them in your own ham-fisted attempt at satire.
>> 5.
>> You went fucking nuts.
>> >> Regarding Johnson and McCain - I admire Johnson for taking a stand
>> against
>> >> those whom he deems to be in the wrong. McCain is clearly in the
>> wrong
>> -
>> >> that he wrote for a white supremacist outlet and posted links to the
>> neo-Nazi site overthrow.com, for instance, constitutes pretty clear
>> evidence that he is himself a racist. All of the stuff he wrote in
>> defense
>> >> of slavery doesn't really help much, either. There is, in addition,
>> another
>> >> incident that I have recently discovered and will be revealing soon,
>> and
>> >> which goes beyond simply holding distasteful opinions. Suffice to say
>> that
>> >> am in a better position than you are to characterize the fellow
>> insomuch
>> >> as
>> >> that I have actually bothered to look into the evidence whereas you
>> have
>> >> not, and I suspect that you wouldn't care even if you had. At any
>> rate,
>> I
>> >> take responsibility for the charges I make, as I make these charges
>> under my
>> >> own name and expose myself to the consequences. You do not.
>> >> People such as yourself are not interested in getting things right;
>> you
>> are
>> >> interested in getting things done.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Barrett Brown
>> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, <ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
>> >>>  Barrett,
>> >>>            I realize that you are not an artist, so perhaps you
>> would
>> >>> have no way of knowing that you just don't take someone's
>> >>> artwork and deface it...virtually or otherwise.
>> >>>  It's just not done.
>> >>> Or at the very least, if you feel you must do it, be funny about it.
>> Your
>> >>> "parody" was pathetic attempt to carry water for a vile and
>> disgusting
>> little man who wouldn't know the meaning of honesty or decency if it
>> jumped up and bit him in the ass. And it made me very curious; why
>> you,
>> >>> of
>> >>> all people, would you waste your time and energy carrying water for
>> Mad
>> >>> King Charles is beyond me.
>> >>>  Surely the monetary problems at HuffPo would be a more pressing
>> issue?
>> >>>  Or perhaps you could advance your own career by doing some
>> >>> investigative
>> >>> journalism and expose the corruption that is right under your own
>> nose....
>> >>>  ACORN ring any bells for you?
>> >>>  Journalists like you give the profession a very bad name, and
>> people
>> >>> are
>> >>> going to remember this...all of it. People like myself will make
>> sure
>> of
>> >>> that, and it won't be a difficult job. I realize that since you
>> weren't
>> >>> even aware of how crass it is to defile someone's artwork,perhaps
>> you
>> also aren't aware of the huge backlash that is coming your way....
>> >>>  Perhaps you should spend a little more time worrying about your own
>> >>> career and less about carrying water for a certifiable idiot.
>> >>>  Just a thought....
>> >>>                        Fondly, Ghost
>> >>>  Howdy!
>> >>> > I liked your recent comic strip, but thought the text could use a
>> little-reworking. I've attached my version here.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Regards,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Barrett Brown
>> >>> > Brooklyn, NY
>> >>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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