Re: Your Comic on Charles Johnson
Subject: Re: Your Comic on Charles Johnson
From: Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
Date: 10/24/09, 00:26
To: ghost@christmasghost.com

Ghost-

You might want to try reading my last e-mail again. I'm asking you to prove your assertion that no one links to the evidence of McCain's racism when they claim that McCain is a racist. To do this, you'll need to go through the articles I've written on McCain, find one that doesn't link to evidence of his racism, and then send me that link. Good luck!

Expectingly Yours,

Barrett Brown

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:08 AM, <ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
 Barrett,
         Of course I would have no problem with it...where is it?
 Link please....
                     Regards, Ghost




 Ghost-
>
> You ask, "why is it that no one that makes these claims ever links the
> evidence of it to their "claims"?"
>
> If someone makes a claim about another person without linking to
> supporting
> evidence, then that someone has done a terrible and irresponsible thing
> indeed. So, since you yourself are claiming that I don't link to evidence
> of
> my claims regarding McCain when I write about him, you should have no
> problem linking to an article I've written on McCain that does not include
> a
> link to evidence of his racism.
>
> I look forward to your prompt and successful citation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Barrett Brown
> Brooklyn, NY
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
>
>>  Barrett,
>>        No problems, I understood the minute I saw the "Mr.Ghost" that
>> there was merely a misunderstanding.I too have a very disorganized inbox
>> thanks to 'to much to do' as I'm sure you are experiencing also.
>>  Frankly I am surprised that an accomplished man such as yourself would
>> say, to quote you, "I admire Johnson for taking a stand against those
>> whom
>> he deems to be in the wrong."
>>  Frankly the operative phrase there is "he deems". Last time I checked
>> Charles was neither a God nor especially intuitive.....let's not confuse
>> a
>> raging ego and paranoia with intuition. Perhaps it's what you want to
>> hear
>> because of your established political beliefs, but it still doesn't make
>> him right.
>>  My personal experience with Charles was quite unpleasant. I found him
>> to
>> be shockingly narcissistic and idiotic and, frankly I found it
>> surprising
>> to say the least.It certainly didn't live up to the hype.
>>  Now about Mr. McCain....why is it that no one that makes these claims
>> ever links the evidence of it to their "claims"? It's very easy to call
>> someone a racist [sadly] however the actual description of a racist is
>> quite different from what way too many people have been throwing around
>> lately. For instance Charles ,I'm sure, would be considered a racist
>> merely for disagreeing with Obama....if he ever did.That's all it takes
>> in today's world.....which I find quite disturbing and sad.
>>  It demeans what people have actually suffered under real racism and
>> instead turns a "sticks and stones" moment into a drama.....a racial
>> drama. Which is such good cover for some really disturbing and dishonest
>> behavior on the part of our politicians.
>>  Can you honestly say that you would have been comfortable with Bush
>> using
>> these same techniques?
>>  Of course not.....no decent person would.
>>  And then you really go off the rails with this comment which I truly
>> hope
>> you will reconsider: "I have actually bothered to look into the evidence
>> whereas you have not, and I suspect that you wouldn't care even if you
>> had."
>>  And you are upset with me and/or TFMo for teasing Johnson? You just
>> accused me [or him] quite unfairly, I might add, of being either a
>> racist
>> or a racist sympathizer.
>>  I am a member of the DAR, does this mean that to you I am anti British?
>>  Isn't all of this labeling rather silly and pointless in the end?
>> Charles
>> has made his bed all by himself, no one forced him to start stabbing
>> people in the back with whom he formerly enjoyed mutual ties of respect.
>> If his issues with people were actually based on reality and not
>> political expediency then everyone could and would take him seriously.
>> But as it is they are not...he is merely being a parasite. The old dog
>> died , time to jump on the new one.
>>  And it isn't working in case you haven't noticed.
>>  The old saying that "you sleep with dogs you get fleas" comes to mind,
>> only in this case i would advise you to step away from the carcass
>> formerly known as LGF before you find yourself wearing a pleather
>> "biker"
>> vest with a lizard logo on the back.......
>>  In the end I can say that I follow one important rule and I have found
>> that you really can never go wrong with it: "It's not who is
>> right...it's
>> what's right."
>>  Think about that and then examine Charles' behavior...you seem like a
>> decent man and I would be surprised if you did not reconsider your
>> position.
>>  And as for the art work, I am also an artist and trust me, you just
>> don't
>> do that to someone's art.....it's pretty common knowledge.
>>                                  Regards, Ghost
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Ghost-
>> > I just realized that you're a different person than the fellow who did
>> the
>> > cartoon, as well as a female. Apologies for the mix-up; I've got a
>> very
>> disorganized inbox over here.
>> >
>> > At any rate, good luck with your campaign against me. Let me know if
>> you
>> need any material.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Barrett Brown
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Barrett Brown <barriticus@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mr. Ghost-
>> >> Obviously, you have every right to say anything you'd like about me,
>> and
>> >> you may publish this correspondence as well if you think that my act
>> of
>> parodying your cartoon constitutes some great crime against art or
>> civility
>> >> or whatever it is that you think I am guilty of and are of the
>> opinion
>> that
>> >> this exchange will help to support whatever contention you're trying
>> to
>> make. I hope you'll publish the entire exchange, though - if I'm truly
>> in
>> >> the wrong, the full context will help your case.
>> >> But I am truly astonished that you think the act of parodying
>> someone's
>> work is some unconventional or evil thing. Let me walk you through this
>> one
>> >> more time:
>> >> 1. You did a cartoon making fun of Charles Johnson, which is of
>> course
>> your
>> >> right.
>> >> 2. I considered the cartoon to be ridiculously unfair and frankly
>> misleading insomuch as that McCain is very clearly a white supremacist
>> (and
>> >> not particularly funny insomuch as that it hinges largely on Johnson
>> being,
>> >> like, a baby who wets his baby diaper).
>> >> 3. I downloaded a copy of your cartoon and altered it in order to
>> turn
>> it
>> >> into a parody of the situation.
>> >> 4. I sent a copy of this parody to you, McCain, and Johnson. I did
>> not
>> profit from it or even publish it, although it would be totally legal
>> for me
>> >> to have done so thanks to Fair Use - you know, that legal doctrine
>> which
>> >> allows you to take the intellectual property of others, such as
>> Snoopy
>> and
>> >> the Jawas, and employ them in your own ham-fisted attempt at satire.
>> 5.
>> You went fucking nuts.
>> >> Regarding Johnson and McCain - I admire Johnson for taking a stand
>> against
>> >> those whom he deems to be in the wrong. McCain is clearly in the
>> wrong
>> -
>> >> that he wrote for a white supremacist outlet and posted links to the
>> neo-Nazi site overthrow.com, for instance, constitutes pretty clear
>> evidence that he is himself a racist. All of the stuff he wrote in
>> defense
>> >> of slavery doesn't really help much, either. There is, in addition,
>> another
>> >> incident that I have recently discovered and will be revealing soon,
>> and
>> >> which goes beyond simply holding distasteful opinions. Suffice to say
>> that
>> >> am in a better position than you are to characterize the fellow
>> insomuch
>> >> as
>> >> that I have actually bothered to look into the evidence whereas you
>> have
>> >> not, and I suspect that you wouldn't care even if you had. At any
>> rate,
>> I
>> >> take responsibility for the charges I make, as I make these charges
>> under my
>> >> own name and expose myself to the consequences. You do not.
>> >> People such as yourself are not interested in getting things right;
>> you
>> are
>> >> interested in getting things done.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Barrett Brown
>> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, <ghost@christmasghost.com> wrote:
>> >>>  Barrett,
>> >>>            I realize that you are not an artist, so perhaps you
>> would
>> >>> have no way of knowing that you just don't take someone's
>> >>> artwork and deface it...virtually or otherwise.
>> >>>  It's just not done.
>> >>> Or at the very least, if you feel you must do it, be funny about it.
>> Your
>> >>> "parody" was pathetic attempt to carry water for a vile and
>> disgusting
>> little man who wouldn't know the meaning of honesty or decency if it
>> jumped up and bit him in the ass. And it made me very curious; why
>> you,
>> >>> of
>> >>> all people, would you waste your time and energy carrying water for
>> Mad
>> >>> King Charles is beyond me.
>> >>>  Surely the monetary problems at HuffPo would be a more pressing
>> issue?
>> >>>  Or perhaps you could advance your own career by doing some
>> >>> investigative
>> >>> journalism and expose the corruption that is right under your own
>> nose....
>> >>>  ACORN ring any bells for you?
>> >>>  Journalists like you give the profession a very bad name, and
>> people
>> >>> are
>> >>> going to remember this...all of it. People like myself will make
>> sure
>> of
>> >>> that, and it won't be a difficult job. I realize that since you
>> weren't
>> >>> even aware of how crass it is to defile someone's artwork,perhaps
>> you
>> also aren't aware of the huge backlash that is coming your way....
>> >>>  Perhaps you should spend a little more time worrying about your own
>> >>> career and less about carrying water for a certifiable idiot.
>> >>>  Just a thought....
>> >>>                        Fondly, Ghost
>> >>>  Howdy!
>> >>> > I liked your recent comic strip, but thought the text could use a
>> little-reworking. I've attached my version here.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Regards,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Barrett Brown
>> >>> > Brooklyn, NY
>> >>> >
>> >
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