Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 5:44 PM
Rich-
You just don't know when to quit, sir.
Here's the rest of the story for those of you who might
actually still be
considering working for a guy who's already begun lying
to you before you've
even signed a contract. Note that the following information
is not covered
by the NDA; this is all data that only need be pieced
together from public
records and five minutes on Google.
"Loan Saver," which will allegedly be in the
business of performing a
wonderful public service for the nation's homeowners by
way of educational
materials, is being represented by Mr. Preisig's friend
Kyle Vonder Hulls,
who also just happens to be involved with Aspen Merchant
Capital, which is a
parent company to New York Capital Funding, which is itself
based in the
same office as Aspen Merchant Capital. Hilariously enough,
the "educational"
firm that will be advising people on matters pertaining to
unusually-structured loans will be run by the very same
folks who also want
to provide people with unusually-structured loans - and, of
course, the guy
who'll be in charge of all this swell, free, and
spiritually-motivated civic
altruism, Rich Preisig, also just happens to have been
barred from brokering
or even working with brokers by the SEC because he had an
unfortunate
tendency to trick people out of their money after first
gaining their trust.
But Rich Preisig wants you to ignore all of that because,
you see, he's
married now, and he wants to start a family, and plus
he's managed to reach
the ripe old age of 38 without having walked into traffic
or blown himself
up trying to reprogram his VCR.
So, there you have it, guys. That's the job you're
being asked to sign up
for.
Thanks,
Barrett Brown
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Rich Preisig
<rich@loansaver.com> wrote:
Thank you for your thoughts Barrett. I wish you well
and ask that you
move on.
We also regret that, although you were the
"first" to sign and send back
the NDA, we're going to have to pass.
Ps. I'll be sure to work on my grammar and
punctuation skills, but not now,
there's a lot to do. J
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*From:* Barrett Brown [mailto:barriticus@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:58 PM
*To:* Rich Preisig
*Cc:* Kyle Vonder Hulls; lerlanger@nyc.rr.com;
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markmy@earthlink.net;
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amarjerome@gmail.com;
brian_benjamin@yahoo.com; evangelistpenny@aol.com;
mingyang.liu@gmail.com;
citizenck@gmail.com; mintzword4@aol.com;
niceavila@yahoo.com;
lirisaredins@yahoo.ca; harmon.katherine@gmail.com;
whereisbrittneyj@gmail.com; hfmbears@aol.com;
carlin.galietti@gmail.com;
createworks@mindspring.com; prof@doctor.cnc.net;
rv@charter.net;
sfgators96@yahoo.com; apps@aspenmerchantcapital.com
*Subject:* Re: Freelance Writers Needed
Comrade Preisig-
I sincerely apologize if I've hurt your feelings.
I shouldn't have spoken
out like that without having first gotten your side of
the story. So, let's
get that side of the story, shall we?
1. You note that you tried to take responsibility for
your actions by
"accepting a bar from the securities
industry," and you seem to imply that
this proves something about how you learned your
lesson or reached a higher
plane of spiritual understanding or something to that
effect. Is that not a
strange point to make, seeing as how a bar from the
securities industry
isn't something that you choose to
"accept," but rather an utterly
involuntary punishment that I suppose you could have
tried to appeal were it
not for the fact that the SEC had a pretty damned
strong case against you?
2. In reference to the above point, why would anyone
want to work with
someone who was too dishonest for the securities
industry?
3. In reference to your second paragraph, how does
anyone reach the age of
38 in a developed country without knowing when it is
appropriate to
capitalize words and when it is not appropriate at
all?
4. In reference to your assertion that
"LoanSaver.com exemplifies [your]
growing concern and immediate need to 'Educate and
Protect' [sic] the
'Homeowners of America' [sic]," why do I
get the impression that the
education in question will involve educating people
about what a great idea
it is to do business with your other firm, Aspen
Merchant Capital, or some
other nifty little boiler room you've got set up
in Florida or some such
place? Is it because I'm not retarded?
5. Which part of my last e-mail was
"drivel"?
6. How did you managed to get "humbled" by
writing an e-mail that also
accuses someone else of "vitriolic drivel"?
Is it because you figured out
towards the end that your e-mail is full of
non-sequitors and dime-store New
Age nonsense? Were you high when you wrote it?
7. Do you expect to actually make some good money off
of this scam? If so,
I take back everything I wrote. Let's do business!
8. Just kidding.
9. Congrats on the marriage.
With sincerest regards and visions of the dawning of
the Age of Aquarius,
Barrett Brown
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Rich Preisig
<rich@loansaver.com> wrote:
Dear Barrett, Dennis, et al
While my history is no secret, it is, however, truly
history (the acts I
took responsibility for occurred more than eleven
years ago.) I do regret
hurting people. So I did what I believed to be the
right thing - I took
responsibility for my actions by pleading guilty,
accepting a bar from the
securities industry, and paying into a fund to help
the investors I harmed.
I'm now 38, recently married (first for both of
us) and look forward to
having a family.
With this said, my company; LoanSaver.com exemplifies
my growing concern
and immediate need to "Educate &
Protect" the "Homeowners of America."
There is absolutely nothing to sell them; just
educational content hence, we
seek professional writers like yourselves. With this
said, I encourage you
all to see past Barrett's vitriolic drivel. I
hope "our" time in Life is
better spent than "trashing" others, while
referring to incidents that
occurred more than a decade ago. For what it's
worth, Barrett's email was
hurtful. I seek to hurt no one.
Ok, moving on. I have absolutely no experience in
knowing what the "proper
wages" are for professional writers such as
yourselves. I would encourage
any suggestion(s) that lends itself to accomplishing
each other's goals, as
the magnitude of this company will benefit 10's of
millions, and we're just
getting started.
Thank you all for your sincere consideration, as I am
humbled writing this
email.
Respectfully,
Rich
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*From:* Barrett Brown [mailto:barriticus@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:00 PM
*To:* Kyle Vonder Hulls
*Cc:* lerlanger@nyc.rr.com; ericnow@live.com;
eman6704@yahoo.com;
joseph.alexiou@gmail.com;
writers@masterpiecewriter.com;
doriamiyata@gmail.com; auguste319@yahoo.com;
jb.killa.poe@gmail.com;
joseph.leutz@earthlink.net; writer@well.com;
newyorkcitywriter@earthlink.net;
sharonmcelwee@yahoo.com;
travlinguy@hotmail.com; johnriddle@sprintmail.com;
maben14@hotmail.com;
skietzman@embarqmail.com; gina_gallagher@msn.com;
kentcurry@sbcglobal.net;
poeticaesthete@aol.com; jschreier@gmail.com;
markmy@earthlink.net;
jessicamousseau@gmail.com; imrachella@gmail.com;
aseybert@yahoo.com;
annie@anniebkay.com; bailey.mccann@gmail.com;
brian.oco1@verizon.net;
michaelgavin2004@yahoo.com; aaronland@nyc.rr.com;
dross.ross@yahoo.com;
kerri.linden@gmail.com; v13christensen@yahoo.com;
amarjerome@gmail.com;
brian_benjamin@yahoo.com; evangelistpenny@aol.com;
mingyang.liu@gmail.com;
citizenck@gmail.com; mintzword4@aol.com;
niceavila@yahoo.com;
lirisaredins@yahoo.ca; rich@loansaver.com;
harmon.katherine@gmail.com;
whereisbrittneyj@gmail.com; hfmbears@aol.com;
carlin.galietti@gmail.com;
createworks@mindspring.com; prof@doctor.cnc.net;
rv@charter.net;
sfgators96@yahoo.com; apps@aspenmerchantcapital.com
*Subject:* Re: Freelance Writers Needed
I guess everything's been covered. I would just
add that the guy who's
running the show per the NDA form has been barred from
going anywhere near a
brokerage firm or even a share of stock:
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/34-44266.htm
... and that he and his friends have a tendency to
skip out on civil
trials:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117758451.html?categoryid=1009&cs=1
... and also that their offices are located on that
same shitty block where
all the low-rent scam artists tend to congregate.
In fact, just Google "Rich Preisig" if you
want to kill twenty minutes.
Word,
Barrett Brown
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Kyle Vonder Hulls
<
kvhulls@aspenmerchantcapital.com> wrote:
Hey Guys,
Thank you all for responding to our ad for freelance
writers. We are
looking forward to launching a huge project and could
use the help from all
of you in this. The exact nature of this project must
remain confidential
until its ready for release, so I must have all of you
sign and return the
attached non-disclosure agreements before topics can
be assigned.
In an effort to save time, once you have returned the
NDA we will schedule
a conference call to disclose the nature of the
project, discuss topics,
discuss pay and to answer all your questions.
I know this may seem unusual, but given the scope of
this project, this is
how it must be done. We are looking to work with 50 -
100 writers on a
continuous basis.
Please print, sign and fax this agreement to (866) 847
- 0478.
Once faxed back, please email me your contact
information. I will verify
you have sent the Non-Disclosure Agreement and forward
you a schedule of
conference calls along with instructions on how to
join the calls.
I look forward to working with each of you.
*Kyle Vonder Hulls*
*
146 W. 29th St*
*Suite** 6E*
*New York**, NY 10001*
*Office: (800) 796-0136 ex. 105*
*Fax: (866) 847-0478*
*Email:
kvhulls@aspenmerchantcapital.com<lfilippazzo@aspenmerchantcapital.com>
*